ROPL - Strategies.

That's some lowlife incel shit

Why would anybody waste their time or energy, there are so many lovely girls that are happy to get your money and entertain you, I hope you have better things to do than that.

I think it's clear it's not my game. Im a lover not a fighter. But I'm damn sure our angrier brethren have ideas

^ You mean like the Keyboard Kowboys they are full of shit.

Usually when dancers tell me what motivates then to take advantage of some guys is when they become to grabby or expect too much for too little money. Neither is appropriate IMO. And it's on the guy if he doesn't cut the deal before the VIP. So, I get why some of them turn to the dark side.

I'm sure a lot of guys "pay afterwards" then don't have enough then "forgot their ATM card." It's more of an escort thing but it applies just as much to strippers.

With a hooker that's basically rape

===> "Ok this is just for fun but damnit those ROB reddit threads and stripperweb threads really pissed me off."

Why? Does the rooster get worked up every time he hears a hen clucking? Or does he keep doing his thing knowing that he's gonna' get his either way?

My strategy is to move along to another stripper. It's neither complex nor devious, but it is quite effective.

As has been pointed out in numerous threads, posting on the internet in hopes of changing behaviors and affecting the market is futile, but I gotta encourage against this shit. All it does is foster more negativity and hostility, and ultimately increases the instances the behaviors you think you're trying to rebel against.

One approach I've seen that would work in my city is to spend time with the girl in your lap, feel them up, and have fun with them while they try to sell you into the VIP, and then turn them down. Do this with a couple girls and there's your night. Go to a different club next month. If a year or more later (depending on how many clubs your city has and how often you go) you find one of the girls you did this to, you can either turn them down or give them $20 or something. I've never done this myself but I can see how easy it would be to get away with it.

Another one is to make them believe that you only take your regulars to the VIP rooms so they idea is that they have to give you a good time and become a regular before they can make those big bucks off you. By the time they realize your hustle, they like you too much as a customer despite the amount of money you offer them, though they do try to keep upselling you into the VIP. This only works in clubs that don't offer a better, more extra, experience in the VIP room.

Uh ok, ^^ fuckin gross.

The idea to me is we mutually respect what we are each here for and we desire to both give each other a positive experience and leave having had a good time.

In life you are going to get burned sometimes, it’s not exclusive to the club. But I try to be decent even to jerks, and I also try to avoid them too.

i've never hit a club with a vengeful agenda. that's counter-productive. nothing wrong with vigilance though. the warning signs become second nature and i move on.

"The idea to me is we mutually respect what we are each here for and we desire to both give each other a positive experience and leave having had a good time."

lol. total horseshit. save your lines for the noobs and RILs.

just another known troll from r/failed_stripper who regularly bashes tuscl and sc guests, and should be mistreated/ignored accordingly.

it is good practice to respond to these cunts like unsolicited itc rob approaches. also like the clubs, disagreeing with them usually results in hissy fits/personal attacks.

fuck off reddit rags.

i appreciate liwet and his opinions, and have the back if of any tuscl men being disrespected by reddit/rob she-trolls. bros before trolling hoes.

Pink sugar doll you're not dancing in Vegas 🤡

I’ve never done this out of malice, but I’m sure it constitutes ROPL. On occasion I have spent time with a dancer at the bar or at my table, maybe shared a drink or two, and some mutual groping with the expectation of a VIP session. But when it comes time to close the deal, if for whatever reason I’m just not feeling it, I get up and leave. I know this is wrong and pisses off the dancer, and I never set out to do this. But it happens occasionally.

I agree with PSD. Life is too short for revenge. If you are scammed by one dancer just don’t get another dance from her. Unless you are a total jerk there is another dancer who is happy to give you a good experience for a fair amount of money. @Daily, what’s your issue with dancers that are on this site and seem to have their act together. I have seen you badmouth one after another. Dancers who contribute on this site are a rare and very useful resource.

Agree with FishHawk if anything we should be encouraging dancers to participate here unless they absolutely hate us, which they dont

I go to clubs to get away from real life drama. Some trips have been great and some just so-so but never felt like i had true ROB experience. I just figured some girls were having a bad day. If i felt a dancer screwed me over I would not get dances from her again. I try to be respectful and courteous. Just my $0.02 but life’s too short to not put things in the past.

