This is a question for dancers: what job about a customer would impress you the most in a strip club. I know it's a generalization, but still. For example, if there were a bunch of guys who were the same age, looked about the same etc and the only thing you knew about them were their jobs - which would you job/jobs would think the guy is more likely to be worth your while in a club?
Nyoman’s discussion topics are mostly stupid. To answer this question, dancers care only about how big you are ready spend on them? They don’t care what you do.
Anything that sounds like it pays good money. And yes, I know that there's a healthy retiree dayshift contingent on here that thinks it doesn't matter and maybe for you it doesn't. But when a nightshift girl is deciding where to focus her efforts and most definitely whether she wants to get involved in something OTC, it matters.
@RickDugan
You’re really overthinking this, most of these girls don’t put that much thought into who they’re doing tonight usually they have a number in mind, and if you are reasonably presentable and agree to something close they’ll be fine for the night.
Actually Rick is right when it comes to guys like me looking for regular OTC it absolutely matters. When I tell them what I do and I'm semi retired but you get than most older retirees and have a job where I work from home with an entirely flexible schedule and can work around theirs it matters. The ones I want are the ones who want to know I'm not a one off trick but a once a week guy
I would think engineers would be desirable - they may be seen as nerdy; not that good with women; educated/respectful; make pretty-good-$$$; and not too old
@rickdugan: "And yes, I know that there's a healthy retiree dayshift contingent on here that thinks it doesn't matter and maybe for you it doesn't."
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been asked about my profession more times than I can count, and more than any other "casual conversation" topic I can think of off the top of my head. The question is so common that I'd have to consider a dancer <em>not</em> asking it to be the exception.
So the notion that "it doesn't matter" seems unlikely to me. Now, whether one well-paying profession, career, skill, or job matters more or less than any other similar is a slightly different question, one I'm not qualified to answer.
===> "I don't know about anyone else, but I've been asked about my profession more times than I can count, and more than any other "casual conversation" topic I can think of off the top of my head."
Same here, regardless of what part of the country I'm clubbing in. And we know exactly why they're asking - to determine whether we may be worth their efforts.
I wonder how much a dancer asking is just making conversation and how much is seizing up the PL - asking people what they do seems to be a fairly-common convention-piece when people are socializing
@25: No offense intended, but if I remember correctly, you've never negotiated a single stripper OTC event. Many of these girls put plenty of thought into who they go OTC with and the momentary money is only one of their considerations. You'd likely have a different perspective if you had negotiated as many of these as I have - or even just a few dozen of them.
One would assume only newbie-dancers would take at face-value what customers tell them - most customers probably would innately know it's counterproductive to say "oh I work at Walmart" - I guess if he tells her he's a blue-collar-worker she may spend less time on him bur at the end of the day most dancers know custies often lie.
^ Papi, I hear what you're saying, but if they didn't find the information useful they wouldn't ask as much as they do. IMO you're not giving these girls enough credit. They deal with dudes all the time and hear endless BS. IME they develop pretty good instincts and can often tell when a guy is lying. Also they're not assessing your answer in a vacuum, but also combined with how you look and behave while you're dealing with them.
@RD
Not sure I know where that comes from I certainly have negotiated a few over the years, not as many as you or many others, I wasn’t trying to say that there aren’t any considerations but, if you’re a regular or even just a known quantity they tend to stop vetting you at that point, if they feel safe, the number they want is much more important to them than your occupation, I don’t think they put as much thought into the event as you’re implying.
Once they’ve established that they trust you they’re usually good to go.
^ I think you’re not getting it completely you seem to be getting played like a violin, or maybe you’re suffering from white knight syndrome, if I were you I’d rethink your entire approach before you get dadilaced
My MayOman, your profession does not matter. All that matters to them is are you wearing a golden underwear with expensive diamonds on it. So they remove it and make you to run naked. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
===> "I wasn’t trying to say that there aren’t any considerations but, if you’re a regular or even just a known quantity they tend to stop vetting you at that point, if they feel safe, the number they want is much more important to them than your occupation..."
