Self checkout. Is it OK to fuck corporations over?
Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
What do you think of saving at self checkout? Is it the moral equivalent of lowballing a hoe? Or just saving a little and a form of every day resistance against corporations?
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Back during the COVID restrictions, when people refused to wear masks (despite mandates) as a form of "resistance" I believed that it was -- as protests go -- incredibly weak, self-serving, and disingenuous. Portraying shoplifting as a form of resistance falls into the same category of theatrical justification.
Grow your own food. Buy from local farms. Buy things that last and aren't disposable. Buy things that are handmade or learn to make them yourself.
Not only can’t they have self-checkout in the hood, they can’t even have supermarkets because people steal so much.
60 cent price difference in something like tomatoes adds up to millions of dollars...
In Vegas casinos won't cash out an6thing under a dollar
And some of those employees will stand behind you. Walk around you. Stare you down. It's stupid. I always tell them to lower prices instead of treating customers like thieves who might potentially buy something.
But is it somewhat less unethical in light of the prices when you ring them up not matching what it says on the shelf? And this isn’t even a one time thing but something that has been happening over and over again the past few months? I won’t be stealing anything, but if I see somebody else do that…then heck no, I didn’t see anything.
I know yall hate corporate robs as much as club robs right?
The labor shortages have driven up labor costs and, in an effort to keep them down, businesses hire fewer workers. The result is customers receive poorer service. Widespread stealing would lead to higher expenses for businesses, who would then just raise their prices. In some cities, stealing is already so out of control that urban businesses have been disappearing. Businesses in these areas can't even operate at a profit due to the out of control stealing.
A living wage is a purely subjective term for some people its $10 an hour for some its $30.
Also the whole foods has like 10 self checkout registers and only 2 or at most 3 employees watching so it’s net-net still significantly cheaper than having 10 employees.
And the discount you talk of w.r.t. customers doing labor work for self checkout, that’s worth at most a few bucks. It’s laughable to see you say this with all your $1000 otc and other comments
Food is 8 to 10 times cheaper in the 21st century than it’s ever been in the history of mankind. Thank you corporations and Capitalism.
Do you know what a corporation is? It’s an organization designed to efficiently and economically produce and sell a product. Yes, they want to make a profit, but the efficiency makes the product cheaper to produce which results in a lower cost to the consumer.
https://fee.org/articles/food-prices-in-…
The truth is - there is likely little current benefit to self checkout as it requires more staff to assist when the product weight isn’t detected in the bagging area. It honestly feels as though we are doing the testing for the self checkout machines.
I don’t steal. I don’t need any product enough that I would steal it from a store.
The last thing I want is to get arrested for stealing a box of Ho Ho’s from my local grocery store, and jeopardize my employment with the bank. It would seem to be beyond stupid for a senior manager and bank officer to get arrested over something so inconsequential.
I think its about union busting and cutting the costs of employee benefits.
Fucking them over every little way is a form of every day resistance.
LULZ
I dont think self checkout requires as much staff members. From what i rememher, whole foods and walmarts with 10 self checkout registers have much less than 10 employees watching. Usually 3 to 5 at most. This provides significant savings to businesses, they can cut hours and number of employees. If you go to whole foods near closing theres sometimes only one employee watching self checkout.
Some of the businesses are trying to automate as much ad possible. Amazon stores, mcdonalds and more. Sometimes if you go to mcdonalds theres only one person both taking orders and taking payment, and one person preparing the items.
The amazon stores plan didnt seem to go as well as planned. They had the idea that people would grab items and be charged for them automatically. But they have many employees walking around watching everything
And as others have said, almost nowhere in the world is food cheaper and more abundant than it is in the U.S. You can thank those evil American corporations for that.
Lulz you are like a symbiote version of champphilly
20fag resisting capitalist price gouging
Rick...I agree theft is wrong. Especially theft from workers and customers to benefit a parasitic elite
Yeah, the King Sooper/Kroger locations around the Denver area are outright lying about their sales prices too. Wtf is the point of even having anything on sale anymore?
As far as I know, the HEBs in Texas aren’t pulling that crap. I miss HEB so much 😭
Victim mentality is no excuse for theft. Besides a grocery store is hardly a monopoly. Anyone who doesn't want to work or shop there can just go somewhere else.
I spoke with a guy at an auto parts store who used to work at King Soopers (Kroger) before and during COVID. He said his job was marking the prices on the shelves including sale prices. He said the system sucked. It dod not always update prices on the rest of the stores system.
I am not the type to steal, but if I see it happening it is none of my business
There are a few government promoted monopolies
Like dole
Some of the medical industry
Monopolies can only be created by a government
Obvious that icedpee has never been involved in management or owned a business.
