Pleasing the Stripper

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arbeeguy
Some say the only thing the dancers want is our money, and that they scorn us as PLs or Perverts, etc. That may be partially true, but I know that some dancers, and I believe that MANY strippers, actually enjoy their interaction with a lot of their customers. So -- my question is, (based in part on what I just read on the thread concerning the VIP) what experiences have you all had that made you believe you had PLEASED THE STRIPPER with something beyond cash. Specific examples would be welcome. Let's go beyond the generalities of clean clothes, recent shower, courtesy, etc. Also, I am talking about "you as a customer and her as a paid supplier". Not talking about "relationships". I have a specific example for you but I'll save it until a few others have posted.

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shadowcat
16 years ago
I am the candy man. When I step up to the stage they know that I have $1.00 in my right hand but they are more interested in whats in my left hand. "the treat of the month".

While this is totally true, I don't think that this is what arbeeguy wants to hear. Dude I have so much personal information flowing from me to my friends(dancers) That I know that is not always about the money.

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motorhead
16 years ago
I know this is probably not exactly the kind of answer you are looking for, but my ATF is just really comfortable with me. She works nights at a club where a large majority of the guys are young (a large university is located there). She has been with her boyfriend for 10 years and is really committed to him, so she gets pretty tired of these young guys constantly asking her out on dates. They don't want to spend money on dances - they are just there to try and pick up hot women. I am not really an "extras" guy. If it happens, fine, but that's not why I go to strip clubs. She knows that, and sincerely appreciates the fact I don't pressure her for extras. She seems happy that the pressure is off of her not to have to beg for dances from stangers for at least one night and does not have to fend off the advances of the young guys.

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shadowcat
16 years ago
divid 120: I could not go 10 years with the same ATF and no sex. She is committed to him after 10 years. It doesn't sound like he is committed to her. This sounds like an ideal situation to cash in on. If you are into it.
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Clubber
16 years ago
Well, there was this one dancer that worked at Teasers in Key West, FL. I saw her on most every business trip I took to Key West. She always told me I made her feel special and that I never failed to get her off. Never with FS, but I know that every time she danced for me, the leg of my pants was very wet from her. I am pretty sure she never faked anything.
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jablake
16 years ago
FELICITY!!! :) @ Club Diamonds ----Golden Glades Exchange

I had a fantastic time with her it seemed like she just wanted to talk about books and more books. She had even been a customer of my former store.

When I finally got her in the VIP it was just dance after dance at $10 per dance. She also worked at the $5 hardcore Club Honeys and was stunned that I was a customer there, but we'd never met. I had problems with Club Honeys because it always seemed to be ringed by an army of police at ALL TIMES. I just didn't like crossing the police line because the reality is you can be arrested for having untied shoe laces or the wrong brand of cologne.

After 20 dances, I say you know I only have $200 and that is a lot of money to me. She is like you want to quit already?!?! I said does it feel like I want to quit? She could feel my hardness (with some women I'm soft or semi-hard---with her I was rock hard craving more) and laughs I didn't think so! She say you only have two more dances cause were at 18. I say that my count is 20 and she laughs and says let's call it 18. So now she is trying to get me off and I stop her and she is confused. She says you don't want to come? I say HELL NO!!! I want to have fun! Now, she seems even more into it now that she knows that I don't want to come. The two free dances are over now and I thank her for the free dances. She says you're not leaving just because of money are you? I say unfortunately that I never spend even a $100, but that she was just wonderful. She says well maybe we can keep going . . . so she does a signal to the DJ to bypass her (she gets fined for this I later learned). She gives me another 10 free dances at and my heart is racing and so is hers and it is just a perfect evening. I still haven't come, which ain't a problem at all. She apologizes and says she really has to get back to work.

I save my money and see her again and again she is into talking more than asking for dances, but I'm more eager to get dances and I tell her so. But, I'm on a $100 budget and just want to get 10 because she has already given me too many free dances and has been way too kind. She says that it has to be 11 dances just cause she wants to throw in at least one freebie. I'm having a fantastic time with her and she is wonderful, but it is a performance. A performance worth paying for DEFINITELY, but I want if possible that raw heat back. Afterwards, I tell her she was fantastic----but, that she was acting. She says those were damn good dances and you could tell!?!? I say they were FANTASTIC, and I'm thrilled but I really want the dances she gave the first time. She says oh NO. :( She says her boyfriend was mistreating her and she felt free to let herself go that night. I say break up with the damn boyfriend or get mad with him! She laughs and says sorry those were really special dances that she can't sell when her boyfriend is treating her right. I'm dejected. She says I'll let you know in the future if I can sell the type dance you want. I say that would be EXCELLENT! :) And, we left on good terms.

