The Noble Pervert
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A recent thread posted by an obvious scam artist reminded me of this concept. This is when a guy who initially starts seeing a stripper for the usual reasons eventually decides that he wants to help her in some way. Maybe it could be something as simple as sharing his many years of worldly wisdom, but in some instances could also involve practical help like a place to stay or helping acquire emergency items.
Tbh I understand these impulses as much as anyone as I too had them once upon a time. But the older and more experienced I've become, the more I realize that there is truly no such thing as the noble pervert.
For those guys who like to share life advice unsolicited, let me assure you that you're the last person on this earth she wants to hear it from. Form the very first time you interacted with her in a sexual way, you lost any moral authority you might have had in her eyes. instead you became just another guy who wants to use her for sex.
Even if she ever gets desperate and reaches out to a customer for help, she is likely to assume that you have ulterior motives and, sadly, all too often she is likely proven right. If you try to get in her pants when you are helping her in some big way, or even just accept an offer of sex from her when you providing it, you are confirming her belief regarding your ulterior motives.
Personally that's more hypocrisy and self-delusion than I'm willing to stomach. This is why I never offer advice to these girls or otherwise get involved in their personal drama. It is also why I keep my charitable activities very separate from my SC entertainment.
Tbh I understand these impulses as much as anyone as I too had them once upon a time. But the older and more experienced I've become, the more I realize that there is truly no such thing as the noble pervert.
For those guys who like to share life advice unsolicited, let me assure you that you're the last person on this earth she wants to hear it from. Form the very first time you interacted with her in a sexual way, you lost any moral authority you might have had in her eyes. instead you became just another guy who wants to use her for sex.
Even if she ever gets desperate and reaches out to a customer for help, she is likely to assume that you have ulterior motives and, sadly, all too often she is likely proven right. If you try to get in her pants when you are helping her in some big way, or even just accept an offer of sex from her when you providing it, you are confirming her belief regarding your ulterior motives.
Personally that's more hypocrisy and self-delusion than I'm willing to stomach. This is why I never offer advice to these girls or otherwise get involved in their personal drama. It is also why I keep my charitable activities very separate from my SC entertainment.
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The only time I reached out to help a sexworker was when there was a wildfire in my area. I had seen this woman a handful of times and knew the general area where she lived. Well, I wildfire, that ended up closing down the city, hit near her home. She didn't call but I reached out to her and asked her if she was OK. She didn't respond for several hours but said she had to evacuate. I offered a spare bed and bath I have. She showed up with her adult daughter who paced around the place for an hour and left, clearly uncomfortable. The woman I asked spent a day or two with her cat and took me out to dinner and a nice place the first night (it was an area unaffected by the mass evacuations).
We ended up becoming friends now for about 20 years and counting. We dated some but her life wasn't something I wanted to get involved with in a serious way. We had a few fun years dating casually while she did sexwork. She's long retired and still a friend. We spoke via text yesterday. She lives in another city but we still stay in touch.
The only time I reached out to help a sexworker was when there was a wildfire in my area. I had seen this woman a handful of times and knew the general area where she lived. Well, I wildfire, that ended up closing down the city, hit near her home. She didn't call but I reached out to her and asked her if she was OK. She didn't respond for several hours but said she had to evacuate. I offered a spare bed and bath I have. She showed up with her adult daughter who paced around the place for an hour and left, clearly uncomfortable. The woman I asked spent a day or two with her cat and took me out to dinner and a nice place the first night (it was an area unaffected by the mass evacuations).
We ended up becoming friends now for about 20 years and counting. We dated some but her life wasn't something I wanted to get involved with in a serious way. We had a few fun years dating casually while she did sexwork. She's long retired and still a friend. We spoke via text yesterday. She lives in another city but we still stay in touch.
Merely being in the presence of a rick is a delight to anyone. So we ricks are being nice to the sexy females simply by showing up, having our fun, and paying our money. But what if one doesn’t have rickness to offer? I know, I know…the rickness oozes out of our very pores so it is inconceivable to not ooze the rickness. But remember that normies don’t ooze any rickness.