Agreed about the known quantity stuff removing much of the vetting. But even still IME at some point the girl asks the question or already heard from someone else that you spend real money. I doubt that many of these girls want to do a one-and-done with a dude who rings a cash register at Home Depot and saved up for many weeks to pay for the event. Potential repeatability often matters, as does the belief that the guy can afford the fun and won't get emotional about it.
^ I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m saying I don’t think most of these girls are thinking it through the same way you are, I believe they’re motivated by cash in hand, and don’t worry, or even think much about tomorrow
Interesting perspectives. Of course it matters, anyone who thinks otherwise is living in their own world. Whether your lying and/or they believe you is a different question. My question is assuming they know (or think) you are telling the truth.
I am wondering amongst the top professions - not Wallmart, Home depot etc. For example, what would be preferred among Engineer, Doctor, CEO of Fortune 500, Wallstreet-type Financier etc.
I would be interested in hearing from some females/dancers...
@25: We'll have to agree to disagree. IME a lot of the (albeit quick in some cases) calculus these girls go through in deciding to see a guy OTC includes thinking about whether he'll likely be a future problem for her ITC. Guys with good paying jobs and, better still, family obligations, are often safe territory. Guys who aren't doing much with themselves and are obviously spending over their heads - not so much.
Ya know. It might just depend on what city you live in. Hear me out. Dugan is in Jacksonville. A city, but not a large city. If a dancer is going to make a long term living in that market, then she is going to have to build a recurring client base. So she does care about his job. In a city like Miami or Houston or Vegas, that stripper won't see the same clients again and again. They get new people coming at them all the time. So that dancer does not care.
@Warrior: I can see what you're saying with that. I'm not sure that I'd group Houston in that mix, but I could certainly see a handful of tourist trap destinations where the girls would care less. Neither potential repeatability nor extended ITC blowback would be factors in their decision-making - either they're willing to go with the guy OTC for a one and done or they're not. But I would also tender that these conditions exist for a relatively small % of clubs nationwide.
They ask what you do to make small talk . As long as you have money to spend it doesn't matter.
And hookers aren't picky about who they fuck for money. You can think you're special coz you pay $500 but the drug dealer can fuck her for under $100 in drugs. Or make yourself feel better telling yourself she's low mileage 🤡
I agree with Papi. I would think that most strippers would assume you were lying if you give them one of the top-tier professions: doctor, lawyer, Fortune 500 CEO, etc. Yeah, interesting that no actual dancer has chimed in yet, but I will give you some hearsay from my long-term OTC girl, although this may be unique to dayshift.
She told me she is most impressed with guys that say they have their own business, whatever that might be. She knows this means they have some cash and the flexibility to come into the club whenever they want because they set their own schedule.
Doctor evil is on to something. I think over the years guys who are self employed or own their own biz, even if they are blue colllar guys done good in life they tended to wind up with them, not the wall street guys
MayOman, your profession does not matter. All that matters to them is are you wearing a golden underwear with expensive diamonds on it. So they remove it and make you to run naked. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. 🛠fix yourself
@gmd said "I don't know about anyone else, but I've been asked about my profession more times than I can count, and more than any other "casual conversation" topic I can think of off the top of my head. The question is so common that I'd have to consider a dancer not asking it to be the exception.
So the notion that "it doesn't matter" seems unlikely to me. Now, whether one well-paying profession, career, skill, or job matters more or less than any other similar is a slightly different question, one I'm not qualified to answer."
^^^
I'm in this boat too. I can't prove it does matter, but they not only ask but I've had many girls remember that answer when often times they don't remember my name, suggesting they're more interested in my profession than my name. This doesn't exactly seem counter-intuitive or anything either. I don't know how much it figures into their OTC decisions directly, I think it influences their immediate actions ITC which could influence the development of enough of a relationship to even broach that subject. I tend to meet a girl ITC a several times and I think by that time they've got better information to assess me on than an occupation that could very well be total bullshit. And for me the occupation I tell them is usually total bullshit or generic enough so as to be useless
That is interesting that no dancers have weighed in yet! On that note, what percentage of people on this site are dancers? Is there anyway you can tell when you look at the comment that they post? Sometimes the profile pic and name throw me off.
^I'm inclined to believe that they're silently eye-rolling at this thread.
