In South Florida the clubs are loaded with latinas and so is Atlanta. What is going on? Where did all the American girls go? Is there some kind of cuban organization making offers to clubs they can't refuse?
Yeah those girls certainly aren't acting alone. Now your even see them up as far into the Midwest in some places. I guess you would expect it in Florida but Texas too I mean Cubans might be a plurality of dancers in Texas at least in the big cities. I do think some of them look real good but a lot of guys on here just won't even deal with them anymore. The Aye Papi cuban rubber doll thing does get repetitive after a while.
As Muddy said, I'm not a big fan of the Cuban girls. Mostly because they tend to hang out in groups and break off once in a while to approach you. That being said, there is one Cuban I do extras with in the Tampa area but she is not one to hang in a group and doesn't do the whole Cuban approach.
Try not to generalize but the Cubans tend to have the same act so they make it too easy to generalize.
Although they no longer get in automatically as they once did, it seems Cubans still get preferential treatment in being legally admitted to the US. But, for some reason, they generally seem to go to Mexico first, and often spend a while (work) there, before coming to the US. Some of them annoy me, some I just don't click with, and some I do click with. Just like with strippers in general. I recommend Lisa at Chicas Bonitas in Vegas, Nicole at Club 390 in Chicago Heights, and a lot of the Cubanas at Vivide in Atlanta.
I think a lot of the girls you guts think are Cuban are Venezuelan, Chilean and Peruvian, that have been coached to say Cuban because the Cubans tend to be granted status and allowed to remain here as many of those others are trying to fly under the radar so to speak, and not attract any unwanted scrutiny.
There is an abundance of them at Vivide in Atlanta. I get dances from a few of them that are pretty good. Their dance tactic is to get you worked up enough to want to go to VIP with them. So far I have balked at doing VIP with any of them because of the language barrier. Yeah I know about Google translate but I rarely take my cell phone into the club and I don't want to looking at my damn phone while engaged in amorous situations. The ones that I do turn down for dances usually leave me alone after that.
On the other hand if you are a young dude that just wants a quick romp in VIP for 10 minutes and have a condom, there are plenty to be had for $200 for 30 minutes and $50 to the house.
===> "I think a lot of the girls you guts think are Cuban are Venezuelan, Chilean and Peruvian, that have been coached to say Cuban..."
Maybe and I understand why they'd lie to Immigration, but I don't know why they would bother with a club customer. But even if this was true, they act like the Cuban girls, which is really all that matters.
It's like when we call an EEU girl who works in one of the northeast strip clubs "Russian." Truth be told there are often girls from places like Ukraine and Latvia sprinkled in with the Russians. Once I even met one with Asian features hailing from Kazakhstan. But they were all speaking Russian, traveling to the clubs together and otherwise behaving in a similar manner, so we just called them the Russian girls.
^ I don't think it's about lying to club customers I believe It's just to avoid scrutiny, could be the club operators have some concerns about being legal to work, and in Florida, as well as many other red states there are idiots abundant, that will rat them out for a myriad of reasons, including there are cash rewards paid by DHS, and various state agencies, for criminal violations of both tax and resident alien laws.
I don't mind the Cuban girls so much. The language barrier is a significant impediment to the style of clubbing where you hang out, have a few drinks, and maybe wax poetic. That is something I do enjoy, so obviously I won't choose a Cuban for that. But, the Cubans tend to be pretty open minded about sex and exchanging it for money. Their transient nature does mean there is a slightly higher ROB or hustle factor, but I find its easier to spot in them due to the language barrier and the immediate nature of their scams. Maybe it's just me, but I'm much more susceptible to a long con from a local girl than the lame scams the Cuban girls try to run.
