Banned from a club after being refunded for a ROB dance
rickmacrodong
Out of the 15 or so dancers I’ve worked with, only two were legit robs. A couple others tried a tip scam, claiming nonsense like 20% or 50% tipping is required. One of the dancers has a public tiktok where she has posts bragging about things like somehow frauding a customer out of $2000 via zelle, and other posts bragging about things like pouring champagne on someone for insulting her, tricking people into buying VIPs by saying she’ll go home with them after the club closes, etc.
I have never complained to the club about any of the ROBs or other issues, other than a couple months ago, I got such a horrible experience I had to complain. This club takes money up front for dances. I paid $200 up front for a dance with a dancer I had previously gotten a dance with a month or so before. The prior dance was fine although she did demand tips constantly.
This time though, she straight up didn’t perform any dance at all. Didn’t sit on me, didn’t take her top/dress off, and didn’t want me touching her anywhere. Just stood 3 feet in front of me scolding me. I had already paid $200, and she wanted me to pay an additional $50 before she would start dancing or take clothes off. I wasn’t rude or anything but refused to give additional money as I had already paid. She then spent the entire dance time scolding me for being cheap and not giving her more money, saying the club keeps the money I already paid, that it’s a job for her and she doesn’t like people like me who don’t give money, all sorts of nonsense.
I sent an email to management about it. They reviewed the available footage they had, told me the cameras in the actual booths don’t record so they couldn’t see the dance. But they took my word for it and said they would refund me. I was pretty happy as I thought management had taken my side. I recently went back to the club and they refunded me, but told me I was banned for life. Manager didn’t want to go into detail but said it’s a liability for them and they don’t want to take the risk. I’ve spent thousands, brought them thousands, but over $200 got banned.
Btw, they knew exactly which day i got a dance with the ROB because i told them and they reviewed the limited footage they had access to. The club only had my first name, yet when I went this time, after they scanned my ID in their system, they said there was a note there regarding me being banned and etc. they only had my first name, which means they actually went through the trouble to cross check their cameras from that day, locate me and the time I scanned my ID, and then note the ban details on my ID in their system. The cameras and first name was enough for them to find my exact ID and mark it in their system. They probably could have found the ID even without knowing my name, as long as they knew who to look for in the footage.
What exactly does the club mean regarding liabilities regarding my complaints? Is it because I claimed the dancer was a scammer, so that’s some sort of liability risk for them? I did use terminology like theft, fraud, and scamming when discussing that dancer with management.
Also, this club has dancers who offer extras, dancers who remove their pasties during dances, dancers who have threatened customers and also the prior dancer who makes public tiktoks bragging about how she scams customers.
Aren’t these all massive liabilities? Are there any risks to me personally if I mention these occurrences to management? They banned me over supposed liability risk for me claiming a dancer was a scammer, but I know for a fact they have extras dancers, dancers who threatened people or poured champagne over insults, etc.
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A shaky assumption, at *best*.
This never happened.
If this poster is real, and his club conduct is similar to his conduct on this site, then banning him for life seems like the best choice for the club and everyone involved.
He posts about going to a club that requires customers to prepay for dances. Then he complains and calls dancers ROBs because they don’t deliver what he thinks they should provide. But he doesn’t switch clubs? If this guy is real, then he’s already been banned from other clubs and this is the last one in his area that finally had enough of his stupid shit!
BigThirdEye is just cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it.
Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions.
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This was a newer dancer who started like 6 months ago.
I paid upfront, and she pulled a tip scam. She refused to take clothes off, refused to allow contact, Didnt do a lapdance, didn’t even do an airdance. The entire prepaid dance time was her scolding me over not giving her an additional $50 after I already paid $200. I did use terms like scammer and fraud when describing the incident to the club, and it looks like something I said made them think it’s a liability to allow me to continue coming to the club. The manager at the door mentioned it being a liability, and not worth tje risk. I have been to several other clubs I didn’t want to review because I didn’t want someone looking for me. I wouldn’t be able to post specific details if I name the club or dancers!
I didn’t ask the dancer for extras, wasn’t expecting extras. All i was looking for was a basic lapdance, which every other dancer at the club, even another rob has provided. This dancer was new, and from a foreign country, and pulled a scam far beyond what gets referred to as a ROB on here. It wasn’t like she offered extras and didnt follow through, she didnt even do a lapdance nor even an airdance.
Cash ive gotten a lot of good dances, this is one specific incident that I complained about, as mentioned, out of spending $5000 i complained once over a $200 dance.
Something in my wording made the club say it’s a liability and not worth the risk.
When i wrote a long initial complaint to management, I did also state in it that if a dancer pulled this sort of scam on me again, I would call the cops and report it as theft because that’s what it is. Maybe that was the part that made them concerned over risks and liabilities?
You got banned because you handled this like a pussy, and a potentially litigious one at that, instead of like a man. A man would have stood up, walked out and dealt with the issue in person, letting the shift manager know that you just paid $200 for a girl who refused to dance for you. The litigious pussy, OTOH, is the guy who instead runs home all butt hurt and starts working on a carefully worded email which talks about a scammer who needs training and calling the cops for theft.
I'm sure they ran this by the club's attorney, who no doubt told them to give your sissy ass the $200 back and then never let you in again. Duh.
You're welcome. 😉
Providing a written complaint to a strip club instead of dealing with the situation properly is a sad way for anyone to handle their strip club experience.