I worked in an SC* for several years. The girls then (mid-90s) didn't care what they did as long as they had cash in hand, and there was some behind-the-scenes mocking of dudes who claimed they were a Hotel Sierra CEO or some shit like that. I doubt that's changed in the meantime.
: Deja Vu, "Hundreds of beautiful girls and three ugly ones." When I was in the booth and the PLs weren't tipping, I'd tell them I was one of the three ugly ones and they'd best start spending if they didn't want to see my ass on stage.
You know I read all these comments and I had realized I rarely get asked what I do for a living. Heck, I’ve done OTC with girls before, multiple times even and they didn’t even know my first name.
Illegal drug distributor. NOT a retail slinger. As one of my favs told me, retail slingers feel like they're living large, but they'd get further ahead working at McDonalds. People with illegal money have trouble spending it without attracting LE attention. But strip clubs are a highly safe option. The 100 singles you made it rain are not going to be associated with your name in anyone's business records.
Not a rare thing that higher income people want to have a spouse who'd be homeless without them. It's a power trip. Since dancers commonly like to flex on PLs, no surprise many like to have a full-time PL at home they can flex even harder on.
But stay-at-home spouses can be entirely benign. If one spouse has a strong income, makes little sense for the other one to work a job they detest, especially if it's low paid. This is especially true if there are kids to take care of. Which spouse has the penis is not relevant to this logic.
Plenty of non-strippers have parasitic SOs. Hard to say really if strippers are especially prone to this. Our vanity makes us think they should prefer us over their SO (even though we are at best ambivalent about wanting to actually be involved with them). So, to sooth our own egos, we stereotype then at being especially stupid about who they want to be involved with.
If you want to instantly be the topic of conversation in that club for the next month just tell her your a detective for the local PD. Bring a little fake plastic badge to add some juice.
That whole club will know who you are in 30 seconds, and they will remember you for long after.
@shadow reality check, if we really wanted unfiltered answers to questions from strippers, we'd be on stripperweb. The dancers on here are filtering, because they think it would just turn into an ugly mess if they didn't. And I think they're probably right about that. Their filtering has a lot of subtlety to it, because it's practiced several shifts per week.
My best guess as to the unfiltered answer? As customers, we make one primary impression, thirsty fools. If we can control our thurstiness enough to remain pleasant, polite and not try to push their boundaries, that's as positive an impression as we can hope for. Available $ relevant, occupation irrelevant. As to what single occupation is universally impressive to all strippers for dating reasons, the answer I think is non-verbal, lots of eye-rolls, perhaps one stabbing.
Women in general want a man who is almost impossible to find: funny, caring, strong, smart protective, with a lot of money, yet vulnerable. Good in bed helps. So I tell them I'm a them I'm a retired porn star and weight lifter who got fat and made millions writing books on my practice as a therapist under the fake name, "Girthy Jimmy". I also am a marksman who avoided jail time after shooting my ex girlfriends abusive boyfriend.
Follow up question for dancers. Has any customer ever told you the truth when you asked what his job is?
Over the years, I’ve had dancers look at my watch to judge my ability to spend.Seems like a more accurate approach, at least for old guys who still have watches.
Depending on where you are they may be looking at your watch to ask their boy to mug you on your way out lol!
I'll tell you, there is no way in hell I'd wear a nice watch to places in a town like Bridgeport CT where I last was at a strip club!
Rarely few definitely will like if your profession is Pimp, drug dealer etc. But 99 percent won’t care what you do for living, just how much you are ready to spend.
I have been asked that by a few, and my answer of finance consulting had a fair impression at least to the younger, late 20s/early 30s ones who asked. One commented its a good job. Another, Whos much less formal, said oh that must mean you make a lot of money. How much do you make. I told her, and asked her how much she makes, and she said same. But honestly, I’m not sure if it really is the same. She’s rarely at the club, and claimed she’s some sort of dancer in her other job. It seems like she does some OTC stuff and has a hard tome trusting me.
Mark whats this about watches? So wearing a nice blinged out diamond watch would work well at the club?
Icee what are you saying about low mileage? How is anyone making themselves feel good saying someone is low mileage? If anything, low mileage dancers would make people feel bad. Cause they would feel their money was wasted
Champphilly, dancers are not just looking at what you’re spending in that moment they also want an exit strategy. If you’re making 300k+ you could probably have many different women including dancers, looking to want a relationship with you. It wouldn’t be a genuine relationship, but many relationships aren’t. In most cases they are looking at the guys status, wealth, fame etc in addition to looks and personality.