No one has ever “stared me down” while I self-checkout either but then I don’t steal or look like a thief I guess.
Baloney. More victim excuses. Maybe buy a bus pass if you only have one grocery store in walking distance.
He’s just a lowlife, unhappy, bottom tier thug, normal happy folks don’t make excuses for their bad behavior, nor do they cast aspersions about others that they don’t know
Iceefag would never speak out loud much of what he says, do you or anyone else have any doubts that if he were to make comments about my wife or children would earn him at the very least a trip to the dentist.
623 what does a thief look like? White collar criminals rob Americans the most
20fag your wife left you and your kids ignore you.stop threatening me for stating facts
Are you a poor elderly woman?
Let’s clarify a few things my wife never left me, my children are very close we spend most holidays together and speak daily, and one very important point so it’s not lost on you, this isn’t just my opinion it’s a majority opinion of this board, you are a piece of trash, and if you ever have the misfortune to run into me you will regret it, I promise.
Yeah I caught that too. dougee's next alias will be something akin to Roseanne Roseanadanna, never mind lulz
There were cable company monopolies created years ago as well, but now that industry has changed and alternatives exist. Again, grocery stores don’t fit that structure either.
I guess NYC and its boroughs are different, as there are many old ladies who take the bus to the grocery store. Some prefer the foods or selection from different stores, and they will travel a bit for it.
He wants to only date strippers, but doesn’t want his girlfriends to perform extras- and doesn’t want them to have to compete with girls who offer extras, so he has a severe hatred for anyone seeking out or receiving extras, and gleefully jumps in joy anytime someone is robbed or gets a no extras dance.
He spends extensive time trying to convince people $1000 is the norm for OTC, that slim to no strippers perform extras, etc, to discourage people from seeking out extras and discourage other dancers from offering them.
Anyways.
Stores are insured. They don't really raise prices coz people steal. I think stores are.the thieves with today's prices.
Actually, target is pretty good with honoring their prices. Say you see something online for like $5 but in store it is like $14 or vice versa with in store vs online flipped, they will honor the lower price but u gotta talk to them.
Like tonight I went to my favorite sushi place. The portions were half what they were last week. Prices $5 more. And fish size way smaller.
It must suck being such a baller at the clubs and living the good life with junkie stripper whores while also having to shave a dollar off your pork chops at self checkout. Have you considered getting on food stamps or start going to food banks? Worst case you can dumpster dive at McDonald's or just flat out beg for food.
And think about it - by no longer going to the grocery store at all for food, you won't have to use the evil self checkout and give any amount of money whatsoever to the store. This is a brilliant way to resist the evil corporations like you want. It's even better than shaving that dollar off the pork chops, no?
I also like the self checkouts if it means I can buy stuff and get out of the store a lot quicker which I usually can compared to long lines with a cashier. In several cases, I believe I am faster than the store cashiers.
Don’t sweat the self checkout lines too much, one day everything will ring up as you pick it up off the store shelf as technology advances. I read it is being developed. Not sure if it cost effective yet.
If you want extra discounts at Walmart, search YouTube videos for how to identify items in the store below the marked clearance price using the Walmart app if getting discounts is important t you. They don’t hire enough staff to put all the marked down prices on their clearance items.
There are a lot of issues and much that can be complained about when it comes to grocery stores. This isnt one of them. None of these stores upcharged you. The problem is just like how you believe tenants can rob and beat landlords, and how you believe landlords and tricks are evil you think businesses are evil and consumers can rob and beat them. Its the same shit as your views on strippers vs clients, tenants vs landlords where you believe one side is always good and one is always evil.
Despite being a strip club PL baller, she can't afford basic groceries, and that is the fault of evil greedy corporations and not her own inability to manage her own finances.
Despite being a strip club PL baller, she can't afford basic rent, and that is the fault of evil landlords and not her own inability to manage her own finances.
With strippers vs clients, she sides with the strippers and denigrates the clients because she wants to view herself as someone that can get strippers without paying - despite the fact that she showers junkie stripper whores with money and drugs and spends way more on them than your average trick. Even though she is an RIL trick bitch, she loathes to see herself as one, so she puts down other PLs.
