Obesity is not attractive

Lizzo is female???

Sometimes a younger fit big girl with lots of butt and big titties can be attractive to me

just curious: do y'all consider this one to be obese?

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if a mild extras club has 12 girls on shift i would be more than happy if that club had just one that looks like that girl. if 1 or 2 more that will end my club search for good.

^no that’s perfect. Thats slim thick. Dont mind if i take a screenshot

Agree with op, have to disagree with ratt and the follow up comments. She's not obese but she's definitely heftier than what I like, I pass on chicks like her.

I'm not interested in her BMI. If somebody looks like a couch potato, that´s not appealing. Some tummy, or jiggliness in the upper arms, or a round babyface are all fine.

Muscular guys are often technically obese, even when they have a lower body fat percentage than average.

Ratt oh no that is the good stuff right there

Yeah it’s scary I see a lot of young women (under 25) that are what would be considered obese. I worry about all the health problems they will have down the road. I see young men too but many more women.

Maybe we run in different circles, but i think the kim kardashian era stopped about a year ago. Most girls want to be slim thick. Of course there will be room for lack of a better word for thick girls on social media and porn but a lot of the women i see are slimming down

NO FATTIES. not even chubbies.

Women want to say that Lizzo is soooo beautiful, but tell that same woman that she looks like Lizzo and see what happens.

Ratt not ever, even a no shit faced. In the seventies she'd be considered obese. Still my standard.

Obesity/fatness isnt caused solely by calories but a whole bunch of things. Even tin cans used for canned foods or drinks have a thin plastic liner inside them which leaches into the food, making you fat if you eat that product, and the more acidic the food product the more leeches into it.

Omega 3/6 oils, most nut and seed fats are far more fattening than olive oil, coconut oil, beef fat etc.

You have vaccines and a bunch of pharma drugs making people fatter, without consuming more calories. Anything that boosts serotonin or cortisol or estrogen = significant weight gain without eating more.

Most of the drugs that would make people burn fat are legally restricted or banned.

I’ve always been mildly attracted to thicker women. I’d take a slightly overweight Amy Adams or Kate Upton over some anorexic skeleton any day of the week.

So I went to a BBW night at a strip club thinking there might be a lot of dancers to my likening. What a mistake. They were all grotesquely obese. Even for my tastes.

If their ass is bigger than mine, I'm not interested.

That girl in the screenshot is way too big for my tastes. I wouldn't want to see her on stage at a strip club, and wouldn't buy dances for sure. I wouldn't call her obese, but clinically she might be. I'm guessing those thighs are probably largely fat, which would push her BMI over 30.

Also: tuscl.net

The body positivity movement is all about money. There's a lot of money in treating the illnesses that come along with being obese.

I don’t understand, the girls ass is generally supposed to be larger than the guys.

I totally agree with what Dolfan said. Based on the pics he posted in the other thread and his comments about them, he and I have similar tastes in body type.

I like a nice round shapely ass. I can't stand the currently popular enormous ass look. I can't for the life of me understand how fat cellulite dimpled monster asses have become popular. These would be my preferences.

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Naw ilbbaicnl, that’s too much ass.

I like slim women. I’m not interested in “thick” “big booty” or whatever euphemism you come up with.

But to each his own

@rattdog she's likely fatter than I desire. I'm guessing that's the best angle pic she could get after multiple retakes. Her shirt is loose fitting. Probably a belly bigger than mine under there.

@dolfan agree the pics in the other post you linked are waaaayyyyy too big.

^cool. what you don't desire i treasure. a girl like that with her hardware has the potential to make me cause a condom to explode with a real loud boom.

More for me Lurker.

^ Lulz dougie, bout the only difference between fat and your thick version is the thick one has a smaller belly, just admit you like fat broads loser!

"Thick" Uh nah bro. She's crossed over from thick to fat about 10 pounds ago. Compare that with the 4th post from rat and you can see that this girl doesn't know what the inside of a gym looks like. EVERYthing is thick on her: thighs, ass, waist, face, arms, hands, hell even her fingers are fat bro. Just one big butterball.