In general, I prefer customers with careers that both higher pay and lower prestige, they tend to be great spenders and low key about it.
There are exceptions of course, but public sector employees are less likely to be preferable.
Engineers are a ridiculously easy customer base.
Attornies can be good customers but it seems like a fair amount I’ve met like substances a lot and that can have its challenges. And I’m not going to snort coke with them.
Drug dealers can be pretty great, since money is easy come and easy go 😁 But if they have a flock of dancers with them already…ehh I’ll pass unless he specially calls me over.
Customers in sales often either have empathy and make everything so easy I don’t have to “sell” anything, OR be a huge pain in the rear.
That’s what I can think of off the top of my head. And somebody’s job isn’t the end all be all. And somebody mentioning their job can be can be useful in other ways other than what Glassdoor.com says the median salary is…like it can lead to general conversations down wherever. Some customers get really enthusiastic about describing xyz if you ask them the right questions. And one time I remember joking to a data scientist that he “plays with pythons all day” and just the fact I was aware a programming language exists impressed him for whatever reason and he made it rain $100 on my next stage set 😁 Fun times.
When I tell dancers I work in accounting, instead of being impressed they just tell me I don't look like an accountant. One told me last week I look like an artist. Her mind was probably going "artist = no money".
Trying to impress anyone with material shit just makes them look like a mark. And an impressive sounding job doesn't mean much to someone not a part of that world.
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You’re really overthinking this, most of these girls don’t put that much thought into who they’re doing tonight usually they have a number in mind, and if you are reasonably presentable and agree to something close they’ll be fine for the night.
I don't know about anyone else, but I've been asked about my profession more times than I can count, and more than any other "casual conversation" topic I can think of off the top of my head. The question is so common that I'd have to consider a dancer <em>not</em> asking it to be the exception.
So the notion that "it doesn't matter" seems unlikely to me. Now, whether one well-paying profession, career, skill, or job matters more or less than any other similar is a slightly different question, one I'm not qualified to answer.
Same here, regardless of what part of the country I'm clubbing in. And we know exactly why they're asking - to determine whether we may be worth their efforts.
You're getting bad advice and going about it wrong though lulz
Bingo.
Not sure I know where that comes from I certainly have negotiated a few over the years, not as many as you or many others, I wasn’t trying to say that there aren’t any considerations but, if you’re a regular or even just a known quantity they tend to stop vetting you at that point, if they feel safe, the number they want is much more important to them than your occupation, I don’t think they put as much thought into the event as you’re implying.
Once they’ve established that they trust you they’re usually good to go.
Agreed about the known quantity stuff removing much of the vetting. But even still IME at some point the girl asks the question or already heard from someone else that you spend real money. I doubt that many of these girls want to do a one-and-done with a dude who rings a cash register at Home Depot and saved up for many weeks to pay for the event. Potential repeatability often matters, as does the belief that the guy can afford the fun and won't get emotional about it.
I am wondering amongst the top professions - not Wallmart, Home depot etc. For example, what would be preferred among Engineer, Doctor, CEO of Fortune 500, Wallstreet-type Financier etc.
I would be interested in hearing from some females/dancers...
Am I off base on my thinking ?
I think a struggling musician, who plays video games on his sofa, and who smokes a lot of pot would be the top choice of dancers.
And hookers aren't picky about who they fuck for money. You can think you're special coz you pay $500 but the drug dealer can fuck her for under $100 in drugs. Or make yourself feel better telling yourself she's low mileage 🤡
As long as you have money you're good.
She told me she is most impressed with guys that say they have their own business, whatever that might be. She knows this means they have some cash and the flexibility to come into the club whenever they want because they set their own schedule.
So the notion that "it doesn't matter" seems unlikely to me. Now, whether one well-paying profession, career, skill, or job matters more or less than any other similar is a slightly different question, one I'm not qualified to answer."
