New to strip clubs (how do you not fall in love with these hoes?)
PipeHerArcher
Taking your favorite girl for a $100 hamburger
Just a little bit about myself. I’m under 30 and have a job that brings me to new cities every week. Three months ago while sitting in my hotel room I decide fuck it I’ll go to that strip club I passed in the Uber I took. That night I had a myriad of beautiful latinas for LD and VIPs. I had never touched fake tits until that night. Upon leaving I knew that this was the hobby for me. After about 30 mins of googling if found Tuscaloosa. I have a home club that I have gone to twice monthly coming back from that trip. I am looking for the advice you gentleman would give yourselves if you could go back in time.I’ve been lurking this site for the better part of 3 months and understand most of the jargon. Any advice would be great.
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A strip club is business - the avg custy is just focused on having a good time or filling a void, but best believe most strippers only see it as busine$$ no matter how they make it look like - again if girls in the real-world are not fawning over you, then don't expect stripper-fawning to be genuine b/c it's not; it's just part of the hustle/sales-pitch - again, strip-clubs are entertainment, not a place to find a girlfriend - doesn't mean one can't enjoy them but one has to know what they are and what they are not.
Yeah you can date stripper hoes but you won't get them by being a trick
Don't be surprised if she blows u off or keeos giving excuses about not being able to meet or tells u to go see her at the club instead.
JOIN ME AND MY SWORD. I SHALL MAKE YOU MY SQUIRE AND WE RIDE TOGETHER, DOING EVERY DAMSEL'S BIDDING WE COME ACROSS, NO MATTER THE COSTS!
My three best customers of all time:
Two are attorneys, they don’t have glamorous jobs.
The third is a Mexican immigrant who works construction.
I do not care about their jobs, I care that they are good to me, respectful of me, and generous.
I have mingled with some very A-list people because of my job. I’m not any more attracted to those kinds of people over others.
Most of us want to go to the office and go home, just like you. My advice is this: if you are trying to have sex or spend time outside the club with a girl, go ahead, but accept that her motive is to get something from you, whether it’s money, clothes, a car, a green card, whatever.
I am a decent person and I am caring of my regulars who I continue to see. But this is just reality, most girls are here to get the absolute most that they can from you. You can have a successful experience if this is what you want to do, but you have to accept that this is how it works. 🤷🏼♀️ We are at our job.
When a dancer really likes you she's the exact opposite of her work persona
Strippers can be a LOT of fun to hang out with off the clock and also a lot of drama. The sweet spot is the same as with civvy women where you can hang out and bang but she doesn't depend on you for anything.
I agree you should know what you want. Since you travel for work having girls you hang out with when you're in town is ideal in general. Have friends have fun don't fall in Love!
This is a good discussion for young club fans to read and learn from.
If that’s what you are interested in, and you have the money, going to clubs can be a nice amusement. If you ever find that you prefer this fantasy to connecting with women in the real world, that’s when you are headed for trouble.
If his inquiry is sincere, and he is objectively reading the advice, this could help him to avoid drama and lots of wasted money.
If you're seeing that being around her is contingent on you paying her. Then you're a trick.
One warning sign as to her using you is if she plays up the stripper hoe fantasy when you're around her. If ahe acts hypersexual she's jn hustle mode.
And a relationship with a dancer is like any relationship with a young girl these days.
But ok, let's assume that you're too lazy to go to the gym and have a secret inheritance from Uncle Bob that you're just dying to blow...
There's no lesson that anyone can share with you here that's going to make a lick of difference. Some lessons need to be learned firsthand. Until you've been one of the rollercoaster rides you'll never be able to process how good some of these girls are at providing faux affection. So go make your mistakes and just be prepared to pull yourself from the ledge before you do something TOO stupid. Eventually your instincts will catch up to your desires, lol.
As far as every comment in this thread about "the fantasy' and "going to the office" throw all that nonsense out. Any girl who actually says that stuff to you in the club avoid at all costs - she's likely very new and low mileage. I don't go to a club looking for a "fantasy" I go to enjoy naked women and, when the stars align, rail one while she was bent over the bed in my notel room.
Just take each girl for who she seems to be and figure it out from there. Along the way, remember that your money is ammunition - don't shoot it too frivolously unless you have a fun target in sight.
One reason I like SCs is I like buying a lady 2 or three drinks. I can do it there and I know when I leave the club there are no strings. lol
Enjoy!
Cheers!!
I never went to strip clubs when I was young so I always like hearing comments about experiences like the one left by Warrior15 above. It doesn't sound like I missed much because the girls would still be the same fake friendly when I did start going in my fifties.
Easy! Just go ahead *and* do fall in love with these hoes. You'll quickly realize you absolutely shouldnt. Forever.
I remember my first OTC and the young dancer shows up with a baby seat in the backseat of her car. No baby, of course. But our OTC was like at 1pm in a random hotel on like a Wedesday. I had no idea she was a young mom.
2 other OTCs with other dancers both at their cribs, both places were filthy. I'm thinking you knew I was coming over, right? Didn't even attempt to clean, lol.