But for regular dances/rooms, or even OTC. There's a handful of Cuban girls at the two clubs I visit most frequently that treat me as good or better than their local born counter parts. I find little reason to differentiate between the various Latina subcultures or nationalities, from a stripper perspective they're similar enough in the ways that matter to me. My last fave was a Cuban that crossed the border into Texas from Mexico. She was granted asylum and wound up in some midwest state for about 9 months, then moved to Hialeah as soon as she got her work permit and drivers license. She had been stripping both in Texas and whatever Midwest state she was in up there too. She was great, only reason we stopped was because she found an American born dude of Cuban descent and got married, which was what she said she hoped to do. She just sent me a picture of her baby bump a couple weeks ago. I think I found a replacement, who is also Cuban, and very much a pleaser in the back room. I haven't asked her about OTC yet, but I will soon.
I have had mixed encounters Cubans, some great, some not so great. But Dolfan is right, the real Robs are fairly easy to spot. The language barrier helps me in a lot of situations where there body language gives off enough information for me to determine that they are not worth investing time or money on. It’s not fool proof, but I’d say the vast majority of the time helpful.
A lot of trafficking is involved. Cubans hang out in groups when they don't speak English. A girl will translate and help them out for $. Many are promised hobs and trafficked from Cuba to work clubs here.
I found the lying about where they are from goes the opposite direction. Met a Cuban girl in FL two weeks ago who said she tells customers she’s from Colombia because guys get turned off by Cubans. 🤷♀️ I find latinas beautiful. If I’m attracted and they are down for some fun, idgaf where they are from.
For better or worse, the night shift here in southern California has been taken over by Mexicans and other South Americans.
I suspect immigrants and their families are feeling the pinch of the starting recession first. Cute white girls also may be going with OF and sugaring?
I’m a Cuban-guy from Miami but I've been in the U.S. since I was 9 and don’t really have too-much interaction w/ the recent-arrival-community so IDK exactly what the deal is and why the explosion of Cuban-dancers.
I grew in Miami and currently live-here; but I lived ~10-yrs in Dallas from 2000 - ~2010 – it was in Dallas where I picked-up the SC-hobby/habit and in all-my-time there I don’t recall ever meeting a Cuban-dancer (I can often spot them just by looking at them and their mannerisms; and def if I hear them speaking the unique Cuban (kinda ghetto) Spanish) – not only did I not meet any Cuban dancer in my time in Dallas in the 2000s; but I hardly ran into another Cuban person (there wasn’t a Cuban community where Cubans would live; hang; etc) – in my time in Dallas in the 2000s, there wasn’t even a single Cuban restaurant (now per Yelp there are about 10).
The Cuban-dancer-invasion seemed to kinda come out of nowhere – even in Miami back-in-the-day (80s; 90s; 2000s); there was a mix of white-American, and Cuban-dancers that had been born and/or raised here; even in Miami back-in-the-day, the SCs were not as dominated by recent-Cubana-arrivals (back in the day there were also much less fewer Cubans in others parts of SoFlo not Miami (e.g. Ft Lauderdale; West Palm Beach; etc) and thus in other parts of SoFlo whitegirls were often the majority in clubs).
I joined TUSCL in early-2012 and I guess it was sometime around 2015-or-so when I started reading reports of Cuban dancers (plural) in clubs in other states; which took me by surprise.
Seems something happened that triggered this sudden explosion of Cuban-dancers. Although I used to club a lot; Cuban-dancers were not my thing; and I was also not the type to have fave-dancers that I could talk to and find stuff out; thus I never really inquired w/ Cuban-dancers I have gotten dances from in the past as to why there are so many of them now and all over the country.
Q: Why are there so many Cuban dancers everywhere?
A: Because, he impact of US sanctions (American Embargo) has continuously inflicted serious harm on the Cuban economy for many years now.
Because of the “American Embargo” on Cuba poor men women and children are lured to the USA using the false globalized propaganda that makes them believe the U. S. Is the land of economic opportunity.
Criminal mafias, from the USA, profit by smuggling young women into the United States then forcing them into sex work.
The criminals have for years recruited women in Cuba with the promise of passage to the United States, offered to transport the women for a $20,000 fee. which the girls would pay off through jobs, however the jobs are as strippers, and their “management fees”would increase the debt to $55,000 and force them into prostitution to pay it off.
Many naive immigrants like the Cuban girls and other men women and children produce billions of dollars in revenue every year by being exploited and abused in America by American Businesses with the complicity of American Criminals.