But I did bang a girl who was heavier than I prefer a few months back. When she was in mish I could see she had about 2-3 fat rolls around her belly. Normally not my thing but had been a while since I had slapped around some natural DD's and that's what came with the package in this case, plus she was sexy. When she was in doggy she looked so damn good, had both hands more than full of pure ass.

^ roll her in flour fuck and the wet spot

Thick and obese are two different things and it is mainly determined in how the weight is distributed. "Thick" girls have ass and thighs but are still slim or average in the waist. Women who carry a lot of weight in their waist are disqualified from being able to be considered "thick," and instead are just fat and/or obese. Being fat is unhealthy and leads to a plethora of health problems, and your waist usually a good indication of how healthy your weight is.

The Kardashians really drove insane beauty standards, of course with their obvious abundant cosmetic surgeries to completely alter their bodies without bothering to exercise or do anything to make it look natural; along with that, they heavily edit any photos they post. That's why it might be surprising to see a photo from 2018 or so of Kim K out in the wild without a heads-up from paparazzi because she looks very short and fat. Like that episode South Park did about her. I cringed when I saw her try to stuff her disgusting fat fake ass into MARILYN MONROE's iconic dress. Monroe, whose waist was 22-23 inches for most of her career making her way smaller than the average woman today despite the false claims that Monroe was a big woman, which is just a myth someone created to make fat girls feel better about themselves. Was Marilyn curvy? Yes. Fat? Far from it. Kim K could not fit her fat body into that dress and chose to wear it anyway, destroying it.

I'm glad that the BBL craze that the Kardashians propelled into popularity is dying down. BBLs are dangerous, anyone getting one is risking their lives to make themselves look fatter to follow a trend that will die down as trends do. Now, the BBL look is out of style and being thin is back in.

However, because society is so obsessed with what a woman must look like, and a lot of women pay attention to that, the pendulum has swung so far in the other direction that women are taking Ozempic as a diet pill. It looks horrible on most women as they just lose their muscle mass and their skin looks all shrunken and hollow and old.

With all of this scientific info available, it's kind of sad that there are so many extremes instead of women choosing to just... be healthy. Eat a normal, healthy amount of calories. Or if you want to lose weight, go on a CALORIE DEFICIT diet and workout a few days a week. Cut the alcohol down, it's empty calories at best. Or if you want an ass? Put in the work instead of paying for a dangerous surgery that looks bad on almost everyone. Up your caloric intake, eat carbs and protein, and do tons of resistance training and especially focus on squats, gluten bridges, Romanian deadlifts. Not every weight issue should be "fixed" with either a BBL or Ozempic. Healthy weight loss and healthy weight gains both start in the kitchen and the gym.

Twiggy was the first size 0 and Marilyn Monroe was a size 9. 1970s sizes, not the fake sizes if today. Marilyn Monroe wasn't close to fat and would be a size 4-5 now.

I don’t find Lizzo attractive but I think her message is good. I’d rather be surrounded by confident people comfortable in their own skin. I don’t need to date them.

I’ve been going to strip clubs for probably 35 years - 20-30 years ago most dancers were somewhat fit to very fit- some were average- very few were overweight - today it seems fit dancers are less common and overweight more common - which probably is consistent with overall societal trends

In the year 2000 West Virginia had the highest obesity rate at 23.9% of the population - nearly 20 years later in 2019 Colorado had the lowest rate at 23.8% -

Lizzo was so "confident and comfortable" that she lost a ton of weight. Of course, those who hopped on the fat train and didn't get the memo that she had hopped off were upset that she is healthier and better looking.

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If she wants to be 1000 pounds, go for it, it's not my body or my life. And a statistically significant large percentage of people stupid enough to be okay with looking like that will be darwin'd right out of existence anyway. I'm all about personal freedom as long as someone else's doesn't interfere with mine or cause harm to another.

I can't say obesity is attractive, at least in a way people would universally find attractive. But my experience is that bigger girls fuck better.

When your homie tells you there’s a ton of women at the club, but when you get there you see this.