Nah, I can't fall in love wit these chicks...
if some of the dancers here are reading this feel free to reply - just want to see if what i'm typing is in line along the way you think.
so pipes, you said you think you can bag some of these dancers. sure it's possible. two ways that can be done. one is via trade. cash/barter something in exchange for something orgasmic inducing in return. or two - chasing like you would a civvie.
by bagging them i'm assuming that you plan on going the chasing route right? if so then be aware of:
-once you enter the doors of a strip club right off the bat most, maybe all, dancers already have somewhere between 0-10% respect for you. it may go up to 20-50%, depending how much some of the dancers think that you're their type looks wise. now here's a tricky part - if you buy some dances from a girl in that 20-50% group you could wind up being in the 0-10% group as most dancers will lose respect for that guy once he starts paying for services. so if chasing refrain from purchasing services and treat your target as a cool civvie and stand out from among the strip club customer norm crowd. doing that increases your bag % dramatically.
here's another tip. using an aspiring actor to a well renowned actor scenario to attempt to illustrate a point.
young kid is standing in line with let's say al pacino at a starbucks. "mr pacino, i'm right now in acting school and was just wondering if you could help me with some pointers. how do you do it?" the kid is looking for a short cut - the fuck - there are no short cuts!!!!
i knew a guy who was with his fave at her apartment. she didn't have any kids but she did own a dog. there were piles of dog shit all over the bath tub. i wonder if he still loves her...
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Don't fall in love with dancers, but also don't waste a lot of time hating them. If a dancer pisses you off for whatever reason, move on to another dancer. This is why clubs have more than one dancer.
Don't fall in love with a dancer, but it's fine (even great) to actually like them. And they can genuinely like you, too. If you can get to that point, then you might even get some preferential treatment (but not always). But always keep in mind that a dancer and a customer genuinely liking each other still falls far short of actual attraction or love.
Don't be creepy.
~ Neurobiologist Amy Farrah Fowler
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“ once you enter the doors of a strip club right off the bat most, maybe all, dancers already have somewhere between 0-10% respect for you. it may go up to 20-50%, depending how much some of the dancers think that you're their type looks wise. now here's a tricky part - if you buy some dances from a girl in that 20-50% group you could wind up being in the 0-10% group as most dancers will lose respect for that guy once he starts paying for services. so if chasing refrain from purchasing services and treat your target as a cool civvie and stand out from among the strip club customer norm crowd. doing that increases your bag % dramatically”
I would say I only respect someone less if they are an asshole. And if you don’t spend any money I’m getting up and going elsewhere. 👍🏼 If you want to see me otc, spending $0 is the opposite way to do that lol.
I remember when I was a baby dancer in 2016 that “buying dances makes you a simp” mentality was more common with younger customers. As time has gone on, I think that mentality is pretty much gone now. Or at least I haven’t encountered the wanna be PUA in a long time. My guess it’s because most millennial men have had their hopes and dreams in life shattered despite what we were told as children and accepted that, and Gen Z didn’t have delusions in the first place. 🥳
Anyways @OP I think the problem gets solved for you mostly if you’re going to clubs not in your hometown. Mostly because who knows if that dancer you saw back then will be there if you end up going back. I’d say just have fun and enjoy the memories.
And you don't have to be a PUA. Not good to be a PUA, it is bull shit.
If you are out of town you might want a local girl to be bedding down with regularly. If so, she will be your mistress.
If you are in your hometown, you still might want a local girl.
Buying dances does make you a simp. Buying dances is a chump's game.
It's not because you are giving up money. The only reason to go into a strip club is if you want to be generous with women. So you will be passing out money.
But this does not mean that you are buying dances. And it is not a "too cool for dances" mentality either. You will be engaging with the girl you approach on your own terms. This is not like being a PUA and it is not like you think you are cool. Its really just because you look at the strip club women just as you would at any other woman. So you are generous, respectful, open and honest.
Best is Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session, and then you invite her to the back room to continue, and then get her outside ASAP for more.
Also, sometimes stage side DATY is possible, so go for it with the girl you have selected. Even dance booth DATY goes a long way towards softening a girl up. One who has refused kissing in the front room, will often be seen to be demonstrably reversing herself.
Its not that you are cool or a PUA, its just that you see her as an ordinary woman.
Approaching her this way you will likely be waking up with her in the mornings. So make your choice.
SJG
Broke bums use the term for anyone who spoils their girl
Are you allowed within 500 feet of a school?
But
Generous with women = p4p
I've never seen a club where you can eat girls out by the stage
"Sorry *I* don't go out with customers", after she saw that I didn't mean it that way and was interacting with her in a completely civilian mode, turned into "I want to SEE you" , left on my old fashioned mechanical tape answering machine the next night.
Not a Casanova, not a PUA, not anything special, I just treat all women as ordinary women.
But I also learned that you shouldn't start anything unless you really intend to finish it. You need to have space in your life to be able to do that.
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You are a customer.
I am a customer.
But only you are deluding yourself.
Back room DATYing is common in some, I can personally atest.
Front Room DATYing is not totally unheard of .