It is the “American Way” of profiting by victimizing millions of vulnerable people and making them into slaves.
A person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person.
The Cuban girls are literally kidnapped and turned into slaves…
Surprised I havent seen this take. What if the majority of american girls arent as attracted to dancing anymore? Many have learned how to work online (e.g. onlyfans and camming) to make a lot more money. Instagram is also a huge hidden market for young american girls today. Some use it to find clients for OTC while many clients are simply happy to pay these girls gifts for posting a few sexy photos.
Sitting in a club for hours, drinking, and pretending to be interested in older guys doesn't exactly get American girls excited today. We dont have many cuban girls up north, but a lot of clubs here are full of latin americans fresh off the boat. They migrate to dancing because its a quick way to make money before getting their greencard or get themselves situated before they find a husband. As soon as they get the greencard or husband like american girls they dissapear to find different careers or sit at home.
The few americans left are in and out of the business in a few months.
While there is trafficking I dont think its as prevalent in dancing. Exploiting women are forced into OTC prostitution where the return on investment is a lot higher. Girls drawn to dancing tend to use their income for lavish trips and gifts.
My take? Just be happy you have some attractive latinas to sit barside and grind on you no matter what you look or smell like for a reasonable price.
I’m glad the Cuban girls are here. If they weren’t, we’d be watching a couple of old, fat white ladies work the pole.
I’ve often wondered where all these girls come from. What does it look like back in Cuba? I can’t believe there are towns full of smoking hot, scantily clad girls just walking around.
I didn't realized how much I love Cubans until I started to go to the FL clubs. So, for me the more the merrier and while they tend to be very loud, a Cuban dancer with natural assets works for me. Off course, the language barrier is a challenged, but thank god for Steve Jobs and Google Translate, it's no longer an issue.
I've spoken to a few of these Cubans and have asked the same question...many don't say much, but a few that recently started dancing and have only been in the US for 1 or 2 months, mentioned that they have no choice but to work as a dancer to pay back the debt from migrating from Cuba to Mexico to US. One told me that she had to pay $15k in 3 months, but she didn't mentioned who she had to pay back. Given the state of Cuba, i wouldn't be surprised that many are in similar situation.
As for them being at other states outside of FL, a few told me that they had to work in TX and GA during the pandemic, as those states opened up the clubs sooner than FL clubs. Also, many of the FL clubs have too many dancers, so it's tough to make good money with so much competition, and they figured it would be easier to go out of state temporarily. I met a few in the Tampa Bay area, which i recognized had worked in SoFL. I recalled my last visit in Tampa and Clearwater, and spoke with an american dancer in both area....and they can't stand it that there is so many Cubans that are working in their clubs. So, i suspect many give up, as the Cubans are taking their customers and get out of the business
BTW - I noticed that you can spot a Cuban dancer by the way they straddle the pole with their arm, as they all do it.
The cubans, Venezuelans, and Brazilians enjoy what they do. In my experience, I've had better experiences with them vs American girls who try to upsell for "more fun".
In my opinion, more of them are coming into clubs because they know American men are horny and sex-starved. These women have seen and heard all the stories. Some of you are older,but I can tell you from first hand experience alot of younger American women hate the idea of having sex for money,not because its degrading,but they genuinely hate men because patriarchy. Just head over to the pink website and see all the venom they direct at the men, the latinas don't care they will fuck you with a smile.
Avoid puerto ricans or Dominicans who have been here too long,they tend to be ROBs
I do wonder what it is that has brought so man Cubans to strip clubs. Does anyone remember a Eastern Europe wave of strippers in the 2000s? I saw them in Champaign, IL. They were mostly Lithuanian, then Latvian and maybe Polish or true Russian, then Ukranian and lastly Czech. For the Eastern-Euro wave, I chalked it up to newly liberalization of their local governments and easier immigration. I also saw a bunch of these girls in porn (mostly Czech, which made me think the hottest of these girls were Czech).
