Why would any man want that? I would think most men want fun and maybe sex from strippers, and love and families from civvies. The two goals are totally different.
Unless you're so cheap that you get off on landing free sw pussy?
Icee that “conquest” you speak of would only apply to an extremely strict non extras stripper. How many strippers does that apply to? The one you were with apparently did lots of otc, so there was no conquest there.
@cmi: “ But most guys don't walk into a strip club looking for a love story”
Agreed.
Moreover, if most guys did walk into a sc looking for love, there wouldn’t be any strip clubs. The fringe view of sc as dating pool exists (icey isn’t the first person I’ve met who hangs out in sc’s and dates strippers), but it could only exist in the context of the other 99.9% of guys who walk into sc’s looking to pay to see naked women, get lap dances, extras, etc. This is what generates enough money to keep the girls coming back.
^ he doesn’t really date anyone he’s too busy telling all of us what we don’t know I doubt he’s any different in person, do you think anyone normal could tolerate being around an idiot like Iceefag for more than a few brief moments at best.
"Do the things that strippers do with PLs make them non-marriage/love material?" ...for most men yes.
Then, don't those things also make PLs non-marriage/love material?" ...ask a PL, there's plenty on tuscl. You should start a thread, I'd guess that most would say no.
According to iceydougster the key to making a stripper fall in love with you has evolved just like his screen names have.
When he posted as dougster the key was calling them 'lying thieving whores' now that he's posting as iceyboi the key is calling them 'stripper hoes'.
Ilbbaicnl has same views as icee, no doubt why both accounts are operated by same person. Anyways, this is as usual Icee pooplops troll posts. Discussion Closed. ClOSED.
If you look down on them. Yet partake in a forum where men obsess over them catch feelings and save up to see them that's on you.
My ex is begging me to take her back.
A porn star stripper hoe has feelings for me
I spent new years day with a 19 year old girl. We went to eat and checked out an outdoor mall type place and I asked her if she wants anything. She complained it waS all too expensive there. They're normal girls when you get to know them as such.
I know strippers happy with smoking weed getting tacos and having sex. Girls men on here would pay just to touch.
@ilb once again with a pointless off topic debate. The first couple times I bit, but now I know that you're not interested in the topic or a discussion, you're interested in silly word games. Maybe you can get someone else to engage you. Best of luck.
W.r.t. gettinng off on free SW pussy, it is exactly that. He can go around saying “i get free sex from a girl who guys pay $300+ an hour for sex”.
But he also pulled what he accuses others of, paying to support his lomls parents while saying its not p4p he’s paying because he loves her
In my experience, a civvie is more likely to have....
* a more stable / less crazy life, job, and associates
* a professional career
* less emotional damage from their work
* a college education
* less substance abuse issues
...than a girl who is currently dancing, obviously there are exceptions, and a girl who used to dance is a different matter. These are qualities I value in a partner, and many civvies would fall short here as well. I think many men hold similar views.
Fwiw I couldn't care less how many dicks a girl has had stuck into her, but many men would hold this against a dancer.
The two characters present vastly different qualifications for vastly different roles. One is not "better" than the other, but each makes an unlikely candidate for the other's role.
I haven't seen that much of a difference when it comes to substance abuse. And dancers aren't any more or less promiscuous than cicvvies.
I couldn't care less about her having a college degree. I know too many stupid people with them.
Trauma from her job is a huge thing though. You have to approach these girls differently. Make them feel very safe. Accept them as they are. Not try to change them
I’m sure they’re good for plenty of things besides a fuck. Several women I know who are my age and were dancers long ago went on to be exactly the kind of compelling women I describe above. But in the singular context that I meet dancers today, ie a sc/brothel, sex is what they’re doing.
There’s also the significant aspect of age. I wouldn’t want to be partners with a woman 1/2 or 1/3 my age. It would be very uninteresting the 99% of time that we are not fucking. Then again, a 50+ stripper doesn’t sound too appealing on any front. And of course the major impediment of me being old and uninteresting to them.