Put yourself in the shoes of a male normie. What does he have to offer? Not a whole hell of a lot. So he decides “I’ve got to do something to help this girl out” and comes up with some hairbrained scheme. Feel sorrow for those normies. Can you help them? Perhaps…you are a rick after all. But it probably isn’t worth trying. ROAR!!!
2Icee, you need to talk less and listen more boy. Strippers are for playing son, not for takin home. Time to man up and figure out how to land somethin better than a crack whore.
Red, when you figure that one out, please let us know. 😉
But come to find out tricks are usually just paying $200-$300 for each encounter. Icee stated he paid for his girlfriend dancers parents living arrangements, her schooling, and bought her tons of handbags and designer items, in addition to offering her 5k if she said she didn’t love him.
Believe whatever makes you feel better about yourself I suppose. 😉
But look at this from their perspective. Dancing really opens some girls eyes about the realities of how some men are. Men, often much older than they are, who might have seemed generous, kind, worthy of respect, etc., if they had never danced and met these guys in the real world, come into the club for the sole purpose of using girls for their entertainment. Too many of them also make asses of themselves in the process.
After a while it becomes hard for a girl not to put a club customer in a different mental bucket than some other guys. He goes to the club and pays to use her and girls like her for erotic entertainment of one type or another. As nice, respectful, etc., as he may be, this is the simple inescapable reality.
This is why I keep my strip club life and my personal charitable activities completely separate. There is no such thing as a noble pervert. If you met her first and foremost looking to use her for something sexual, she can never view you in the future as some moral authority or one who is acting solely out of the goodness of his heart.
Keep trolling though
Normal? Yeah right. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
Yes Red, that's him. Yet as you can see from his most recent self-deluded post above, he's still not processing the reality of it. Regardless of whose dick she sucked for drug money or how much she may have hustled some guys, Icee was the biggest trick of them all. 😌
Some of these guys believe in giving donations to hot women, without expecting anything in return. They may also use her for erotic entertainment, yet simultaneously also give her free money.
I cant say how the girl herself would perceive that person, but there are certain guys who will just give money without expecting anything in return. These onlyfans and internet sex girls post their amazon wishlists and things for that reason. Some Anonymous fans of theirs will just buy them stuff
That said, how dancers treat me I generally reflect back on them. If a dancer is all business with me, then I'm that way with them. If a dancer is more personable and fun, then I try to treat them the same way. If a dancer follows through faithfully with what I want from our time together (because I've told her what I want clearly), then I pay them. If they go above and beyond, then I reward them with a bigger tip.
I also try to be cognizant of the fact that they're people who have life stuff like anyone else. They can have bad days. They can be in a bad mood because a previous customer was really shitty to them. Ideally, they shouldn't allow their outside life to affect their in-club performance; we're going into clubs primarily for a very specific type of theater performance from them. But they're human and all humans are messy. Every so often, even the most professional dancer will have a bad day and it'll show. So, I try to give them some leeway to be normal, messy humans.
As far as dancers who (for whatever reason) provide a not-good experience and I suspect that it's just how they operate... well, it's a case-by-case basis. In some cases I'll dig in against it, but if the investment isn't huge (or I'm not in the mood) then I'll let it go, perhaps telling them "You don't have to bother approaching me ever again."
So, the "noble pervert" model (as framed here) isn't a good strategy and it's a great way to make going to strip clubs simultaneously not fun and very expensive. At the same time, it's possible to be respectful and treat dancers like regular people working a job. That has worked out well for me since I started going to strip clubs back when mammoths roamed the plains.
Agreed CMI. I don't think that anyone has suggested otherwise in this thread. Treating others with courtesy and dignity should be a baseline starting point in almost any interaction, most certainly including those with dancers.
