Most of us are familiar with The Dancing Bear porn series, where a dude in a bear costume shows up at a ladies-night-only event, the guy unmasks himself from his bear costume walks around the room and ladies suck him off--all on camera.
Well what if your favorite SC captured the in-house horseplay like this too, but posted it solely on their website where once in awhile it'd get leaked to Twitter, Pornhub, etc. Would you care that you can be seen in the background? Would you care?
I wouldn't be in the background, because I wouldn't hang out to watch some random guy get blowjobs.
No, I definitely do not want to be in the background on anything shared on social media at a SC.
But @Ishmael, how is watching a random dude getting a blowjob live different from watching porn? That part I don't think would bother me.
I accept porn as a vicarious form of adult entertainment. Also, it's convenient and not expensive. If I'm driving to a strip club, then I want a blowjob (sans audience). I don't want to spectate one.
I don't drive to an amusement park and pay admission to watch other people on the rides. If I'm going there, I want to be on the ride.
Yes I would have a major problem being shown in the background. I get bent out of shape if I’m in some random acquaintances photo posted on Facebook/Instagram/X.
I may want to run for mayor someday and don’t want anymore dirt found on my in addition to all the crap already out there that’s easy to find on me. Who am I kidding, they’d just have to find my cellphone records and they’d say “he was within 50 feet of the Flight Club in Detroit FOR 3 DAYS IN A ROW,” then I’d be screwed.
If I cared about being able to see some other guy getting blown half of my best strip club stories wouldn't have happened. I'm not trying to see it, but I'm not passing up smashing the stripper of my choice ITC because some other guy might have a look. Not that I do that anymore...
Now on the other hand, I'm not going to sit there randomly watching another guy get blown either cause that's just kinda weird.
Quite accidentally, I showed up at a strip club that had just opened the doors to the public (as in male customers) after a male strip show for an exclusively female audience had finished. Talk about a bunch of horny civvies. It was a nice role reversal to be hustled by horny women customers. I wouldn't want to have my face in a video at a strip club (referencing the OP), but I would not avoid reaping the benefits of women who were aroused by a male stripper performance.
Once some years ago I walked into the Flight Club and it was full of cameras and microphones and technicians. They were filming an episode of "Topless Prophet," the show about Alan Markovitz and his strip clubs. I sat with a bunch of my dancer friends and they were not happy. Most guys would walk in, see the cameras, and walk right back out. The Flight Club dancers lost business so Alan could promote himself. I stayed. Nothing can make my reputation any worse.
Years ago, when Bee Olson was at her peak, she had a birthday party at her home strip club in Fort Wayne. Cameras were allowed in for the night. Everybody had to sign waivers before entering as HBO was filming. ( this was before smartphones). Most guys brought their point and shoot 2mp cameras. I walked in like a boss with my Nikon gear and flashes. The strippers were all over me wanting their pictures taken. Photos of the stripper were taken on the stage, on the stairs, by the bars and even on their baby grand piano.
The upstairs area was reserved for Bree and her group. Once Bree and her group arrived, they got up on stage and proceeded to strip to their g-strings and dance. After her performance they eventually went back upstairs to party. Somehow, I was able to follow upstairs. I proceeded to get Bree alone for some private photos. At that time, she was a really nice and sweet lady! It was a fun night.
"where a dude in a bear costume shows up at a ladies-night-only event, the guy unmasks himself from his bear costume walks around the room and ladies suck him off--all on camera."
Let me get this straight. You think that this actually happens?
Think about it again, very slowly. Do you really think this stuff happens?
lol y'all focused the Dancing Bear example of mine way too much. I just mentioned Dancing Bear as an offhand example, yo.
How did this turn into 'I'm not gonna watch a guy get head in a strip club' thread. That's not the question here. The basic question was: if a Strip Club is filming something minor and posted it online and you're visible appearing in the background, would it upset you. I just posted the Dancing Bear as an example.
And I get how some were like, it's all acting and the ladies are in on it for the Dancing Bear. Sure. But what about 10-15 years down the road when that lady got a family and kids and she's a different person than a decade ago.
I'm also asking because you may also be like with all the money I spent at this damn SC, I'm cool with appearing in the background of a video. This SC may not be around forever. It's nice I was captured partying there.
I was in this situation. Walked in the SC and there were professional cameras all around. They were taping a commercial for the club that would appear in Vimeo. At first I avoided the cameras but it was impossible. Then I thought it'd be cool to appear in the background. Just for a second, tho. Now it's been like a decade later and that SC has been gone like 7 years now. The owner was murdered or something. I don't know where that commercial is. But I do see their vids on Vimeo. I don't see myself in any of them which is a relief. But now that this SC is all gone, it's like, damn now I wouldn't be upset if I appeared briefly in a vid, the SC is all gone now..