It’s best that we have a common ground and understanding: their bodies and boundaries, my money. I don’t have to deal with their drama, they don’t have to hear me farting and snoring at night. Win-win!
And btw, here in sc/brothel land the dancers are way more promiscuous than civvies. They’re fucking random for a living, not just for kicks on a Friday night.
Younger Millennials and Zoomers have no concept of love. They have no interest or it or even understanding of the concept. Most strippers today are from those age groups, so they aren't looking for love anywhere much less at their job conning men out of money. We could debate endlessly why those generations lost the concept of love but the reality is that the majority of people under 30 today don't even believe it exists.
Pimps, drug addicted coworkers, workplace fistfights, men who don't respect their boundaries, sexual assault, wildly inconsistent pay, societal disapproval, family ostracization, guilt, harassment from cops, dwindling assets, and repeatedly getting touched out. I guess the last has to do with oxytocin, but its common in mothers... too much physical touch drains something in women and for a while they don't want to be touched at all after that.
I think extras, and however a dancer defines them, probably exacerbate the above. Depending on the dancer.
Drew. That makes sense. Sometimes I get really turned on by older slutty women like the 50 year Olds with fake tits but wouldn't want a relationship with one. I think I'm just too used to strippers. I've known a lot before they became strippers. I've always had things in common with them. The drama is the down side. They tend to be so short term oriented they end up in really messed up situations.
And the trauma is a huge thing. So many girls have to decompress after work. Take a shower and don't want to be touched at all. And many can't do the job sober. They take rejection very personally even if they don't show it. It's fast money but definitely not easy money.
Dave. Today's society is so fake that young people desperately crave love and a human connection. Young girls catch feelings really easily and fall hard.
Icee likes to find a professional girlfriend with emotional problems. He then cleans out his wallet mooning after her and she dumps him. He then fails in a suicide attempt because let's face it, he's fucking stupid, a loser and cannot do the simplest thing right. Icee is the person sitting on the sidealk urinating on himself outside the Golden Nugget in 5 years.
@drew you undy-twist about me responding to a tangent that you started, and you look down on strippers for participating in the same activity you do. You're very consistent in being a hypocrite. But I suppose it's no surprise you respond like a stupid asshole when it's pointed out you're being a stupid asshole.
Spoiler Alert: OP's supposed "key" is stating the obvious for most women anyway. This is not rocket science. Provide a woman something deeper than just physical and make her feel safe with you. No shit, Captain Obvious!
The thing is these girls are so used to being around fakeness they desperately crave something real. They'll fall for you harder than civvies. Also when they do they try to be as unlike their stripper persona as possible
@icey: "they desperately crave something real. They'll fall for you harder than civvies".
That sounds plausible. But it brings me back to square one: knowing the damage (skip the other points for moment) they come with, and it seems like you do, why? Aren't there any hot dirty 30ish civvies available? Finding a partner who is solid from an emotional, financial, health, mental health, etc perspective is hard enough in the general population.
Drew. I think young women are very damaged in general. Poor coping skills and a culture of instant gratification. Glorifying excess in every way. Abuse being normalized and it being cute to be toxic. Then reality hits.
I think I'm just used to dancers. But finding something real in the unlikeliest most toxic environment hits different. I like the intensity of relationships with them. The way they tend to appreciate things civvies take for granted. How when they have feelings they act like the opposite of their stripper persona. Trust and vulnerability from them means something.
I see them as girls who work as dancers. Their job doesn't define every aspect of them. And of course there are types i stay away from. Just as I would with civvies.
LOL Iceydodo you like their dependency on you for drugs. And you equate this as "love". And now you are so far down the RIL trick bitch path that you can't see you're just a trick on another level. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
I’m trying to imagine the conversation
“Yo stripper hoe get over here you little bitch”
“ oh Iceefag you make me feel so safe when you talk like that”
LULZ
29fag. You don't get out much. And you definitely don't spend time with young people. And you've never known stripper hoes as anything more than a trick
Iceefag
You're impressively stupid, you've made so many totally unfounded speculative remarks about me and others, all completely wide of the mark, leads me to conclude that you are a sick jealous fool, who enjoys being miserable. A smart move for you would be to seek some help, you obviously need it, it's become quite clear that you are projecting your own sickness.