With (somewhat) improved relations with Cuba and this time lack of immigration control, maybe that's why we're seeing more Cubans. At first, I thought these were light-skinned Mexicans, but they sound way different and they have that Cuban Barbie thing going on versus that Cholo-west coast thing.
I think US girls are trying to make it on OnlyFans is going to die down. The money on average is terrible, but I could see how it would supplement stripper income nicely. Also, the current administration's focus on pumping even more money into the economy is giving many of these girls a reason to stay home rather than go out and earn.
I've seen lots of Cubans at the Rhino in Vegas. They tend to walk around in groups of 3 and will form a circle around you and try to get you take all 3 of them to VIP.
A couple decades ago a lot of Cubans were ducking and got pregnant. Those babies free up in communism where currently about $50 US is a weeks wages which won't even cover rent. The US has a deal with Cuba to let Cubans stay here. Many of the babies grew up to be hot young women who figured out they can earn more than$50 a week dancing.
I don’t normally ask a dancer where she is from, so I can’t provide insight on the nationality of dancers I’ve enjoyed.
How can the OP know the cross section of dancers without inquiring with many of them?
I am not stirring up any argument here. I could easily think a dancer with an Eastern European accent is Russian, when she’s from another Eastern European country. I’d like to know how Cuban dancers stand out, as I might be making mistakes with other nationalities and they might actually be from Cuba.
About 20 years ago there was a whole lot of Cubans ducking. Some of these Cubans go pregnant. Half of these babies were girls. Lots of these girls grew to be strippers
Seems like most Cuban strippers came in through Mexico, I'm guessing illegally. So Biden just shut that down: https://apnews.com/article/biden-venezue… . I wonder if strip clubs can/will sponsor Cubanas to come in under the new rules.
There's no reason for a club to sponsor a stripper. Unless something has drastically changed that I didn't understand they aren't typically granted a work permit while their request is being processed or anything. It's not a H1B visa. In some cases the person can get a work permit and drivers license, but none of the girls have ever been able to explain why some can and others cant other than "el abogado de ella es mejor."
That said, some strippers sponsor others. I don't know how common it is, but I know a stripper who is currently sponsoring two other strippers at the club as well as her mom and step father. She herself snuck in, started stripping, made friends with a girl who agreed to sponsor her, then turned herself in. It took like 2 years for her to get processed, but once she was a legal permanent resident she was eligible to sponsor others. They use the word sponsor, but as far as I can tell you just have to prove you have room for them in your house and can feed them and stuff.
As far as knowing the girls are strippers, they tell you. I don't know if the clubs around here have like an "Intro to Stripping for Immigrants" video they make them watch or what, but when the girls start they all have the same routine. They introduce themselves and ask your name, then ask where you are from, and then tell you they are from Cuba. Then there seem to be options, some will ask if you speaki Spani, want a dance, or in some clubs they may grab your cock and say blow yob or ruum? It doesn't matter what your answers are or if you reciprocate the questions or not. She'll continue with the script regardless. If you answer in Spanish she'll deviate and talk to you, but otherwise that's how it'll go 95% of the time.
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Try not to generalize but the Cubans tend to have the same act so they make it too easy to generalize.
On the other hand if you are a young dude that just wants a quick romp in VIP for 10 minutes and have a condom, there are plenty to be had for $200 for 30 minutes and $50 to the house.
Maybe and I understand why they'd lie to Immigration, but I don't know why they would bother with a club customer. But even if this was true, they act like the Cuban girls, which is really all that matters.
It's like when we call an EEU girl who works in one of the northeast strip clubs "Russian." Truth be told there are often girls from places like Ukraine and Latvia sprinkled in with the Russians. Once I even met one with Asian features hailing from Kazakhstan. But they were all speaking Russian, traveling to the clubs together and otherwise behaving in a similar manner, so we just called them the Russian girls.