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No obesity is not attractive and neither are any of its synonyms: thick, curvy, plus-sized etc.

Not only is it unattractive but it is extremely unhealthy. The universal truth is calories in vs. calories burned. If you want to lose weight, eat less. And the genetic truth does exist when it comes to metabolism. Some people have a slower metabolism than others. You know what that means? It means your body is more efficient and you need LESS calories than the normal size person standing next to you so eat even LESS.

Or not. Up to you but don’t lie about it. Everyone knows the truth anyway so there is no need.

@puddy

That’s not what she said, but that’s what you heard? So if you put “you have to love yourself before you can love other people” into Translate what you hear is “That diabetes, sleep apnea, arthritis, hypertension, liver disease are OK because you're comfortable in your own skin?”

That’s pretty fucked up that Google Translate from English-> puddy tat is so broken. I guess I just don’t hate people for saying things that don’t impact me, especially when they are always positive.

is there a lot of course study required to be a licensed dietician? this could be a booming business.

bread...a lot of ingredients to bake bread in this country are actually banned in many other countries. it might be safe to assume that the pasta manufactured here is not as healthy as elsewhere. eat a loaf of bread or a large plate of pasta everyday here you'll morph into the pillsbury doughboy. elsewhere odds are you still might remain unchanged.

i do luv my pawgs and slightly porky pig girls. however there are lines i do not cross.

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if i walk into a club and all i saw was nothing but girls that look like the 3 above do not ask me why i have a real pissed off look on my face.

This is my preferred look: thegetawaylounge.net

Puddy, you sound like a liberal with that last post.

There’s very little mystery about weight loss and gain, there’s absolutely nothing you can do about what someone else does. If shaming someone makes you feel better about yourself it really says more about you as a person then anything you say to them. If hefty folks don’t want to hear your opinion, that’s their right. It’s not like they don’t know the health benefits or detriments, so my take is simple, im not attracted to plus size women, that’s my right, but I have no interest in being obnoxious. If asked I’ll offer advice and even tell them my opinion and explain how I dealt with my own weight issues, other than that that’s all I care to say.

"eat a loaf of bread or a large plate of pasta everyday here you'll morph into the pillsbury doughboy."

Actually if you're trying to gain a healthy but shapely body (ie develop a nice round ass), carbs are going to be your best buddy along the way if you pair it with proper exercise which in that case would be resistance/weight training to build muscle. Carbs fuel your body and prevent muscle loss and help with muscle recovery, so if someone is trying to gain muscle they're going to want to have carbs. Obviously if someone wants to lose weight, carbs should not be a large part of a diet. But there are instances where people might actually want to eat carbs to achieve the physique they want. What do you think bodybuilders eat?

Regarding Lizzo, her message was body positivity. She's not wrong. Shaming her for losing weight makes absolutely no sense. I'm pretty sure she stated clearly that she lost weight for her health. You can be inclusive of various body types while still acknowledging that you want to be a healthier person.

I mean…most people would prefer not to be overweight, it just we have such plentiful, relatively cheap, fattening food and most of us don’t need to physically work hard or burn many calories. Who knows ? If GLP-1s like Ozempic become cheap and available to everyone, that may help. But usually there’s no “free lunch”. Diet and exercise are available to everyone.

There's no shortage of attractive stripper aged women in this country. If the clubs are having trouble recruiting them, then it is a problem with the industry.

A few points: 1) I have the same exact taste in women as Blah, meaning exceptional taste; 2) every business in this country is having an issue hiring qualified, hard-working people, so stripping is mainstream in that issue; 3) 3 of my friends did Ozempic and lost 50 pounds. They went from fat and young looking to thinner and wicked old looking because the rapid weight loss gave them "Ozempic face"; 4) body builders want to build muscle so they consume massive amoints of protein, not carbs other than veggies and some fruits; 5) Losing weight is like anything else; it takes effort, but dieting is inane imo and Ozempic means you're on drugs for the rest of your life, assuming you're not one of the 50% who return to obesity.