I never want to appear on-line in any capacity, but as a former swinger all the stuff people here seem to hate is stuff I have seen live, and I couldn't care less. Didn't bother me seeing it, as I was not part of it and when you swing, being uptight about anything kills your chances. It's no different than when swingers say I love seeing my wife get fucked by other guys it's an incredible turn on. I've seen it. Glad my wife had a good time, but it does zilch to me. No different than watching anything else, its fine as long as I am not involved. I will answer before anyone asks: nope never double teamed my wife. I assume she's done 2 guys, but it is of no difference to me.
If word gets around, at a company you work at or are interviewing at, that you frequent strip clubs, your chances of keeping/getting a job there go way down. So then, you won't have the money to frequent strip clubs. Catch 22.
Dude, you’ve been here for 15 years and are surprised your thread got thrown in a tangent loop? Were you not paying attention all those years. Next stage is when we take aim at your decisions. Basic tuscl thread evolution.
This was actually a problem in Atlanta when a new club opened. I saw myself on their IG. They even filmed the cars (and their license plates) in the lot to show how crowded they were. There was my less than common car front and center.
They have toned it down, but keep reposting older videos of dancers on stage with customers in the background.
They're not your PLs-old-enough-to-be-the-stripper's-grandfather strip clubs anymore. Magic City blew up, to the point where people wanted bragging rights for dancing there or throwing thousands in singles there. So the no pictures rule went out the window, and many strip clubs started aspiring to be Magic City.
I think that nearly every "private" booth I've been in, has had the potential to have mini-cameras in the upper corners filming everything. I have seen actual cameras on many occasions. I know they are at my two or three main clubs. I just don't know if they're turned on. I must assume the filmed activities could incriminate ownership and dancers just as much it could harm the reputations of customers. It's an excellent way for management to know how much of a rake to demand off of each dancer, by identifying what level of service she gave. And it can serve as a nice front for public-relations purposes toward the morality police, giving management a plausible claim that the presence of the cameras is a deliberate deterrent to wrongdoing, helping to keep the unruly dancers more in line with the local jurisdiction's requirements. "Look see, Miss Bible-Thumper Battle-Axe, we got cameras, so you know Minxie ain't gettin' away with nothin' in 'dere."
Now'days, camera risk is simply part of daily life. In strip clubs or not. Way back in the 80s when I first attended clubs, many of them had side-entrances where you could really hide your face on the way in, so nobody could identify you. The parking lot and entry-way layouts of old-school clubs (and adult movie theaters) was often arranged with this kind of privacy in mind. Also the gay bars in New Orleans were connected by back routes through courtyards and mid-block key lots, often accessed via the restaurant's kitchen. All those old mid-block courtyards are now classy condominium garden grottoes, but they used to be destinations for vice trade. People could avoid prying eyes.
But now, cameras are small enough, that they could easily be hidden in potted plants and you'd never know. It's almost silly to ask customers to never bring a camera into the club, any more. We all have our phones. I have seen a few clueless customers try to point and shoot from their waist (sometimes they forgot to turn off the flash, DOH!). Dancers have to know, that surreptitious films are almost impossible to avoid now. By about 2005 the window girls in Amsterdam were starting to give up on the water-bombing that they had traditionally used against photographers for decades, since cameras had grown prevalent. Now they simply charge a fee to take a picture.
And just as likely that a girl can get photographed, so you can get photographed too. If your likeness appears in a production that is distributed for profit, you have a right to prevent its distribution (if you can catch them beforehand) or demand part of the profits and legal remedy (a.k.a. money damages from a lawsuit!). It's illegal "appropriation of name or likeness" type law, usually codified in most jurisdictions. But if they blur you out, they can go ahead, usually.
@ Hank Moody and the trajectory of a TUSCL thread -- haha good laughs
If clubs have cameras for dancer safety, or because they will be closed if they tolerate extras, that's a different issue. I thought this thread was about not wanting your image out on the internet as a dancer or a customer.
Yes I didn't mean to run off on a tangent about camera history (Hank Moody's comment sanctioned tangents, after all!), but mostly the concern is (and should be!) the worry over a customer (or dancer) getting the unpleasant surprise of seeing himself (or herself) on the internet in someone else's films.
Dancing Bear is fake, everyone there including the ladies are paid performers. There used to be a website called onlinestripclubs or something like that, but it was mostly focused on the stage and did a pretty good job filtering out the mongers.