This is Iceydodo's MO on TUSCL. She's a pathetic loser narcissist, so she's going to find faults and denigrate anything in order to feel superior to it. So now that the self checkout and grocery prices are too inconvenient for her, they become an easy target. Trust me, if she can find an opportunity to post her superiority or put something else down, she'll do it. LMFAO she's compelled to! 🤭🤡😂😂😂
I wish some of you were as passionate about calling out price gouging as a rob as you are girls who refuse to fuck you. Or that you were as outraged by actual price gouging as you are by hookers who charge more than $100
Some of her posts in this thread are inane. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
If someone is poor, or even starving, should they steal from a big grocery store chain to eat or feed a family if they have to? Whatever the ethics are, they will. I would. It would suck but I would do it if that was the circumstance. And the checkers at the local grocery will not care.
I don’t steal because there is absolutely no reason to do it. Groceries are cheap, a minor expense in my life. The hassle of implications from getting caught doing it is a deterrent as well, but to lesser degree. Another reason not to steal is that we’re all in this together, as a community… so I’d never steal from a neighbor or individual.
That all being said, it’s a weird flex to steal when you have plenty
I agree with your assessment of corporate ethics, but the fact remains, despite that being true, food and other neces, sities are cheaper as a percentage of wages than at any time in history, and there is no place in America where food is not abundantly available to anyone who needs to eat whether they have money to pay for it or not, with that in mind there is no justification, whatsoever for stealing from stores, go to a free food pantry, a local church group, or any of a multitude of non profit organizations throughout the United States
I guess you wouldn’t, so that’s more of a question for icey.
Today I saw an elderly woman get caught "stealing" instant coffee and bacon. Saw a teenage boy "steal" bread and bologna. They're not criminals. They're hungry.
And many on here are struggling financially. Hence the threads on bargain pussy and complaints of prices.
You don't have to be poor to empathize with them or defend them.
20fag so block me.
Reminder of what a POS Iceefag
Dm me when you're in vegas
Lying motherfucker
So why do you steal them? What is the thrill?
Despite being on opposite ends of political ideology, Much of you post is true. But stealing should not be tolerated
And if you can't, then shut the stupid fucking holes under your noses until you can.
Less convenient and/or embarrassing are not the same as unavailable or scarce. Fuck we have soup kitchens and food pantries receiving so much in donations that they end up having to throw food away. Food is so damned abundant in this country that there is no need to steal it. It may require a little more effort and advance planning, but that's far preferable to stealing.
I have been on both sides of this, dirt poor and later in my life part of food outreach programs.
I have met a few food robbers in my life, and they had the means to buy food, they were just greedy or enjoyed the thrill or entitled. One guys justification for stealing soda was its just sugar and water lol. But the same guy admitted he would steal much pricier things if he could.
I don’t think stealing due to starvation is that common. Look at all these blm protests (which icee engaged in), videos of places like target being looted and destroyed. People are going for the highest price items they can get, usually electronics. Same with the mall store lootings. Its stealing an expensive pair of shoes or electronics for personal usage or to resell and get something else.
It must be nice to live in a silly girl world where you can say whatever you want and never have to support your belief. 👍
The reality is that nobody should be hungry in this country. We have a generous EBT program where they haven't even had to look for work since the pandemic started. There are soup kitchens and food pantries scattered all over the place. We have an abundance of discount grocery options unrivaled in any country in the world.
Our undocumented immigrants know this all too well. Unlike their poor American born counterparts, they don't qualify for government food assistance. Yet they find these food sources, including fresh fruits and vegetables, even if it means hopping on a bus.
As someone who has been directly involved in outreach to immigrant and other at risk communities and with food pantries, I have seen this shit play out time and again. The true challenges we face in dealing with food issues are drug abuse and neglect. Whenever there is a hungry kid, there is always a parent who has sold their EBT card for drug money (around here you can get 50 cents on the dollar) or is simply neglecting the child.
Criminalizing poverty while justifying your own crimes and lack of morals.
Los Angeles is the size of like rhode island. You're telling people to hop on the bus and find cheap food 🤡
https://www.google.com/search?q=food+des…
There are reasons for that. One being that a lot of poor people simply don't have access to healthy foods in their budget, so they have to get quantity over quality and that ends up being a lot of unhealthy, process foods. So it does have everything to do w/ food insecurity. And yes, food deserts are a big thing in both poor urban and poor rural areas. There are places along Appalachia where it's over a hour drive to an actual grocery store. There are whole inner cities that have no major grocery stores, and people in both of these types of areas aren't known to be groups of people with easy access to transportation. And hunger affects more people in the US than you might think (I believe something like 1 in 5 kids in the US struggle with hunger / food insecurity).
If anyone seriously wants to argue about this, I recommend first watching a documentary which highlights this and follows kids from these types of areas who struggle with hunger, it's called A Seat at the Table and Tom Colicchio is a producer. The film is focused on child hunger specifically in the US. It highlights poverty and food insecurity of children of various impoverished backgrounds. It is very informative.