^Today, I stopped at a coffee shop which is very popular with coeds from a local state university for coffee and to check the scenery. I was surprised to see many coeds who were fit and trim, with normal color hair and no tattoos, although some did have nose and brow piercings. Young attractive fit and trim women are definitely out there.

The nice thing about being in socal is the core stripper demographic isn't getting fatter. Women 25+ or especially 30+, sure, especially after having kids.

Some dancers won't remove articles of clothing if the tips are not flowing. So, maybe that needs to be a rule. Minimum amount of $ on the stage before the stripper starts stripping. If you're right that nobody like the appearance of certain strippers, it won't be any worse than seeing them at the beach.

"body builders want to build muscle so they consume massive amoints of protein, not carbs other than veggies and some fruits"

That might have been the case decades ago when you were younger, and protein is obviously important for building, but nowadays people who are gaining muscle are generally eating carbs. It helps build muscle. It also converts to glycogen which helps power workouts because it stores energy in the muscle therefore fueling your workout. So yeah, carbs are a part of the diet of people who lift. If a girl gets a personal trainer because she wants a bigger ass and thicker thighs, her personal trainer is not going to tell her to cut out the carbs.

That is not true regarding bodybuilders at all. They cut carbs only when theyre cutting weight for competitions, but even then, they’re actually consuming a ton of calories/carbs. The more muscular they are the more they can afford to eat. When off season they eat high on everything, but the primary food source is still carbs. Their macros are like 400g+ protein, 100-200g fats, 600+ carbs. Some may do a bit more carbs or a bit more fat instead.

Also when you dont eat carbs the body converts protein you eat into sugars. Thats why a high protein diet can offset some of the dangers or issues with an extremely low carb diet. If you dont eat enough protein though, the body starts wasting its own muscle tissue or even hair and other organs to convert them to sugars.

Contrarily, the more carbs you eat, the lower you can go on proteins since you prevent the body from converting any eaten protein into sugars. Thats why animals like gorillas, chimps, bears etc can build muscle without needing to eat meat. Its also how some vegan bodybuilders and poor people can manage to build muscle off things like rice and potatoes.

Most of the bodybuilders are eating carb heavy diets, the ones who arent, have to go extremely high on protein and even then they usually have energy issues from it.

^Yes, I know. I'm the one who brought up body builders in the first place as an example of people who eat carbs and are fit. Skibum decided to counter that by saying body builders don't eat carbs. That simply is not true.

can we define obesity please becaue i feel like everyone's standards on this website are vastly different.

Ironically, those 20ish slim chicks, very likely have some thicker friends. When they see comments like these, they think, hell no, I couldn't put up with those nasty assholes, no matter how good the money.

Michael phelps supposedly had the 10k or 12k daily calorie diet. Most of the calories are from carbs. When anyone is consuming that many calories, whether bodybuilder or other athlete, its just not physically impossible to eat, 5000 calories of fiber or protein. The calories have to come from sugars/starches with some fat as a dressing.

Of course a lot of these athletes are using drugs that also help with burning more calories. Even with natural bodybuilders, they are eating carbs year round. Also theres plenty of ripped football and basketball players who are eating carbs.

Yup. There's even a term for these athletes and body builders' consumption of carbs, especially for a specific event or competition: "carbing up," or "carbing" or whatever you want to call it.

It seems many on here admit if they are fat icey, and there’s no issue with a fat person pointing out someone elses fatness. You’re talking about slinging insults, yes then it’s hypocritical for a fat guy to insult a fat woman. Just describing someone as fat isnt an insult

How fit are we? 11 mile hike with 4,000 vertical feet of climbing yesterday, Icey, while you ate potato chips and watched obese women videos. Amazing that neither of us needed to carb load like a body builder lol.

Well simply eating carbs and carb loading are two different things. But still, it would actually be recommended that you eat some carbs before an 11 mile hike. If you don't eat enough carbs, your body will burn stored muscle protein. A nice balance of carbs, protein, and healthy fat would be ideal, but carbs are easier for your body to process than protein and fat. But hey, whatever floats your boat and spikes your hike.