I keep going to the club and it is always NO, NO, NO, NO or much more likely she just ignores me. Finally, out of nowhere she approaches me and says that good dances are available if I'm still interested. I'm THRILLED, but then complain I only have a $100 and would like get at least 20 dances. She laughs and says that I really want 20 dances?! I say I want a hell of a lot more than that, but usually I pay $5 at Angels. She says you think I'm only worth $5!? I say HELL NO, but I need at least 20 dances and only have $100. I didn't know you'd be available because either you say NO or just avoid me. She says $5 per dance in the VIP room will be just fine. :) She ended up doing something like 30 dances or more for $100 and again made my evening. It was just heaven. :) She reminds me that she can't sell the special dances unless she is having boyfriend problems. I say kill the damn boyfriend if necessary!!! She just laughs and shakes her head. She also said she'd like to give me her phone number, but it wouldn't be right as long as she still has a boyfriend. She says if he and I breakup, I hope you will take the opportunity. It was so sweet.

I go back and of course it is NO, NO, NO, or she just ignores me.

Anyway, TOO LATE I learn that for the VIP ALL the dances are counted and the dancers are charged $5 per song! :( Felicity has been taking a financial beating with me and I didn't even know it. The manager who I was very friendly with says to me that Felicity doesn't need my money even a little bit. That the high rollers come in for her especially and that she is just a class act. He says if Felicity really wanted money from you, you know it. And, that Felicity can take care of Felicity. I say that I want to pay her the money back and he just laughs and says she is too nice a person for that. He says that she is just one in million.

I never saw Felicity again. :( I wanted to make things financially right between us. I still would love to settle the debt that I owe her-----so if she is reading this and is in Miami!!! :)



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driver01
16 years ago
Ok, I'm sure it's just me but I am less interested in how I am pleasing the dancer and more interested in how she may please me. Something about being the customer...

I continue to be amazed at the amount of time spent here talking about the obvious. The question of knowing if one has "pleased a stripper with something beyond cash" is a universal one applicable to any and all relationships predicated and/or continued based on a financial consideration. I pleased my doctor by dropping the 10 extra pounds he asked me to on my last visit. I pleased my lawyer by insisting on a prenup with my fiance. I pleased my real estate agent by painting my house prior to putting it on the market. I pleased my secretary by closing my office door so that I could not overhear her personal phone calls thus causing me to give her shit about spending too much time on personal phone calls.

Pleasing a stripper with something beyond cash is no more difficult than pleasing anyone else you have a business or pseudo-business relationship with. I suspect that for some here( though certainly not all) the best non-monetary gift you could give a stripper is to get a life that involves more than dreaming up non-monetary ways to make a stripper happy...

Gotta go, I'm writing a poem for my favorite stripper entitled-"How do I make you happy with things other than cash-- let me count the ways"...lol
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Dudester
16 years ago
I like to dine at the Y, and some let me do that. I know it takes about twenty to thirty minutes to get the dancer where she is panting and convulsing in orgasm. These are the ones who usually give me a discount, because I saw to their pleasure first. There have been a few that pretended to have an orgasm after only a minute-these tick me off (I hate false sincerity).

My former ATF loved my pussy eating skills, which is part of why our in room sessions went 2-2.5 hours. My present ATF likes my Y skills, but cuts me off just before she goes full tilt. She says she's a screamer and doesn't want to announce to the club what she's up to.
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BobbyI
16 years ago
driver: " I suspect that for some here( though certainly not all) the best non-monetary gift you could give a stripper is to get a life that involves more than dreaming up non-monetary ways to make a stripper happy... "

Some don't care, but I think you are right: Many strippers would like to see customers gain better skills with women, and in the case of weak ones become more "manly". Then pay a visit back when you are in a happy LTR and say that you enjoyed your time with her but moved onto to important things. (And like all women, they like to give out insights to help relationships.)
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njscfan
16 years ago
Arbeeguy

Well, the girl I took on my business trip clearly enjoyed it. It was a paid holiday for her, she got to go to a major destination (where she had never been). During the trip she was plainly having a good time, and has since asked to go on another trip we are thinking about planning.
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jablake
16 years ago
With Felicity, I think it was a combination of excellent luck----I was the right person at the right time. The club was dead at first and became packed MUCH later. I was tipping her on stage and she appreciated that because usually there was only tipping after the club filled with customers. Poorly dressed, I think also helped along with the very real sense that I was low budget----so there was NO getting her hopes raised for making good $$$, iows. She wanted to TALK TALK TALK and I liked to listen and besides we had a very strong common interest in books and had crossed paths without ever meeting. She was also very sharp, which seemed to create a sense of closeness. Not wanting to come at the end also really got her interested or so it seemed.