"But when it comes time to close the deal, if for whatever reason I’m just not feeling it, I get up and leave. I know this is wrong and pisses off the dancer, and I never set out to do this. But it happens occasionally."

What really pisses off the dancer is when you say, just before you leave, "I'll be right back." And, of course you never return.

I listen to R.o.b. stories here, but its maybe happened 5-6 times lifetime for me. Never once considered anything other than dope slapping myself for allowing it to happen. Life is way too short to give a shit about silly things like a few dollars.

we should be encouraging dancers to participate here unless they absolutely hate us, which they dont"

they're the same cunts that bash tuscl and sc guests at reddit. you guys do you, but i'm calling out any disrespect for men here that i wouldn't put up with in the club.

on-topic, i don't advocate ripping them off itc and have never stiffed a dancer. any ropl moves itc either gives the guest a bad rep or gets them thrown out/banned.

@Tetradon You don't leave your charge and debit cards at home to begin with? I thought this was a cash only community broski?

@daily grind: where is PSD being disrespectful? You’re the one calling people cunts.

Daily Grind is a cunt.

you're right drew. thanks.

Psd is a fake profile. And cacaplop is a retarded incel

icee's so fun to have around. the court jester of tuscl.

ski-pedo is tuscl's head cuck. she-trolls got him so whipped he couldn't see thru their bullshit with a telescope. part of it's an act to hide his fetish for little boys.

I'm sending there isn't a great deal of love for each other in this community...

yup. tuscl is bros before hoes vs cucked 'white knights' scared not to stay in the reddit cunts' good graces vs a sea of trolls. one of the charms of an unmoderated forum.

Daily Grinf is the stuff on the sole of your shoe you scrape off on the curb. Anyone going back in time could do humanity a favor by spaying and neutering the human garbage that birthed that piece of shit. Daily faggot lives in daily fear of running into another board member and wets herself over the thought.

ooh. the head cuck/pedophile has spoken. lulz. stick to the bunny hills, son.

I wouldn't waste my time and energy.

To answer OP's question: ROBs get identified by my approach within one or two dances. I've never gotten to VIP and received less than I came for (knock on wood). When a dancer fails one of the series of gates for whatever reason, I end the session, thank them for their time, pay them, and never repeat. I look at it as a cost of doing business, and see a ROB and bad lap dancer in the same way: I'm out $40, and it's no big deal. In my book, retribution against a service worker is not the path of a gentleman.

Since "this is just for fun" and "for entertainment purposes only what rip off strategies do guys use when you feel the need to strike back"... my ultimate punishment for a ROB that I had to get back at (in this parallel universe where I would do that) I would do the following:

Pull a full Don Hector and raise my hand + index finger up as if I am about to make a point, look penetratingly into her eyes, and then shart hard enough to get a small stream of shit water to run down the booth seat and onto the floor. She would definitely leave, abandoning all hope of payment, and she would definitely regret her choices that night.

I've been re-watching Breaking Bad, and that move is all time. =)

YOU ASKED.

Drew as to your shart water reaction in the VIP I have definitely done that in the VIP but alas they always charge me extra....

Ahahahahahahahahahah!

"@Daily, what’s your issue with dancers that are on this site and seem to have their act together. I have seen you badmouth one after another. Dancers who contribute on this site are a rare and very useful resource."

FishHawk, it's best not to question why it uses the rhetoric it does toward women. I asked that same question assuming some woman has probably hurt it in its life so much that it caused it to have this attitude. I've now come to the conclusion after doing some research and asking other TUSCLers, that it doesn't go to clubs as much as it claims to, nor does it have any sort of a social life outside of TUSCL.

In the way that it acts like a savior for the men of this site in reporting what goes on on stripper Reddit, I've come to conclude that it has few or no friends in real life and is seeking validation from the men of this site by using hateful rhetoric toward women. It's hoping others will agree with it when it calls women cunts and whatnot. However, if you notice, it likes its own comments. Maybe once or twice, another member will like something it comments as well, but for the most part you'll see that it likes its own comments - especially those in which it believes it's being a savior and seeking validation from others. Perhaps it doesn't realize that we can see who likes a comment or not, or perhaps it is hoping others will follow suit and like the comment, too.