You should have taken Rick’s advice rather than acting like a scared little boy.
But, I doubt it’s possible for you to take Rick’s advice as I highly doubt you’ve ever been in a strip club.
If you are throwing around a number like $5,000 as clout, you aren’t going to be considered a big strip club spender.
What would happen it I told the manager they have dancers who remove pasties, who threatene customers, who provide extras, and who post public tiktoks bragging about scamming customers via zelle or pouring champagne customers?
Can I report the club to the cfpb, bbb, or ftc and get them shut down? They are doing illegal things after all as well as employing scammers, and even employing dancers who pour champagne on people and do zelle scams.
https://youtu.be/o9ZgnVb5Q7I
You acted like a baby, made a written complaint over a $200 dance, and now you can’t face reality and you won’t find another club.
The idea that you think spending $5,000 over 10 months in a strip club makes you a significant customer is also sad.
Find another club and move on.
Can I report the club to the cfpb, bbb, or ftc and get them shut down? They are doing illegal things after all as well as employing scammers, and even employing dancers who pour champagne on people and do zelle scams
As a rational actor amongst other humans you should have realized that they don't like you, and it's time to move on. You didn't, so they helped you to realize and move on by banning you. Another way to look at this is why on earth would you want to return to a place that treats customers this way?
I think that guy was too far out there to be a troll. However, with BTE the smell of troll is very strong.
The only reasons why you would have sent that type of email are because you are: (1) a Grade A pussy afraid to deal with things in person; (2) looking to start a documentation trail; or (3) both. They probably assumed both. 😆
So they gave you back the $200 so you'd have no claim to economic harm and banned you from the club so that you couldn't come back looking for some other grievance(s).
With that, troll Q&A time is over for me. If you need to figure any more of this out, as Winnie the Pooh often says, "Think, Think, Think." 😉
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78-4RobJ…
Icee so you think its fine to take customers money and not do a dance, not even an airdance. Its a hustle or finesse? Lol
The $200 os given to the manager, and after the dance time is up the dancer collects her cut from the manager
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As a rational actor amongst other humans you should have realized that they don't like you, and it's time to move on. You didn't, so they helped you to realize and move on by banning you. Another way to look at this is why on earth would you want to return to a place that treats customers this way?”
They were polite over email a couple months ago, they just told me i can ask for a manager to get the refund. I didn’t find out until recently, when i got the refund in person, that i am also banned. I previously thought they were doing the refund because i was somewhat of a regular and they wanted to continue to preserve the relationship. This was the only time ive complained to management about anything
While you're at it you might want to drop that "connoisseur" from your tagline to make it more technically accurate.
You obviously misread their tone.
They have a dancer who has bragged about finessing people via offering extras and not delivering , dancers offering extras, one who has threatened a customer
Arent these all big liabilities?
You have to look at it as caveat emptor, buyer beware, when you visit a strip club. The club owners try to treat customers fairly because they want repeat business but for many of the girls they will only be there a short time and don't care if you come back. I have my best experiences with long time regulars. That is one of the advantages of regulars. When I try a new girl, I know I'm taking a risk. I have had lots of bad experiences, but I accept that. I just never repeat with a girl I had a bad experience with. Most times the girl I had a bad experience with is not even still there when I go back.
BTE - take a minute and think before posting more drivel. The folks on this strip club website don’t believe your accusations regarding this club and the dancers. Do you think the police will believe you? Do you think civilians will believe a guy who posts under a name Big Third Eye as an asshole connoisseur - when you try to introduce your crap as evidence?
And that thought will sound something like "If I post this next stupid, made-up thing then I bet I can keep this thread going for another 10-15 posts."
And yes, I realize that I'm part of the problem this time. But I think we all (should) know that manipulating people into responding and treating the premise as if it's not a complete fiction is the OP's goal here.
And I suspect that there's a very good reason why Champphilly is the only one behaving as if this is a real thing...
Pasty rules aren’t followed by many.
Cash and Ish, if it was fake, or if i just wanted to get a dancer in trouble I would have posted names of the dancer and the club. Me not naming clubs or dancers shows it’s real. Its all factual.
And I don’t think things come down to he said she said and witnesses.
None of the dancers have dumped water on me. One dancer posts public videos bragging about pouring champagne, and scamming customers via zelle and also offering otc to someone if they buy vip. Its all public. Do the tiktok videos not count as evidence? The dancer proudly admits to doing all those things
More likely than not though it’s best to let it go and not fool with the dancer again. If it seems to be a problem at the club you find another club. Sometimes you’re going to have bad experiences but if you’re a regular you should start to develop relationships where you know you’ll be well treated and dancers are a lot less likely to rip off a regular.
That's why you're a liability. You didn't mention that detail initially. Sounds like you got ripped off by the dancer but (as another poster said) it would have been much better to bring this up in person immediately after it happened, not in email.
A lot of rude comments though from people who replied... sad. I guess they'd say "You moron, can't you see this guy's a troll?" I cannot, I don't follow this board so close like a soap opera lol.
Since pasties are mentioned above, sounds like the club is in Tennessee or Utah or some such place. Maybe local laws force clubs to use the escort dodge, that there is no contract for physical contact, only for the dancers time. So if a PL calls the cops and cries fraud because the club sold them a lap dance they didn't get (which, even if true, would be generally be a civil not criminal matter), the police might consider that evidence the club is breaking the law.
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