Which ones would those be? Feel free to be specific.
Btw this stat is absolute horseshit, for all of the reasons I previously noted above. The reality is that the amount of public and private resources we throw at the food issue in this country are overwhelming. The reality is that nobody should be hungry in this country, except maybe a handful of kids who live 1 hour plus from a store in the mountains. We have a generous EBT program where they haven't even had to look for work since the pandemic started. There are soup kitchens and food pantries scattered all over the place. We have an abundance of discount grocery options unrivaled in any country in the world.
What we DO have, however, is a multi-billion dollar charitable industry that needs to keep pumping bullshit numbers like that in order to keep the cash donations flowing.
In fact the food panties and soup kitchens I have worked with received so much damned food that they had to throw a solid % of it out. There was simply more food coming in than people to accept it.
The true challenges we face in dealing with food issues are drug abuse and neglect. Whenever there is a hungry kid, there is always either a parent who has sold their EBT card for drug money (around here you can get 50 cents on the dollar) or is simply neglecting the child.
If I see someone putting some small stuff in their bags, I'll carry on and not say a thing. I know the grocery store is OK, but I don't know this person's situation - they might be struggling. Plus, these corporations fuck everyone else over anyway, so I don't care if some wants a little piece of the pie. Take it.
I actually stole a few bags of ice from a store. To be fair, I'd spent tons of money repeatedly at this store. I was a maid of honor in my friend's wedding and spent probably 10K in the year leading up to her wedding on stuff related to her wedding. Seriously, I spent a lot. So for one of her events, maybe the bridal shower idk, we went to a grocery store out by her house and I spent a couple hundred on stuff for her party and then we realized we had forget ice and I said fuck it and grabbed a few bags of ice and only rang it in as one.
My friend is a goody two shoes so she saw me doing it and was shocked (plus she knew I had plenty of money lol) and then she got less worried about it and was happy when we strolled through the door with the unpaid for ice. I was just thinking fuck it, I've spent so much here these last several months, I'm not paying for these bags of frozen water.
That said, food scarcity or food deserts are a real thing and a complicated phenomenon. There is a lot of research out there on the topic for anyone who wants to open Google and do a bit of searching.
Look, I'm really not trying to be argumentative, but again, where? Why can't anyone who makes this claim point to a single example?
I'll tell you why, which is because it's a manufactured problem. The definition of a "food desert" in an urban area is essentially any area in which a decent grocery store can not be found within walking distance. If we applied this same absurd definition to people living in the suburbs, most of the country would be considered a "feed desert."
I've read several articles on this and South L.A. is the most commonly cited area that I've seen. Apparently we can't expect our urban poor to get on a 15-20 minute bus to Aldi, a Food4Less or one of the multiple Target Grocery stores to get their kids good stuff. We also can't expect them to go to one of the large number of food pantries which provide fresh produce or sign up for one of the food pantry delivery services (yes this is a thing in S. L.A.). We also can't expect them to be able to cook their own food.
So instead the most we can expect from a single mother hood rat is for her to walk across the street and use her EBT card at McDonalds for herself and her kids. Btw one of the worst things that even happened for these kids IMO is allowing EBT cards to be used at fast food joints. Just sayin.
Just ridiculous.
There is lots to read on it, if you care to.
https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/f…
But this thread isn't about poor people who will or won't walk a Rick-approved distance to get food. Its about a guy who thinks nothing of dropping $1000 on air dances one day and stealing organic groceries to "stick it to the man" the next. Which is lame by any definition.
Btw, Food deserts are not limited to urban areas: https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/f….
Yes and the definition is ridiculous. No wonder illegal immigrants make fun of our home grown poor, who they generally consider to be lazy and useless.
Anyways. I've noticed a lot less customers at stores and shelves going empty.
Wrt people in inner cities suffering, a lot of these people are like icee, they’d rob you, rape you and beat you any chance theyd get. Wear a nice watch or drive a nice car in front of them and theyll salivate at the thought of robbing you. Talk a little trash to them and they’ll shoot you, cause they’ve often got nothing to lose.
Wrt other people stealing in self checkout, im rarely if ever paying attention to what other customers are doing. It would require focusing on them and noting what they’re scanning or not scanning- would be hard to do unless you’re in line watching them. While it’s always good to try to reduce thievery, its not my responsibility to watch the self checkout lanes in a store- the store should have cameras and people dedicated to this. Additionally if the thief catches you snitching on them, they may just attack you or rob you once you leave the store. So you’re looking at potential hassle for protecting property that isn’t your own.
There are situations that could justify stealing groceries- but they wouldn’t justify stealing high quality organic or other high end groceries.