But for regular dances/rooms, or even OTC. There's a handful of Cuban girls at the two clubs I visit most frequently that treat me as good or better than their local born counter parts. I find little reason to differentiate between the various Latina subcultures or nationalities, from a stripper perspective they're similar enough in the ways that matter to me. My last fave was a Cuban that crossed the border into Texas from Mexico. She was granted asylum and wound up in some midwest state for about 9 months, then moved to Hialeah as soon as she got her work permit and drivers license. She had been stripping both in Texas and whatever Midwest state she was in up there too. She was great, only reason we stopped was because she found an American born dude of Cuban descent and got married, which was what she said she hoped to do. She just sent me a picture of her baby bump a couple weeks ago. I think I found a replacement, who is also Cuban, and very much a pleaser in the back room. I haven't asked her about OTC yet, but I will soon.
After living in Florida for a while, it's easy to distinguish their country of origin BTW.
I suspect immigrants and their families are feeling the pinch of the starting recession first. Cute white girls also may be going with OF and sugaring?
We obviously don't get Cubans here.
I grew in Miami and currently live-here; but I lived ~10-yrs in Dallas from 2000 - ~2010 – it was in Dallas where I picked-up the SC-hobby/habit and in all-my-time there I don’t recall ever meeting a Cuban-dancer (I can often spot them just by looking at them and their mannerisms; and def if I hear them speaking the unique Cuban (kinda ghetto) Spanish) – not only did I not meet any Cuban dancer in my time in Dallas in the 2000s; but I hardly ran into another Cuban person (there wasn’t a Cuban community where Cubans would live; hang; etc) – in my time in Dallas in the 2000s, there wasn’t even a single Cuban restaurant (now per Yelp there are about 10).
The Cuban-dancer-invasion seemed to kinda come out of nowhere – even in Miami back-in-the-day (80s; 90s; 2000s); there was a mix of white-American, and Cuban-dancers that had been born and/or raised here; even in Miami back-in-the-day, the SCs were not as dominated by recent-Cubana-arrivals (back in the day there were also much less fewer Cubans in others parts of SoFlo not Miami (e.g. Ft Lauderdale; West Palm Beach; etc) and thus in other parts of SoFlo whitegirls were often the majority in clubs).
I joined TUSCL in early-2012 and I guess it was sometime around 2015-or-so when I started reading reports of Cuban dancers (plural) in clubs in other states; which took me by surprise.
Seems something happened that triggered this sudden explosion of Cuban-dancers. Although I used to club a lot; Cuban-dancers were not my thing; and I was also not the type to have fave-dancers that I could talk to and find stuff out; thus I never really inquired w/ Cuban-dancers I have gotten dances from in the past as to why there are so many of them now and all over the country.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
Q: Why are there so many Cuban dancers everywhere?
A: Because, he impact of US sanctions (American Embargo) has continuously inflicted serious harm on the Cuban economy for many years now.
Because of the “American Embargo” on Cuba poor men women and children are lured to the USA using the false globalized propaganda that makes them believe the U. S. Is the land of economic opportunity.
Criminal mafias, from the USA, profit by smuggling young women into the United States then forcing them into sex work.
The criminals have for years recruited women in Cuba with the promise of passage to the United States, offered to transport the women for a $20,000 fee. which the girls would pay off through jobs, however the jobs are as strippers, and their “management fees”would increase the debt to $55,000 and force them into prostitution to pay it off.
Many naive immigrants like the Cuban girls and other men women and children produce billions of dollars in revenue every year by being exploited and abused in America by American Businesses with the complicity of American Criminals.
It is the “American Way” of profiting by victimizing millions of vulnerable people and making them into slaves.
A person who is forced to work for and obey another and is considered to be their property; an enslaved person.
The Cuban girls are literally kidnapped and turned into slaves…
Sitting in a club for hours, drinking, and pretending to be interested in older guys doesn't exactly get American girls excited today. We dont have many cuban girls up north, but a lot of clubs here are full of latin americans fresh off the boat. They migrate to dancing because its a quick way to make money before getting their greencard or get themselves situated before they find a husband. As soon as they get the greencard or husband like american girls they dissapear to find different careers or sit at home.
The few americans left are in and out of the business in a few months.