It is also a self-proclaimed pothead, which it uses to mask it's loneliness. Aside from paying women to give a fuck about it temporarily, it truly is a lonesome little thing in the big world on this site seeking validation from you guys hoping somebody will agree with its hatred toward women.

In all reality, it most likely doesn't even hate women in real life. It is most likely a little sissy bitch who takes orders and beatings from women, yet comes on here as a keyboard warrior in retaliation for its fetish and self-wallowing pity because it's so lonely outside of TUSCL. It speaks ill of strippers on Reddit, yet has claimed to be the moderator of this site on Reddit and created its own failing subReddits. It's best not to pay or give any attention to it. Let it continue to maintain its murdery and rapey rants towards women. (It has admitted to enjoying watching women struggle in a post it created last month sometime. That's some serious rapey vibes. But it's fake anyway.)

Let it continue to believe it's doing good by incessantly posting things found on StripperWeb and Reddit. The obsession and free time it has in stalking those websites goes to show exactly how little of any sort of a life it has outside of this site. If you notice, it also frequents this site and posts/comments on it multiple times throughout the day, which is further evidence of it having absolutely no life whatsoever. Let it continue to like its own comments. Let it continue to be the little sissy bitch it really is in real life... because TUSCL is all it has.

And yes, I am a cunt. I am a very proud self-proclaimed cunt. And those of us who are cunts are still welcome at this site. We always have been. It just doesn't like that women don't agree with it, which is another sign of it needing that validation it's not getting. And then it comes down to it, just simply ignore what it says. It craves the attention which is why it keeps up its facade of hating women. Just pay no attention to this irrelevant little thing on this site.

I know it's going to go masturbate after reading that because I gave it attention. You may CashApp me afterward, DG, you little sissy bitch. I hope it's a good fap. Now go back to sitting on the floor and drinking out of your dog bowl. 🥰😘

And before I am accused of commenting off topic, allow me to contribute now. I believe in fairness and honesty. I don't agree with the girls who steal from customers. I see this job as a sales job with a twist of customer service. Most of the girls scamming PLs and acting as ROBs most likely have never held any kind of a normal job in the actual workforce or are desperate for whatever money they can get. I don't agree with what they do, but as a fellow stripper, I understand where they're coming from and I, myself, see and hear girls I work with do it. I have also had many opportunities to steal from and rip off customers, but I do believe in karma, so I haven't knowingly ever done so.

Strip clubs were originally made for entertainment and for a fantasy. I don't think it's in a customer's best interest to attend a strip club with the intention of screwing over a dancer. There are managers and owners (babysitters) who do care about the customers; and instead of wasting your time and effort on trying to teach a dancer a lesson, have the babysitters of that dancer do it instead. Simply walk away and enjoy the rest of your evening after informing the babysitters of that dancer and then write a review to warn others.

tldr: i'm trolling for simps/white knights. any suckers?

this is too easy. ignoring me forever lasted what, a week. lmao. loving the obssesion, but what an ugly heart. thanks again for validating all my rhetoric.

Jimmy im not sure customers could actually rip off dancers the way dancers can with customers. The most you could do is maybe waste their time in the club and act like you might get a dance then dont?

The ripoffs happen with whoever gets paid first or service first. If customers weren’t paying before the service you would have customers running away after the service is received.

Since many strip clubs have customers pay money first, the unfortunate thing that can happen is dancers can screw them over. Its also because extras are illegal. It depends on if the dancer is interested in long term potential income, or if it doesnt matter.
You’re basically out of luck if you get promised something in a dance and don’t get it. Tbh the strip Club’s existence in itself is basically because of the illegality of prostitution. If prostitution was entirely legalized, the strip Club’s would probably all turn into brothels overnight. And there would be legally enforced negotiation allowed with every dance. For instance being refunded if a dancer didn’t do what she agreed to in the dance.