Rating web site for men..... by SA girls / Pros.

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3131
Had a potential new girl on SA tell me I'd had a recent bad review. Apparently they link to your phone number.

I'm assuming it's a site that requires some sort of invite or vetting process.

I had no idea this was a thing. My goto is not usually the high volume pros, but sometimes it's hard to filter that on SA.

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twaumpster1
2 years ago
Whoa… never heard of such a thing. Anyone have the info?
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rickdugan
2 years ago
Nope. Of course I work pretty hard to weed out the pros on SA, so hopefully this will never happen.

It's sometimes easy and sometimes a combination of things, but they generally include one or more of the following:

=> She purchased a premium membership;
=> She's eager for an instant meetup without any preliminaries;
=> Her number pops in a Google search as an escort;
=> I find her photo on Tryst, Eros or STG; and/or
=> Her backstory starts to fall apart during the prelims.

On that last one, sometimes it's a matter of trusting your instincts. I've been doing this for a very long time with strippers. When you do the same shit over and over with generations of strippers, you learn to pickup on body language and verbal signals.

Anyway, just a few thoughts to consider.
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CJKent_band
2 years ago
@3131

I will play along and will comment on your discussion.

Please take a good hard look at how you have been acting/behaving with the sugar babies you are trying to “make a deal” and ask yourself if thatis really the person you want to be.

However more important is for YOU IS to know and understand that:

"It's not up to you to decide if you're an asshole, it's up to everybody else"

~ Louis Székely
~ White Privileged stand up comedian
~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.

Self-awareness is very important. You need to once in a while recognize that YES, YOU ARE kind of an asshole, or behaved like one and you could have behaved differently.

You should have asked the girl, who told you, where did she view the review about you and ask for her help to fix the situation.
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3131
2 years ago
She sent me a screenshot. It was brief. Not from a girl I'd ever met, just one that was unhappy with however our discussion negotiations started. I'm guessing it was one of the SA girls I'd talked to in that time frame that wanted over 1k.

I don't really care to fix the situation.

I can fix it quickly by getting a new burner text number if I wanted to. But I dont.
Point being for me , I'm really not looking for that high volume pro. I like the SA girls that want to get dinner or drinks and then hotel for fun. There are TONS of them in most cities I've visited.
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3131
2 years ago
Of course I'm an asshole. Fully admit. Most of you probably are also.
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Specialj
2 years ago
I’m the nicest asshole you’ll ever meet
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Htxx
2 years ago
I would think the sb take shit like that with a grain of salt. A few I know are getting territorial with me wanting more time/money. Asking why I’m not more available etc. maybe they’re using that site to ward off other sb’s and keep the money flowing to them instead of others. I wouldn’t sweat it personally
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Warrior15
2 years ago
Holy crap. I don't like this at all. Did the service or website have a name ?
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skibum609
2 years ago
Reason #421 why I have less than zero interest in OTC of any type.
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Subraman
2 years ago
It's not a website, it's an app that replaces your phone's dialer and lets people leave reviews on a phone number. The escort community keeps the app name secret, because they -- arguably, with great justification -- don't want the sometimes dangerous predators who get reviewed there, to find out about it and change their number, so it's a matter of physical safety for the escorts. Nevertheless, it's just a public app in both the app store and in the play store, and the name slips out occasionally.

In general, only professional sexworkers (escorts, etc) and "professional style" SBs know about it.
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rattdog
2 years ago
"I'm really not looking for that high volume pro. I like the SA girls that want to get dinner or drinks and then hotel for fun."

granted, most SA girls aren't in the high volume category - they're quite unlikely to be screwing and 4-8 guys a day. but don't be surprised if they screw 4-8 different guys say every 2 months.

i remember going to this girl's house that i met on SA. she grabs a rubber off from a table. okkkayyy - i guess she has a roster of guys she's seeing or will be seeing eventually. no big deal as i just want to get off and it was my turn that night.
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3131
2 years ago
@warrior she didn't disclose a name. And I can't see it from the screenshot.could be a web forum? I doubt it's an app.
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Warrior15
2 years ago
All "arrangements" eventually end. Most end on amicable terms. Some do not. I don't want some crazy bitch to be leaving "Reviews" about me. I may have to rethink using my actual phone number. Heck, even with girls that I trust. This could be some way for a girl to seek some revenge if the relationship goes sour. We need to do some research on this.

Where is Subraman ?
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3131
2 years ago
I'm guessing it's for pros that are vetted by other pros to even access the site.
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Subraman
2 years ago
I've read about blacklists like that also, 3131, but those are typically run with even tighter vetting (as you guessed). The app is in widespread use throughout the sexworker community and as easy to use as downloading. If a girl is using one of the blacklist sites, she's spent a lot more time researching and getting vetted... I'd say pretty good sign she's a pro pro
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rickdugan
2 years ago
As Sub indicated, the app in question is usually only used by professional escorts. It monitors incoming calls and texts and automatically alerts the provider if there is a negative report on the number in its database.