The free dances? Even without all the free dances, I felt like I was getting a steal at twice my normal cost of $5 per dance. She was just getting so hot and if she could fake that then I needed a lot more.

Wealthier buddies who often enjoy stripclubs will sneer at my getting free dances and etc. because they don't get the same treatment. And, it could be very real that a dancer may actually think they're heaven on earth, but it doesn't translate into discounts or free which is how these gentlemen define being liked. It is so absurd, if they would just think about it for a few moments. Here they come in and money has a low value because they have money----dancer recognizes this and doesn't even think of showing her interest or appreciation with discounts because SUCCESS is screaming from every stitch of their being. In fact, the dancer is inexpensive in their opinion. So a customer views you as inexpensive and has a ton of money and discounting yourself is a good strategy? Fact is lower income customers get treated differently---sometimes for the good and sometimes for the bad.

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jablake
16 years ago

Oh, I wanted to see her at Club Honeys because I explained that I was really a $5 customer. She is shaking her head NO NO NO!!! I say other customers get $5 dances from you so what is the problem with me getting $5 dances? She laughs and says the $5 is fine and she would even give me some free dances, but there is NO WAY that she ever wants to see me going to Club Honeys. She says there is good reason that club is ringed by police and she can't imagine that I'd ever go there for any reason. She said she didn't mean any disrespect, but the dancers and customers were extremely tough and it wasn't a safe environment for a nice guy----uh, oh the dreaded nice guy label! I protested and say I sure as hell ain't a nice guy even a little bit. Now she bends over laughing so hard and finally says it is OK that she doesn't have any problem with nice guys and can even be attracted to them. :)

What a super lady. :)

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chandler
16 years ago
Countless screenfuls of threads on this site have been devoted to customers' yearning for some definitive proof that they are "more than a customer" to dancers. Despite the original poster's stipulation, I'm sure that's what some take this to be. I've never had a problem with being a "good customer" and nothing more. I assume that being that includes pleasing her with something more than cash. However, isn't it a given that we can never know specifically which things - our company, our caresses, etc. - give her real pleasure and which are her good acting?
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jablake
16 years ago

Being a "good customer" and nothing more is fine as long as I'm getting the fantasy of the GFE. I'm trying to buy a quality product as well as service. One of the best GFE providers that I enjoyed didn't like me, or other dancers, or anyone from best that I could tell. She was skilled and had no problem pretending the GFE role. It was just a job and if a customer fell in love and got hurt so much the better. I had nice dancers trying to "protect" me from her and it was like I've got eyes, but she is special. She can do her job without liking me even a little.
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arbeeguy
16 years ago
When I wrote the original post I promised to describe the incident that caused me to write it. Here is what happened. I met a really hot dancer in a club that is famous for having mediocre dancers with strict limits on where you can touch. This dancer made it clear that no such limits would apply when we went to the VIP. So as soon as we got back there, I shoved my hand down the front of her thong. She said, "Oh I have a great idea - how would you like to stick your finger up my asshole?" No dancer has ever requested this before. I was happy to oblige. While I was massaging her colon, she was massaging her clit with plenty of spit. Pretty soon she was cumming like crazy, and just as happy as could be. Later she couldn't stop thanking me, and told me she had NEVER asked anybody to do that before, and didn't even understand for sure why she asked me to do it, but she really loved the outcome. So I was happy I had pleased her in this way, even tho I did not cum myself. Somehow this seems distinctly different from putting a fresh coat of paint on my house to please my realtor.