I did chuckle though over your theory that we are going into clubs to see some kind of theater performance. Where in the world are <strong>you</strong> clubbing? LOL. I'd hardly call many of the girls I deal with polished actresses, nor are "messy" days some aberrational event IME. Heck one of the biggest reasons why I enjoy clubs in precisely because I never know what I'm going to find inside on any given night.
A strip club is a place filled with hot women who are motivated by money to behave towards us very differently than the vast majority of women behave outside the walls of a strip club. So, if not "theater" then call it an "act," "persona," or even a "performance" employed by a dancer to get paid by customers. And it's not unusual for some percentage of guys in a club to also be putting on some sort of persona, perhaps because they have a private life to protect or because it's part of the fun for them. So, the audience and the actors are often the same people.
A strip club where all the dancers responded to guys exactly how they do outside the club would shut down within a week. I see it as theater. You can call it whatever you want.
In the early days of his posting here he talked about spending 15k a month on some stripper hoe GF of his. It's somewhere in his early postings if someone wants to look it up.
Then again, he had an account or 2 banned in the past so those postings might be gone but I absolutely recall him saying he was spending 15k a month on some whore.
Yet you attack me like rabid dogs for being with a girl whose coke use got out of hand for a while. I feel bad for any relationship you're in if you can actually get one. If you think taking care of basically a common law wife. Is tricking or dumping. Grow the fuck up.
Diversion won't work here homie, you made your choices, posted about them, now reap your rewards, Lulz
You encouraged her to finesse and scam other people, and she did the same to you.
I'm not critical of you for 'being with a girl whose coke use got out of hand'. I'm critical of you for making up a story about that imaginary girl. That and not being able to keep track of your own lies better than most of the other guys here. But hey, when you're making up enough fake content to require some sort of Dewey Decimal system to keep track of all your lies, I suppose it's understandable that you've lost the plot more than a few times.
A few bucks, a ride, helping balance a checkbook, food for her kids, or any of a countless number of other small favors has been worth it for me. And not always directly. A couple of times, doing a favor some someone <em>else</em> has paid off as well.
I can't wait to see what she says when it gets really bad. 🤭🤡😭😭😭
^^^Wrong. It has nothing to do with having a common law wife. It has everything to do with the facts that
1) she's a junkie whore
2) she's a junkie whore that used you as a source of coke for 5 years
3) she's a junkie whore that dumped you for trying to control her drug use and whored herself to anyone that gave her coke, including a broke ass loser weed dealer that she chose instead of you.
LMFAO it's all about the context, my niggette. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7636…
...She started fucking other guys for coke. And she ended up with a broke ass bum wannabe pimp junkie...
She called me controlling and obsessive...
...he sells her pussy so they can get high."
^^^LMFAO these are all direct quotes. 🤭🤡😭😭😭
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LOL the "fake narrative" is your direct quotes. Too funny.
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And it's hilarious.
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Well, that's a layer cake made of pure hypocrisy right there.
"You do this every fucking day. All day."
With a cherry on top.
That's more retarded than cacaplop and sjg together
In Iceydodo's case, she tried to get a coke junkie stripper whore to cut back on her coke use and got dumped and cheated on. This is completely per the thread topic, dumbass
^^^ work on your reading comprehension, dumbass. I said it's hilarious that you're butthurt about your own posts. It's that simple, dumbass.
^^^Exactly. It's like that customer I read about who enabled this coke junkie stripper whore's coke habit for 5 years, thinking it was a "normal" relationship when all it was was a GFE hustle. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
Okay keep up the trolling in every fucking thread
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Unless bigthirdeye is a Mexican.
Are you a Mexican bigthirdeye?
I think there are three possibilities in a long term stripper/customer relationship.
1. The customer tires of the dancer - and decides to move on (to other dancers).
2. The customer makes odd comments - almost paternal - and that pushes the dancer away.
3. The customer knows it’s sex for money only - and obeys the boundary - and continues to enjoy great paid sex.