"^ How many of the fat people on this thread are being paid, directly or indirectly, on the basis of their appearance?"

I don't know, but there is a market for BBW when it comes to online sex work (Only Fans and other camming). I've know women who were far too large to get hired at the clubs I worked at, but they were banking online. This was years ago. As I've said, being thin and generally healthy looking is back in style and that stupid, dangerous BBL shit is going out of style (although there is still and always will be a niche market for bigger girls, and I'm talking fat/obese, not "thick"). The pendulum always swings. That is why Ozempic-like drugs are so popular, but it still looks bad and comes with a multitude of jealth risks. Instead of extremes, again, people should be doing it the healthy way. Weight-loss starts in the kitchen and obviously exercise is important too.

^well-said. I have battled weight problems since I went into a boys husky at age 9. One of the few people who has pants and shorts ranging in waist size from 31" - 40" in the same pants drawer. As bad as it is for us, I yo-yo with weight constantly. Lost 25 pounds during the pandemic lockdown. Once the pandemic ended, I put on 40. Now I've dropped 35+ in the last 10 months, but for the first time ever I am not focusing on the scale or the number of times at the gym. Weighed myself 3x at the doc's and no longer keep a workout log book. Feel great and am curious to see where I end up on the scale. Eat right, eat less, no processed food and exercise. Food is the key to losing weight and exercise to maintaining it.

Lizzo was about her music. We fixate on her body cause we're too old for her music. People didn't use to rant that Meatloaf should be pulled for an FWS (Fat While Singing), nor claim his signing was all about fat guy body positivity. I remember how Aretha Franklin and Chaka Khan kept dressing sexy, even when they were hard into the cougar zone (to put it politely). Should they and Lizzo have been like Sister Rosetta Tharpe, who dressed for Gospel even as she paved the way for Chuck Berry?

We live in Youtube world now. You can still be one of a crew of thousands, making soap operas with dragons as chewing gum for the eyes of millions. Or use your phone to make content that a few hundred thousand people really love. But that most other people would rather not see. Strip clubs are just reflecting that new reality.

I think the crazier, unnatural butt jobs will be remember like the huge breast implants of the 90s. The intensity initially overwhelms, but that wears off, and you realize it's acutally pretty ew.

When I'm referencing Ozempic I'm talking about the same thing I mean when I said the pendulum has swung back. The BBL was an extreme trend and now Ozempic-thin is the extreme trend. It's not the people taking it for better health, it's the people abusing it to the point of being extremely thin with a hollow face and almost no muscle mass. They don't look healthy, and they don't eat.

^what side effects did you get from ozempic?

Theres a few tricks you can use to support weight loss without needing to make drastic changes.

One thing is cutting out pasta, bread and wheat as much as you can. It has pesticides and also is just harder to break down, causes more inflammation.

Within carb sources, try to stick to sugars, whether honey, cane sugar, fruit juices/fruit sugars, dried fruits, milk sugar, etc.

As far as fats, try to cut down on the omega 6/3 fats, all nuts and seeds and only get them from sources like ghee, butter , olive oil, beef fat, duck fat.. coconut oil.. possibly cocoa butter and avocado oil

As far as seafood, it might be better to cut that out entirely, due to ocean pollution.

Aa far as eating out, its probably better to get bread like a sandwich, sub, or burger, than rice or even pasta. Ive noticed that rice or pasta dishes use a ton of oil. The rice at chipotle, cava, any kabob place etc is dripping in grease. And restaurants will always be driven to cut costs, using the cheapest oil they can get. Usually that means its soybean, ricebran, corn, cottonseed, canola etc

Theres a couple brands that make extra virgin olive oil potato chips, and also a few that have avocado oil chips or coconut oil plantain/banana chips. Those are safer replacements for french fries and the usual potato chips

Why can't people just starve themselves old school? en.wikipedia.org . I guess you don't need needles for Ozempic.

I believe it's the case that, although it's technically a sugar, your body cannot convert alcohol to fat. So, distilled liquor, with little or no non-alcohol carbs, won't cause weight gain. Especially if you consume it by soaking ass tampons in it, like rickthelion.