If 3131 is coming across SA girls who use that app, odds are that they are also on Eros, Tryst or one of the other escort sites. To each his own I suppose, but that's not the space I like to play in. Fortunately Jacksonville is a small enough market that screening is not too hard. There are only about 40 girls on Eros and 80 on Tryst at any one time and STG has a convenient pictures only option that I can sift through in about 10 minutes. Tryst is the one that pops most often for me. It's generally considered a higher-end escort site and girls who go through the trouble of getting nice pics to post there can't help but also use at least one of them on SA.

I'll also add that most girls don't casually post a negative report on that app as too many negative reports can get a girl kicked off the app if it looks like she's posting questionable intel. 3131 must have said or done something to really piss the girl off and I doubt it was solely a disagreement about price.
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Dolfan
2 years ago
It's interesting, I'm not sure I care enough to alter my behavior though. I'd just as soon the girls using those sort of apps exclude me from consideration, saves me the trouble of trying to weed them out.

Additionally, keying on phone numbers is getting less and less reliable. At least from my perspective. People change numbers frequently, especially younger people. People also use those burner number services, which recycle the numbers much faster than traditional phone providers. This is even more true of problematic people, strippers, escorts, and customers alike.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Cacaplop js running out of ideas.

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Subraman
2 years ago
"It's interesting, I'm not sure I care enough to alter my behavior though"

Hopefully none of us are doing anything that should get us reported in the first place, though the nature of these systems is that they ALWAYS generate some level of "revenge reviews". And SBs do sometimes report guys for acting more like johns than SDs.

Using a fake number and changing it yearly would seem to defeat this completely. But you're right, it's kind of a reverse filter also -- If an "SB" is actually a working escort or professional-style SB, I'd be perfectly happy if they filtered themselves out so I don't have to figure it out myself
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
Girls talk. And everyone jn a club knows info on tricks. But there's no secret database. This is just a cacaplop thread
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
^ You should change your profile subtitle to read "The boy who cried 'Cacaplop'."
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Warrior15
2 years ago
Filtering out PROS off of SA is a good thing. I agree with that. I just don't want a Review of my cell phone number that is "discoverable" .
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Warrior15
2 years ago
And I knew Subraman would know all about this.
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Dolfan
2 years ago
Now I'm worried about being reviewed as a good customer and having them solicit me directly. Okay, maybe I'm not "worried" about it, but the thought passed through my brain for long enough to make it into a reply here.

I'd think it's beyond unlikely, maybe impossible given the description of how it works. But the data being out there certainly makes it possible. As direct marketing goes, it's not totally without merit. You got a customers number who you know buys what you're selling. He's well reviewed. If the reviewers have similar body types, price ranges, and you're in the area, why not hit him up? Feels like eventually, someone's gonna fail to see the million things that could go wrong.
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Hank Moody
2 years ago
Seems to me the ‘solution’ here is to do two things you should be doing already: use a burner number and don’t be a dick.
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Call.Me.Ishmael
2 years ago
^ This.
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3131
2 years ago
@jimmy is politely declining a 1k ppm being a dick?

You've oversimplified it.

But what most of us are getting at is our target SA girls aren't using the site anyway!
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wallanon
2 years ago
"But what most of us are getting at is our target SA girls aren't using the site anyway!"

If you're having fun, try not to overthink it. But if you know something is out there that is linking IRL you to something, it's just something to keep in mind as you go about the hobby.
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Hank Moody
2 years ago
No, it’s not being a dick to politely decline an offer. But, using a burner number provides you coverage in the case of an unfair or inaccurate review. Use the two together.
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Icee Loco (asshole)
2 years ago
There are no reviews.
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rickmacrodong
2 years ago
Whats the name of that app? There may be more than just escorts using this, possibly some small businesses, depending how common it is.

I think the escorts if theyre smart understand that some escorts could leave bad reviews on someone in the hopes other providers don’t see them, so their competition goes down. This is a possibility anytime the consumer is being reviewed... kind of like how sometimes businesses write fake reviews on competitors.
There obviously isnt any kind of vetting process for leaving reviews on that website because I had one eros girl leave a negative review when all I did was ask her rates and not get back to her or say anything after that. I only found out about it because another escort sent me a screenshot of the review. And of course the person who left the review didn’t put the truth in there, it was iirc a latina with subpar english and the comment just said something like “suspicious person”. It was a text app number that I used that i ended up losing anyway.
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rickmacrodong
2 years ago
I dont think there is only one specific app- likely many of these number review apps in use. Dont businesses also use a form of this, blacklisting a number or whatever?
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TheeOSU
2 years ago
there was a site years ago, i think this was it..
http://blacklist.com/

not surprised that there's still something else out there, there's probably more than one but i don't play with pros or fuck women over so hopefully i don't have to worry about it.
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