If you had to choose between a 9 for one hour who gives great head or a 6 for four hours who gives okay FS for roughly the same ($400), which would you choose?
Obviously $400 for a BJ is more than many would pay versus FS with more time, but I'm seriously considering the 9.
Neither. I'm not bothering with OTC for a BJ and I'm not interested in a 6. I'm gonna go with a 8 or 9 and neither of us are gonna watch the clock while we fuck.
As others have said, always the 9, unless she has a bad attitude. I don't bother with 6s.
But the 9's menu pricing is interesting. I know it's not uncommon with escorts, but normally when I negotiate OTC with a stripper it's a set number for a trip to the notel for whatever. If she's giving you a price list then I'm guessing that she has advertised on escort sites at some point. Might not hurt to check a couple of them to see if you can find her.
Me personally, I'd opt for $500 for FS (never been a big BJ fan) for an hour with the woman I found more attractive. Since both my balls are smaller than a softball, any time much over an hour would be hanging out time, not naughtiness time. I would not enjoy hanging out with someone who only wants to hang out with me if they are paid to do so.
My idea of OTC is a little different than most guys. I'm not paying just for the sex part of it. I want the entire GFE experience . Now, I'm not excited about doing a 6. But if she's a 7 with a great attitude and is a lot of fun to hang around. I would take that over a 9 with a bad attitude that is only giving the BJ.
If you are negotiating time boundaries for your OTC, you're already making the dumbest mistake you can make when it comes to OTCs. I can't imagine picking either of these. If it's the 9 who has pre-negotiated the hour, you're in for a disappointing time. And I"m not paying shit to do a 6, that's not why I go to strip clubs or do OTCs.
That other post submitted way too early, but bottom line is YMWV, including what things cost. Some places in the country are less expensive than others, and sometimes a girl just feels like getting down and a guy catches a break.
===> "Can we stop with the every girl needs to be a virgin to make it a decent OTC"
Let's ease up on the melodramatic hyperbole. It makes you look like a drama queen. If you disagree with what others are seeking, feel free to simply say so.
Personally I also prefer them lower volume. I don't want to be x of y served in a short window. To each his own. I won't criticize others who care less about this - it's their money to spend how they wish.
===> "400 in this inflation? 400 OTC on any day is way cheap. May be very high volume. Avoidable"
Champ, $400 is still real money to a lot of people. There are plenty of places where $400 will get it done. There are still a lot of people out there who have to work 20-30+ hours to earn that much money. Now maybe market prices in Philly have gotten to the point where $400 won't get it done, but noteveryone lives in Philly or some other large urban metro area.
===> "^ my guess is you’re either giving off a sucker vibe, or you weren’t getting serious offers."
This. Or maybe pie in the sky offers that might have gotten him something, but I suspect would not have been as good as he hoped.
Now to give Champ some benefit of the doubt, I've clubbed in Philly and it's far from the cheapest place to have fun. But I can't imagine that $500 wouldn't get it done there, especially now with how slow some of the urban based clubs are with office workers and travelers yet to return in numbers. Philly ain't exactly NYC or L.A., lol. Man if only I had the opportunity to get to places like Philly and other medium sized cities and do some exploring, lol.
Now here's how I look at it. I've definitely done the cheaper 6 who might even be better in bed. But I'm going to TRY a couple dates with the more expensive 10 to see if I can move her from BJ to BBFS with ass smacking, hair pulling, and erotic asphyxiation. Ok slight exaggeration but you get the picture.
I don't pay hoes. But I get offers in clubs and from instathots.
I think most aren't professional and their prices are based on their attraction to you or lack of.
Recently I've been offered $500 all nighters. Sex for the price of a discounted vip room. Sex for getting their nails and lashes done. Lots of Cuban and puertobrican girls giving offers of $100.
Pretty covid I'd sometimes get delusional offensive $700 for her showing up then negotiate based on what I want. Or the occasional $1k from popular instathots. That hasn't happened since.
Fortunately, this choice is a false dichotomy for me. The 9 let me take several hundred pictures of her in a nice hotel room, and then fucked the shit out of me, for a couple hundred bucks. The 8 invites me into her home and fucks me and feeds me and then sometimes fucks me again for two or three hundred. My ATF, who many of you I'm sure would rate a 6, especially after he third child, would spend all afternoon before work with me, even before the thing happened.
