Ignore, Attack or Leave ???
Warrior15
Anywhere there are Titties.
2icee , IceyLoco, Eltriste, Phat Boi Fred. Whatever the shithead wants to call himself. I have to hand one thing to this guy. He has united all of TUSCL. It doesnt' matter who you are. Conservative or liberal, black or white or brown or whatever, north or south, male or female. Everyone hates this guy. No one agrees with a single thing this guy says. Many have already chosen to Ignore him. Many seem to enjoy arguing with him. No one ever comes to his defense.
But we seem to be at risk of losing some of our participants if we don't do something about this person. So let's discuss our choices.
1- We can Ignore. But it will only work if we ALL Ignore him. Icey seems to feed on the arguments. He initiates most of them. If absolutely no one ever comments on any his comments or threads, then he will eventually lose interest and go away. Again, this will only work if EVERYONE does this.
2- We can attack him. Everything he says, go after him. And everyone do it. Every thread he starts, every comment he makes. Start threads attacking him. The sad thing is we are not very far away from this right now. And I don't really want to disrupt the flow of other conversations just to give attention to the Iceman. I"m actually afraid he would enjoy the attention.
3- We can choose to leave. But I enjoy most of my time on TUSCL. There are several very intelligent people on this board with a wide range of interests and knowledge. Most of it has nothign to do with strip clubs. I like TUSCL. Why should I leave because of one stupid person ?
So what do we do ? If the consensus is to Ignore, I will definitely join in. If you want to attack, I am very capable of spewing out some venom. I dont' really want to leave.
But we seem to be at risk of losing some of our participants if we don't do something about this person. So let's discuss our choices.
1- We can Ignore. But it will only work if we ALL Ignore him. Icey seems to feed on the arguments. He initiates most of them. If absolutely no one ever comments on any his comments or threads, then he will eventually lose interest and go away. Again, this will only work if EVERYONE does this.
2- We can attack him. Everything he says, go after him. And everyone do it. Every thread he starts, every comment he makes. Start threads attacking him. The sad thing is we are not very far away from this right now. And I don't really want to disrupt the flow of other conversations just to give attention to the Iceman. I"m actually afraid he would enjoy the attention.
3- We can choose to leave. But I enjoy most of my time on TUSCL. There are several very intelligent people on this board with a wide range of interests and knowledge. Most of it has nothign to do with strip clubs. I like TUSCL. Why should I leave because of one stupid person ?
So what do we do ? If the consensus is to Ignore, I will definitely join in. If you want to attack, I am very capable of spewing out some venom. I dont' really want to leave.
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Rule 6: "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
- Saul Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals"
Ridiculing SJG is more fun than anyone, because he thinks he's got some exalted status here. He's a guaranteed overreaction.
Icee and I go through cycles of being civil (usually when talking strip clubs or civvie dating) and not (usually when talking politics). But the above rules apply to anyone. It's when people--anyone--take themselves too seriously that they get insufferable. He and 25 embody the saying "it takes two to tango."
In short, I'll act how I act towards everyone. Do what you will.
To my way of thinking the two way block would signal appreciation by founder, without forcing him to take sides in any conflict but he doesn’t see it that way, unfortunately for me.
I’m not seeking a safe space as some have suggested, I come from a time and a place where you didn’t talk shit about people that had no part in the conversation without getting a smack in the head, I’m not willing to let the type of remarks that scumbag makes pass unresponded to , if he can do this with impunity I refuse to be part of this discussion
Like I said I wish you all well, it’s really not complicated to me.
Feckless, cowardly weakling.
Having no life outside of TUSCL is having no life at all.
1. Shut down these discussion boards
2. Eliminate the adjudication process.
3. Post all reviews except those that go outside what describes illegal activities
4. Eliminate the comment section on posted reviews
Problem solved.
Maybe call it TUSCDB.NET. The Ultimate Strip Club Discussion Board.
There you go. Everyone is happy and founder has a new revenue stream.
However, I get 25 is making a point. Not just for himself but for the sake of the board. If it's true that almost all the discussion participants are united in their opinion of this poster Icee, which appears to be the case, then you would think Founder would step in and simply ban him. So I have to admit I'm with 25 in being rather baffled why Founder allows such an egregious and disruptive troll on the site, at the expense of other participants and the overall intended purpose of the site.
@Warrior I will likely keep trolling Iceydodo back as long as she's going to continue to be a troll.
Also there is hope. She's downward spiraling worse into her drug addiction(s). She can no longer type coherently with her misspellings and she is limited to short and basic sentences. We are literally witnessing the deterioration of her mind as she becomes a bigger and bigger junkie.
Her health is also deteriorating with her needing a respirator at her age. And ultimately IMO she's going to hit rock bottom and that's when her posting will stop. So have hope that this is soon.
Until then, I'll say it again...
The point of Iceydodo's existence here is to elevate herself above others. She does this through straight up bragging, aggrandizing and embellishing debacles with stripper whores, denigrating others that pay sex workers, and passive aggressively playing the victim of trolling. Just look at any thread that she posts in and the examples supporting this are numerous. It's predictable.
And the core reason she's doing this is because of her own inner guilt and self loathing of using and abusing desperate junkie stripper whores. Deep down she knows this but she doesn't want to face it. So what does she do? She finds targets to blame for their faults and again elevate herself above them. And somehow through this she feels better about her pathetic self.
Again it's evident in nearly all her posts and the pattern is there in every thread.
I'll treat him like anyone else. Engage when he acts normal, make him my scratching post when he acts the fool.
My Option 1 is for us to treat Icey the same way as scrub. Just totally Ignore him.
I have avoided using ignore, and I’ve held to that until recently. I had to ignore Moneyman1234 because he has mimicked my account visually, and it’s distracting to see the same avatar in discussions. I think I have one other member I’ve ignored, so it takes a lot to reach that level.
As mentioned previously, the options we have, as members, are likely only feasible if we all adopt them - and hold to them. That can be very difficult - as we may be less amenable to herding than cats…
I read Twentyfive’s post as well, and I would not want to lose him as a member. He provides reasonable discussions and comments. He’s not an account created solely to troll and stir the pot. So, in my view, one legitimate member’s opinion outweighs several troll’s opinions. I understand that might sound harsh, but in my view, it is true.
skibum, somehow I think your idea of "attack" Icey might be different than my idea.
I put Icey and SJG on ignore for a year, and it was better to a point. That said many threads became incoherent because so many posts were directed at the dumb-namic duo. I'll admit, I finally unignored them because a series of threads seemed rather high drama and were totally incomprehensible with those two on ignore. This was around the time of founder's "free speech" lockdown. So, I am guilty of enjoying the drama, and moreover guilty of gleefully kicking Icey when he's too stoned to have an argument.
There are times when he has toned down the shitty comments and adds some decent content to the threads, and since I have a strict "don't be an ass and all is forgiven" policy wrt TUSCL, I'm cool with Icey and anyone else as long as he is on good behavior. This seems like a trap in a way, as he dials back the crappy comments for a while and then gets me engaging with him just in time to revert to type.
I think a reasonable 4 is "don't reply to trolling, whether you're using ignore or not".
Muddy at no. 27?! How is that even possible? Muddy is like pancakes, everybody loves pancakes!