Til then keep ignoring me like your kids ignore you. And keep pretending you're a millionaire while you swig whiskey and troll tuscl all day. How hurry and write another troll post senile bitch
Iceefag
I wouldn't I told you I'll be there on the 27th just let me know where you hang out and I'll be there looking for a sad looking cosplay pimp, with legal papers written in crayon on construction paper, until then you can easily ignore me you whiny cosplay pimp, smoke a little more meth, maybe OD on some fentanyl, and hang with your posse, you know el triste, trap baby, and phat boi hell, dougie, and the rest of your cosplay and cartoon characters.
You are delusional and projecting, keep my name out of your postings, what the fuck is wrong with you, the incessant attacks are all on you.
This stems from your neglected childhood, when the only time you ever got any attention was when you acted out, it's not hard to figure out, you know you'll never get attention for doing something positive, because you never do anything positive, so in order to satisfy your cravings for attention, you pick fights with everyone, that's the only way a loser like you ever gets any attention paid to them.
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Unless you're so cheap that you get off on landing free sw pussy?
Stripper hoes aren't more fucked up than civvies.
Agreed.
Moreover, if most guys did walk into a sc looking for love, there wouldn’t be any strip clubs. The fringe view of sc as dating pool exists (icey isn’t the first person I’ve met who hangs out in sc’s and dates strippers), but it could only exist in the context of the other 99.9% of guys who walk into sc’s looking to pay to see naked women, get lap dances, extras, etc. This is what generates enough money to keep the girls coming back.
Remember that applying rules to others that you don't apply to yourself makes you a fool as well as an asshole.
"Do the things that strippers do with PLs make them non-marriage/love material?" ...for most men yes.
Then, don't those things also make PLs non-marriage/love material?" ...ask a PL, there's plenty on tuscl. You should start a thread, I'd guess that most would say no.
"Fool, asshole" ...sticks and stones, ilb! 😉
can lead to trouble...
When he posted as dougster the key was calling them 'lying thieving whores' now that he's posting as iceyboi the key is calling them 'stripper hoes'.
My ex is begging me to take her back.
A porn star stripper hoe has feelings for me
I spent new years day with a 19 year old girl. We went to eat and checked out an outdoor mall type place and I asked her if she wants anything. She complained it waS all too expensive there. They're normal girls when you get to know them as such.
I know strippers happy with smoking weed getting tacos and having sex. Girls men on here would pay just to touch.
Yeah that's an ego trip.
You might as well brag about your skill at tiddlywinks, for all we care.
I also love picking girls up at grocery stores.
Sometimes I like ghetto shit like drinking and smoking weed outside 7 11 during the summer and I've picked up girls like that lulz
Is that before or after you steal from the produce section?
But he also pulled what he accuses others of, paying to support his lomls parents while saying its not p4p he’s paying because he loves her
In my experience, a civvie is more likely to have....
* a more stable / less crazy life, job, and associates
* a professional career
* less emotional damage from their work
* a college education
* less substance abuse issues
...than a girl who is currently dancing, obviously there are exceptions, and a girl who used to dance is a different matter. These are qualities I value in a partner, and many civvies would fall short here as well. I think many men hold similar views.
Fwiw I couldn't care less how many dicks a girl has had stuck into her, but many men would hold this against a dancer.
The two characters present vastly different qualifications for vastly different roles. One is not "better" than the other, but each makes an unlikely candidate for the other's role.
I couldn't care less about her having a college degree. I know too many stupid people with them.
Trauma from her job is a huge thing though. You have to approach these girls differently. Make them feel very safe. Accept them as they are. Not try to change them
The women a man fucks are a direct reflection of him though
There’s also the significant aspect of age. I wouldn’t want to be partners with a woman 1/2 or 1/3 my age. It would be very uninteresting the 99% of time that we are not fucking. Then again, a 50+ stripper doesn’t sound too appealing on any front. And of course the major impediment of me being old and uninteresting to them.