Thank goodness I'm living in flyover country, and not the overpriced coasts.
@RD
South Florida is no longer among the cheapest spots either, but some folks still underestimate how much $400 is actually remember most of these girls don’t make $1500 a week and $400 cash daily would be the equivalent of a larger than 2G weekly salary. And $400 will get the job done here without a lot of difficulty.
Twentyfive & Rick, they were serious offers. Even one girl came for lunch date for free. As a regular these girls know me very well, they hang out with me for hours. As club manager gives me a special attention, and I get these dancers free drinks, may be they are taking advantage of me. But the offer was for night, not an hour or two. I think I move it through the manager. 🤣
$400 for an hour is a good price, that many of the hottest escorts charge, who don’t have much fame. The main thing that allows the women to charge above the $500 an hour range is fame, not so much looks. Above the $500 range you get the low volume escorts, the famous pornstars, the famous twitter girls or Instagram girls. $2000 for an overnight is a ripoff unless its one of those fsmous girls. Keep in mind these pornstars and famois instagram models have millions of followers on Instagram or Twitter. So it’s that level of fame that allows them to charge so much.
You could probably negotiate the overnight rate with some of them. Some might let you stay overnight free if they don’t have other clients waiting.
Btw there is no such rule that the hotter a girl is the more she will charge or the lower mileage she will be. At one club the hottest dancer was also the freakiest and easiest for otc. She was brazilian, so it’s possible being recently immigrated played a role in her freakiness and easiness. But its also about pricing strategy. The general rule is the more you charge the less clients you will get. Some people like pornstars or famous insta models can afford to charge 1-2k and still have a large volume of clients because of their fame. For others, they can gain more clients at $300. They may get 10 people willing to pay $300 yet only one person willing to pay $1000
Well, I opted for ITC FS for $500 with the 9 for an hour. She was so damn hot I had plenty of time to spare. Definitely worth it instead of the 6 IMHO.
"'Can we stop with the every girl needs to be a virgin to make it a decent OTC'
Let's ease up on the melodramatic hyperbole. It makes you look like a drama queen. If you disagree with what others are seeking, feel free to simply say so."
The comment below the one you quoted said the post went out too early because the post button is absurdly close to the text box and I mishit when trying to edit. I'm going to ignore the rest because you accusing anyone else on here of being a drama queen is comedy gold.
"Personally I also prefer them lower volume."
Yes, we know. You literally type this every other day.
"I won't criticize others who care less about this - it's their money to spend how they wish."
Yes, you will. And typing the occasional disclaimer doesn't wipe out your continual commentary about it. Your getting triggered by an already acknowledged typo makes the point for the rest of us.
...and I had a longer comment I'd planned to type out with more context, but opted for something shorter to get out in front of an overreaction. And sure as shit there was one sitting right there when I went back later lol.
But fwiw the flaming is down so I'll take the occasional sideways comment if it keeps us communicating on things that are interesting.
I never offer OTC. I have been offered OTC a handful of times, mostly in metro Chicago. $500 seems about average. I've had aggressive offers start much higher, but work its way down to $500. I don't haggle and seldom explore the conversation, so who knows if these girls go lower. I've had all range of girls offer as well, but mostly 6s.
This guy I work with loves escorts because he wants a low volume provider. His range is easily in the $600+, and not uncommon to spend $1k. My friend would agree with BigThirdEye, it's about fame, exclusivity, and the idea of low-volume.
As for the OP's question, I would do the 9, assuming performance in services are equal. Even if the 6 can knock it out of the park with FS, it's 4 hours and I've go other things to do, like other girls :)
I usually need time to work up to FS, so hourly can be expensive. I did just a BJ with this girl before and she was great. So we started with that and was quickly ready for FS so we jumped into it. She has a friend who is an 8-8.5 who just couldn't get me there. The 9 was something else.
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But I doubt you would get someone offering full service for $100/hr except she’s a junkie.
The 9 is fine with FS for $500. So one hour with the 9 or four hours with the 6?
Honestly I'm still leaning towards the 9, but time is enjoyable with the 6.