Well it will cause weight gain if it's consumed regularly or in excess because it's just empty calories. A standard shot of liquor (1.5oz) usually has around 100 calories, varying a little depending on the type of liquor it is. So the calories alone are bad for weight loss.

"We fixate on her body cause we're too old for her music. People didn't use to rant that Meatloaf should be pulled for an FWS (Fat While Singing), "

Speak for yourself. We fixate on her body because it was plastered everywhere (magazines, etc.) often wearing very little clothing, and we were told by idiots everywhere that if we didn't celebrate it, something was wrong with us.

I don't think meat loaf ever wore a skimpy outfit and twerked on stage. If he had, I can guarantee the conversation would have been had. Nobody wants to see that shit either.

While alcohol is technically a carb, the body can't break it down into glucose: niaaa.nih.gov . So it can't contribute to weight gain.

It is not the carbs, it's the amount of calories that make consumption of alcohol bad for weight loss. Calories make people gain weight. An alcoholic beverage usually has 100+ calories, sometimes much more depending on the drink. Tito's marketed itself as a "lower calorie" vodka and a standard shot of that still has 98 calories.

A calorie is a measure of energy something can produce. Wood can produce energy (heat), but, if you can't start a fire, you can't get the energy. Likewise, the calories in some carbs can't be converted to energy, and can't be converted to glucose or fatty acids. Alcohol and fiber that isn't absorbed through the intestines are examples.

Yeah, and beer drinkers don’t have beer bellies. Science.

Alcohol is weird in that with many people, it makes them fat. For a smaller minority it makes them thin. Did that to my brother. Took him a long time to drink himself to death, but hey he was thin. Alcohol makes you fat for 3 reasons: 1) calories. The idea alcohol calroies don't make you fat is insane. Add in soda, cream etc. and you have some drinks that are calories time bombs. 2) People make stupid food decisions when drinking. Think pu pu platter instead of salad. 3) This is how I learned. Wife won a bet with me and I abstained from alcohol for two months. Never lost more weight in any 2 month period in my entire life. I also attribute it to simply going out less, because I only drink when I am out and never at home unless we're hosting an adult pool party.

ilbbaicnl - forget the carbs. Pure liquor has no carbs anyway unless they add sugars after the distillation process. Still, a shot of liquor has about 100 calories or so. CALORIES, not carbs. We have forgotten about carbs and left them out of the conversation for now. While alcohol is a toxin that the body prioritizes breaking it down, it also converts in fat which your body will then store. And if you're eating while drinking, that's even worse as the body will prioritize the alcohol and not the food. Alcohol converting to fats causes fat accumulation in the organs. This is why, like Hank Moody mentioned, "beer bellies" exist (and they're not just from beer, any ethanol consumption will do this over time and when people hit middle age it is more prevalent because of hormones and other factors).

Why do you think Fatty Liver Disease is a health risk for heavy drinkers?

People who drink regularly and then cut alcohol out of their diets generally lose weight, assuming they don't replace the calories in alcohol with something else. Because they are consuming a couple hundred less calories a day, or even more than that if they are heavy drinkers.

Weight loss: Eat less; No fast food; No processed food; cut alcohol consumption by 50-75%; Eat a lot more vegetables and a lot see simple carbs; go to the gym.

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Ilbaicln i think youre referring to sugar alcohols like xlytol and other similar compounds. There are some sugar alcohols that i think they dont count calorically because you basically poop them out. Im not sure it applies to all alcohols. The other thing to consider is those sugar alcohols are used in very small amounts in things like sugar free gum, maybe some protein powders or sugar free snacks so you may not be consuming enough to get any noticeable weight gain. The other thing to consider is that calories is only one part of the equation, the other equation is metabolism which is how many calories you burn at rest. And theres drugs that have 0 calories yet can cause weight gain because of how they affect hormones or metabolism. Theres also drugs that can do the reverse, make you burn more calories without actually exercising or building muscle. Caffeine for instance, and cocaine, other stimulants, a lot of times make you burn more calories depending on the dose.