While there is trafficking I dont think its as prevalent in dancing. Exploiting women are forced into OTC prostitution where the return on investment is a lot higher. Girls drawn to dancing tend to use their income for lavish trips and gifts.
My take? Just be happy you have some attractive latinas to sit barside and grind on you no matter what you look or smell like for a reasonable price.
I’ve often wondered where all these girls come from. What does it look like back in Cuba? I can’t believe there are towns full of smoking hot, scantily clad girls just walking around.
I've spoken to a few of these Cubans and have asked the same question...many don't say much, but a few that recently started dancing and have only been in the US for 1 or 2 months, mentioned that they have no choice but to work as a dancer to pay back the debt from migrating from Cuba to Mexico to US. One told me that she had to pay $15k in 3 months, but she didn't mentioned who she had to pay back. Given the state of Cuba, i wouldn't be surprised that many are in similar situation.
As for them being at other states outside of FL, a few told me that they had to work in TX and GA during the pandemic, as those states opened up the clubs sooner than FL clubs. Also, many of the FL clubs have too many dancers, so it's tough to make good money with so much competition, and they figured it would be easier to go out of state temporarily. I met a few in the Tampa Bay area, which i recognized had worked in SoFL. I recalled my last visit in Tampa and Clearwater, and spoke with an american dancer in both area....and they can't stand it that there is so many Cubans that are working in their clubs. So, i suspect many give up, as the Cubans are taking their customers and get out of the business
BTW - I noticed that you can spot a Cuban dancer by the way they straddle the pole with their arm, as they all do it.
Imagine going from being dirt poor to making 1k a night giving hj to slovenly old white guys.
They seem to travel to Miami every six months to get new tits
In my opinion, more of them are coming into clubs because they know American men are horny and sex-starved. These women have seen and heard all the stories. Some of you are older,but I can tell you from first hand experience alot of younger American women hate the idea of having sex for money,not because its degrading,but they genuinely hate men because patriarchy. Just head over to the pink website and see all the venom they direct at the men, the latinas don't care they will fuck you with a smile.
Avoid puerto ricans or Dominicans who have been here too long,they tend to be ROBs
With (somewhat) improved relations with Cuba and this time lack of immigration control, maybe that's why we're seeing more Cubans. At first, I thought these were light-skinned Mexicans, but they sound way different and they have that Cuban Barbie thing going on versus that Cholo-west coast thing.
I think US girls are trying to make it on OnlyFans is going to die down. The money on average is terrible, but I could see how it would supplement stripper income nicely. Also, the current administration's focus on pumping even more money into the economy is giving many of these girls a reason to stay home rather than go out and earn.
I've seen lots of Cubans at the Rhino in Vegas. They tend to walk around in groups of 3 and will form a circle around you and try to get you take all 3 of them to VIP.
How can the OP know the cross section of dancers without inquiring with many of them?
I am not stirring up any argument here. I could easily think a dancer with an Eastern European accent is Russian, when she’s from another Eastern European country. I’d like to know how Cuban dancers stand out, as I might be making mistakes with other nationalities and they might actually be from Cuba.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/10/world…
That said, some strippers sponsor others. I don't know how common it is, but I know a stripper who is currently sponsoring two other strippers at the club as well as her mom and step father. She herself snuck in, started stripping, made friends with a girl who agreed to sponsor her, then turned herself in. It took like 2 years for her to get processed, but once she was a legal permanent resident she was eligible to sponsor others. They use the word sponsor, but as far as I can tell you just have to prove you have room for them in your house and can feed them and stuff.
As far as knowing the girls are strippers, they tell you. I don't know if the clubs around here have like an "Intro to Stripping for Immigrants" video they make them watch or what, but when the girls start they all have the same routine. They introduce themselves and ask your name, then ask where you are from, and then tell you they are from Cuba. Then there seem to be options, some will ask if you speaki Spani, want a dance, or in some clubs they may grab your cock and say blow yob or ruum? It doesn't matter what your answers are or if you reciprocate the questions or not. She'll continue with the script regardless. If you answer in Spanish she'll deviate and talk to you, but otherwise that's how it'll go 95% of the time.