It’s best that we have a common ground and understanding: their bodies and boundaries, my money. I don’t have to deal with their drama, they don’t have to hear me farting and snoring at night. Win-win!
Pimps, drug addicted coworkers, workplace fistfights, men who don't respect their boundaries, sexual assault, wildly inconsistent pay, societal disapproval, family ostracization, guilt, harassment from cops, dwindling assets, and repeatedly getting touched out. I guess the last has to do with oxytocin, but its common in mothers... too much physical touch drains something in women and for a while they don't want to be touched at all after that.
I think extras, and however a dancer defines them, probably exacerbate the above. Depending on the dancer.
And the trauma is a huge thing. So many girls have to decompress after work. Take a shower and don't want to be touched at all. And many can't do the job sober. They take rejection very personally even if they don't show it. It's fast money but definitely not easy money.
Dave. Today's society is so fake that young people desperately crave love and a human connection. Young girls catch feelings really easily and fall hard.
Icees response was save up and buy what you can afford
In his mind this was “advice” lulz
Just like the coke junkie stripper whore that dumped Iceydodo. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
That sounds plausible. But it brings me back to square one: knowing the damage (skip the other points for moment) they come with, and it seems like you do, why? Aren't there any hot dirty 30ish civvies available? Finding a partner who is solid from an emotional, financial, health, mental health, etc perspective is hard enough in the general population.
Whats the attraction?
>>Whats the attraction?
Yep we get it the key to making bitches fall in love with you is calling them stripper hoes, what woman wouldn't fall for such sweet talker .
LULZ
I think I'm just used to dancers. But finding something real in the unlikeliest most toxic environment hits different. I like the intensity of relationships with them. The way they tend to appreciate things civvies take for granted. How when they have feelings they act like the opposite of their stripper persona. Trust and vulnerability from them means something.
I see them as girls who work as dancers. Their job doesn't define every aspect of them. And of course there are types i stay away from. Just as I would with civvies.
20fag... have you ever heard young girls talk?
“Yo stripper hoe get over here you little bitch”
“ oh Iceefag you make me feel so safe when you talk like that”
LULZ
Coke Junkie Stripper Whore: "Ooh baby that's so thoughtful. I 'love' you."
🤭🤡😂😂😂
And his ex supposedly is begging him to take her back
You're impressively stupid, you've made so many totally unfounded speculative remarks about me and others, all completely wide of the mark, leads me to conclude that you are a sick jealous fool, who enjoys being miserable. A smart move for you would be to seek some help, you obviously need it, it's become quite clear that you are projecting your own sickness.
Til then keep ignoring me like your kids ignore you. And keep pretending you're a millionaire while you swig whiskey and troll tuscl all day. How hurry and write another troll post senile bitch
I wouldn't I told you I'll be there on the 27th just let me know where you hang out and I'll be there looking for a sad looking cosplay pimp, with legal papers written in crayon on construction paper, until then you can easily ignore me you whiny cosplay pimp, smoke a little more meth, maybe OD on some fentanyl, and hang with your posse, you know el triste, trap baby, and phat boi hell, dougie, and the rest of your cosplay and cartoon characters.
You're more than welcome to stop trolling me. Harassing me. But that's why you post here.
The ignore works both ways, why don’t you try it yourself, like your parents did with you
Your post claiming you never lie about anything is laughable. It sounds insane
Same with your “save up and buy what you can afford” post.
Pot, meet kettle. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
This stems from your neglected childhood, when the only time you ever got any attention was when you acted out, it's not hard to figure out, you know you'll never get attention for doing something positive, because you never do anything positive, so in order to satisfy your cravings for attention, you pick fights with everyone, that's the only way a loser like you ever gets any attention paid to them.
a reminder of what a lowlife POS Iceefag
See you jn vegas senile bitch