But the 9's menu pricing is interesting. I know it's not uncommon with escorts, but normally when I negotiate OTC with a stripper it's a set number for a trip to the notel for whatever. If she's giving you a price list then I'm guessing that she has advertised on escort sites at some point. Might not hurt to check a couple of them to see if you can find her.
Why would you even want this for four hours? If you're leaning toward the 9 there's probably a reason.
Let's ease up on the melodramatic hyperbole. It makes you look like a drama queen. If you disagree with what others are seeking, feel free to simply say so.
Personally I also prefer them lower volume. I don't want to be x of y served in a short window. To each his own. I won't criticize others who care less about this - it's their money to spend how they wish.
Champ, $400 is still real money to a lot of people. There are plenty of places where $400 will get it done. There are still a lot of people out there who have to work 20-30+ hours to earn that much money. Now maybe market prices in Philly have gotten to the point where $400 won't get it done, but noteveryone lives in Philly or some other large urban metro area.
This. Or maybe pie in the sky offers that might have gotten him something, but I suspect would not have been as good as he hoped.
Now to give Champ some benefit of the doubt, I've clubbed in Philly and it's far from the cheapest place to have fun. But I can't imagine that $500 wouldn't get it done there, especially now with how slow some of the urban based clubs are with office workers and travelers yet to return in numbers. Philly ain't exactly NYC or L.A., lol. Man if only I had the opportunity to get to places like Philly and other medium sized cities and do some exploring, lol.
I don't pay hoes. But I get offers in clubs and from instathots.
I think most aren't professional and their prices are based on their attraction to you or lack of.
Recently I've been offered $500 all nighters. Sex for the price of a discounted vip room. Sex for getting their nails and lashes done. Lots of Cuban and puertobrican girls giving offers of $100.
Pretty covid I'd sometimes get delusional offensive $700 for her showing up then negotiate based on what I want. Or the occasional $1k from popular instathots. That hasn't happened since.
Thank goodness I'm living in flyover country, and not the overpriced coasts.
South Florida is no longer among the cheapest spots either, but some folks still underestimate how much $400 is actually remember most of these girls don’t make $1500 a week and $400 cash daily would be the equivalent of a larger than 2G weekly salary. And $400 will get the job done here without a lot of difficulty.
But you’re going to get Dadillaced
It would have been nice if you had added this several posts back. Of course a girl wants to get paid more for an entire night.
You could probably negotiate the overnight rate with some of them. Some might let you stay overnight free if they don’t have other clients waiting.
Btw there is no such rule that the hotter a girl is the more she will charge or the lower mileage she will be. At one club the hottest dancer was also the freakiest and easiest for otc. She was brazilian, so it’s possible being recently immigrated played a role in her freakiness and easiness. But its also about pricing strategy. The general rule is the more you charge the less clients you will get. Some people like pornstars or famous insta models can afford to charge 1-2k and still have a large volume of clients because of their fame. For others, they can gain more clients at $300. They may get 10 people willing to pay $300 yet only one person willing to pay $1000
Let's ease up on the melodramatic hyperbole. It makes you look like a drama queen. If you disagree with what others are seeking, feel free to simply say so."
The comment below the one you quoted said the post went out too early because the post button is absurdly close to the text box and I mishit when trying to edit. I'm going to ignore the rest because you accusing anyone else on here of being a drama queen is comedy gold.
"Personally I also prefer them lower volume."
Yes, we know. You literally type this every other day.
"I won't criticize others who care less about this - it's their money to spend how they wish."
Yes, you will. And typing the occasional disclaimer doesn't wipe out your continual commentary about it. Your getting triggered by an already acknowledged typo makes the point for the rest of us.
But fwiw the flaming is down so I'll take the occasional sideways comment if it keeps us communicating on things that are interesting.
This guy I work with loves escorts because he wants a low volume provider. His range is easily in the $600+, and not uncommon to spend $1k. My friend would agree with BigThirdEye, it's about fame, exclusivity, and the idea of low-volume.
As for the OP's question, I would do the 9, assuming performance in services are equal. Even if the 6 can knock it out of the park with FS, it's 4 hours and I've go other things to do, like other girls :)
I usually need time to work up to FS, so hourly can be expensive. I did just a BJ with this girl before and she was great. So we started with that and was quickly ready for FS so we jumped into it. She has a friend who is an 8-8.5 who just couldn't get me there. The 9 was something else.