^^^
I'm in this boat too. I can't prove it does matter, but they not only ask but I've had many girls remember that answer when often times they don't remember my name, suggesting they're more interested in my profession than my name. This doesn't exactly seem counter-intuitive or anything either. I don't know how much it figures into their OTC decisions directly, I think it influences their immediate actions ITC which could influence the development of enough of a relationship to even broach that subject. I tend to meet a girl ITC a several times and I think by that time they've got better information to assess me on than an occupation that could very well be total bullshit. And for me the occupation I tell them is usually total bullshit or generic enough so as to be useless
Either way, I would have thought one of the regular dancers around here would weigh in, if it matters or not.
I worked in an SC* for several years. The girls then (mid-90s) didn't care what they did as long as they had cash in hand, and there was some behind-the-scenes mocking of dudes who claimed they were a Hotel Sierra CEO or some shit like that. I doubt that's changed in the meantime.
: Deja Vu, "Hundreds of beautiful girls and three ugly ones." When I was in the booth and the PLs weren't tipping, I'd tell them I was one of the three ugly ones and they'd best start spending if they didn't want to see my ass on stage.
Not a rare thing that higher income people want to have a spouse who'd be homeless without them. It's a power trip. Since dancers commonly like to flex on PLs, no surprise many like to have a full-time PL at home they can flex even harder on.
But stay-at-home spouses can be entirely benign. If one spouse has a strong income, makes little sense for the other one to work a job they detest, especially if it's low paid. This is especially true if there are kids to take care of. Which spouse has the penis is not relevant to this logic.
Plenty of non-strippers have parasitic SOs. Hard to say really if strippers are especially prone to this. Our vanity makes us think they should prefer us over their SO (even though we are at best ambivalent about wanting to actually be involved with them). So, to sooth our own egos, we stereotype then at being especially stupid about who they want to be involved with.
That whole club will know who you are in 30 seconds, and they will remember you for long after.
My best guess as to the unfiltered answer? As customers, we make one primary impression, thirsty fools. If we can control our thurstiness enough to remain pleasant, polite and not try to push their boundaries, that's as positive an impression as we can hope for. Available $ relevant, occupation irrelevant. As to what single occupation is universally impressive to all strippers for dating reasons, the answer I think is non-verbal, lots of eye-rolls, perhaps one stabbing.
Works every time.
Over the years, I’ve had dancers look at my watch to judge my ability to spend.Seems like a more accurate approach, at least for old guys who still have watches.
I'll tell you, there is no way in hell I'd wear a nice watch to places in a town like Bridgeport CT where I last was at a strip club!
There are some occupations where the guys who do that job are consistently behaving the same, so that can be a plus or a minus.
My best customers, in order, are:
Attorney
Attorney
Mexican construction dude
Military dude
Retired blue collar dude
Retired real estate dude
People have all kinds of circumstances with money and as such your job is not an indication of your spending in the club.
Icee what are you saying about low mileage? How is anyone making themselves feel good saying someone is low mileage? If anything, low mileage dancers would make people feel bad. Cause they would feel their money was wasted
No I'm not talking Pepsi's competitor.
There are exceptions of course, but public sector employees are less likely to be preferable.
Engineers are a ridiculously easy customer base.
Attornies can be good customers but it seems like a fair amount I’ve met like substances a lot and that can have its challenges. And I’m not going to snort coke with them.
Drug dealers can be pretty great, since money is easy come and easy go 😁 But if they have a flock of dancers with them already…ehh I’ll pass unless he specially calls me over.
Customers in sales often either have empathy and make everything so easy I don’t have to “sell” anything, OR be a huge pain in the rear.
That’s what I can think of off the top of my head. And somebody’s job isn’t the end all be all. And somebody mentioning their job can be can be useful in other ways other than what Glassdoor.com says the median salary is…like it can lead to general conversations down wherever. Some customers get really enthusiastic about describing xyz if you ask them the right questions. And one time I remember joking to a data scientist that he “plays with pythons all day” and just the fact I was aware a programming language exists impressed him for whatever reason and he made it rain $100 on my next stage set 😁 Fun times.
But I'll sit here with my popcorn waiting for an actual dancer to give her opinion.
Are you trying to lie to strippers to seem more impressive for an easy lay? I totally get it.
And some strip clubs are more talking places than others.
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