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Clubber
16 years ago
arbeeguy,

Along those lines, one time, I did have a dancer tell me and some friends that no one danced in "her" club unless she had had her finger in her asshole.
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shadowcat
16 years ago
Last month After a nice BBBJ from her we got into a discussion about butt fucking. Jenna Haze had been the featured dancer the week before. I remarked that she was one of my favorite porn queens until she she got into butt fucking. She remarked that she had only done it twice with her boyfriend. Just to please him and was glad that he didn't push it because she did not really engoy it. She always sticks her pussy in my face to kiss but never her ass. Isn't that really for fagots any way?
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BobbyI
16 years ago
All straight guys here who like to fuck women in the ass raise their hands! *hand raise*
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parodyman-->
16 years ago
Hard to believe but I’m not ripping on this post because of its author. The following stands on its own merits as one of the most moronic and derogatory posts I’ve read here. Though it is short this little gem of Shadowcat wisdom is charged with hate.

“Last month After a nice BBBJ from her we got into a discussion about butt fucking. Jenna Haze had been the featured dancer the week before. I remarked that she was one of my favorite porn queens until she she got into butt fucking. She remarked that she had only done it twice with her boyfriend. Just to please him and was glad that he didn't push it because she did not really engoy it. She always sticks her pussy in my face to kiss but never her ass. Isn't that really for fagots any way?”

I’ll make the assumption that this misspelled conversation took place with one of your regular dancers. The fact that you do not find anal sex arousing is no big deal. I’m sure many people don’t. But then again you do protest too much. Why do you continue to dwell on it? This is a recurring theme for you. I suspect all this big talk about all the paid for sex in and out of the club is a big smoke screen. You are a closeted homosexual. You must fantasize day and night about gagging on one dude’s cock while another is packing your fudge. It’s OK. This is 2009 not 1950. People of all sexual orientations are tolerated.

This is probably why your marriage failed. If only you could have got her to use a strap-on on you. You’d be sore but still married. Anyway, don’t be ashamed of who you are. Get yourself a rainbow t-shirt and be proud.
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harrison
16 years ago
I was in Harpers in Winston Salem NC early one evening when I got a private dance from a really cute hot little dancer. We went into the private room, which was really only semi private..This is not a classy club but I love it.

Anyway, often when I get into the room and we have time before the dance starts I will offer a short and sentual shoulder massage. Most girls really seem to like this, and some are really tense and appreciate it. You can imagine that what these girls do can build some tension.

This girl loved it. I started with her shoulders and back and neck and was gentle and soft. I offered to be harder on some tough muscles, but she wanted soft, OK by me !! When the song ended she was getting relaxed and asked If I minded continuing, and I sure did not. Another song or two and I was rubbing her tits, arms, legs, sides, back, all over. After about 4 or 5 songs she had to go back to the stage to dance but asked if I minded waiting for her, that I still had promised her two pay dances. Wow, I waited..
When her 3 song set ended she came back to the room, fully nude! Hot dog, I started working on her again and she eventually flipped over on her back and there was this hot number laid out naked across my lap, legs open. I got her legs and thighs, everytime I got to close to the goods she would stop me, but she wanted to keep going with the massage. This probably went on for 10 songs until she gave me my two dances and went back to work.

Wow, I still think about this.

One note, somewhere on this site I saw that it was good etiquette to offer a massage, and that is where the idea came from. TUSCL gave me quite an experience !
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David9999
16 years ago
Personally I get very little out of any experience (at any level) with any stripper, unless there is some element of mutuality to the interaction. Unless a particular woman is an extraordinarily good actress, a reasonably perceptive man can read it all in a women's eyes - that's why I always try to position them in such a way (at least at some angle) where I can read those eyes.

As I said before there's a 10% group of strippers (in terms of the way I judge women) - that are basically normal women in a very odd profession, and when you get positive interaction with them, its very hard to put a precise value on this.

If this 10% group wasn't there, I would probably not bother with strip clubs at all.

By the way when dealing with (particularly) very young, and also very attractive dancers, I don't pay particular attention to what they verbally say, especially when its fueled (on their part) by champagne in at VIP room situation. Its reading between the lines where the real satisfaction, if at all, actually happens.
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jablake
16 years ago

Most of the dancers that I meet at the black clubs won't do eye contact. It is a real treat when have a hottie that will make good eye contact.

White dancers, ime, overwhelmingly didn't mind lots of eye contact with me----a HUGE plus in my eyes.

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DandyDan
16 years ago
I don't go out of my way to do it, but its always nice when it happens. I think one sure way to know they are pleased is if they are sharing more than lapdances with you. One of my favorites always shares her gum with me. I don't know if she would do that if I were just another customer.
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