And Icey, the money arrangement is just the external context. So what. It comes with the venue. If you see he outside, anything is possible. I for one see no reason to try and get her to play without money though. No benefit to that.
SJG
I learned with a super cute black girl in SF Market St. Cinema, not pre-planned at all. And then also in our local South Bay Clubs, and then later at an underground place where Latinas were doing Front Room FS, and where DFKing was perfectly common.
SJG
And then it all amounts to the same thing I was doing regularly in AMPS, treating the women as I would any other women, and taking the lead in the situation.
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If a guy has game outside the club and has a history of “bagging” hot chicks, sure he can bag a stripper – but most guys that go to strip-clubs go b/c they don’t have that kinda game; in reality very few guys are able to consistently “bag” hot chicks w/o any commitment.
So the rule-of-thumb more-or-less is that if you don’t generally/regularly score w/ hot-chicks outside the club; don’t expect to score/bag hot strippers you meet at the club; unless you are talking about P4P - 99% of stripper/custy interactions is based on what the cu$ty can do for a stripper and what a stripper can do for the custy.
My last girlfriend was a sweetheart with a Harvard degree. Right now I'm dating a hot physician. They look better naked than most strippers.
_THAT_ is a flex, not Sexual_Assault_Guy thinking strippers go for the bulge in the front of his pants, rather than the bulge in the back.
Bigotry against strippers is similar to other types of bigotry. You focus on certain behaviors by a certain group, and ignore the fact that those behaviors are just common generally. If you find a 23 -year-old virgin who falls in love with you and totally fucks your brains out every night, but never looks at another guy, let me know, I'll admit I'm wrong.
But, as has already been mentioned, strip clubs are not places for finding Mrs. Right, just Mrs. Right Now. If you put the moves on a stripper, or even respond to it when she seems to put some moves on you, it's a unwritten rule that she has the right to assume you are looking for a fantasy relationship, and if you think it's real, that's your problem. Many strippers will only go so far with this, but you never know.
Customers are looking to have some combination of these needs met:
1) Want some level of simulation of a hot hookup.
2) Want to feel like an attractive woman finds them charming and interesting to talk to.
3) Want to feel like a mac daddy.
I am only looking for #1. For that, I enjoy myself the most if I don't try to run game on strippers, and avoid the ones who are trying to run game on me. If you want the other two things, especially #3, it's harder to avoid games. I'll leave it to the rickier PLs to give advice in that area.
Remember, it’s likely any seasoned stripper has heard your best game many times already.
Give it a try. But put some limits on your spending and involvement with dancers.
I remember a line that was something like - don’t confuse the fantasy world inside a strip club with the reality of the outside world.
The only good reason to go to strip clubs is if you like handing money to beautiful women. It makes them feel good.
And you don't have to "bag strippers", as they are no different from other women. Once they see that you have a respectful interest in them, they clack to you like a magnet to a refrigerator door.
A guy learns by the time he is junior high school age that the women who are held up as sex symbols are out of his social league. So would that also apply to the dancers at a place like the Sunnyvale Brass Rail? Only one way of finding out.
My earliest strip club experience, "Sorry *I* don't go out with customers."
Then listening to me talk a little and seeing that I am not a PUA and not what she was concerned about, in a apologetic tone, "You don't unstand, I get hit on by 50 guys a night."
And coming home from work late and pressing the botton on my answering machine, there is her voice, "I want to see you."
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And then all I had given her was couple of bucks at stage side, and then I followed custom and bought her a drink.
I was a cheapass!
The reason she opened up to me was that I was not in any manner treating her as a prostitute. That was what those other 50 guys did. I was just open and on the level with her, and giving her money beyond what I have described was the furthest thing from my mind.
SJG
But for me today, I am totally comfortable with paying Mistress Maintenance.
Its a show of respect.
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Going to the club with Game is far less effective than going to a nightclub or bar. In many ways it may crimp your chances except with new less experienced dancers.
Pro strippers become earning veterans by objectively evaluating customers in terms of their bankroll and not their looks or so-called game. Successful ones treat their best earners with their best efforts.
They are immune to conventional romantic nonsense unless it is accompanied with commensurate compensation
SJG
In a strip club, all you have to do is treat the women in a respectful and open and honest manner and you can have whatever you want.
So identify the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings.
Papi said that a strip club is not a super market for girl friends.
Well, is a super market a super market for girl friends? How about a bank with lots of tellers, or a shopping mall, or a civvie night club?
You don't need a super market, if you just take note of the young women and are open and honest with them, it will happen.
SJG
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In particular, if your wallet is open and honest.
But if a woman is working in a strip club, then that is how she pays her bills.
SJG
This debate is getting stupid
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Don't like it, then don't go there and you will be happier.
SJG
If you don't like that, then best to stay away from strip clubs.
Is it P4P? it depends on how you talk to her. They way I do it, it is just generosity.
That is the reason for strip clubs, for guys who want to be generous with beautiful women. You can't really do it that way in a civvie night club. You like that, right?
SJG
They go to the strip club because they get money which they need to pay their bills.
You go to the strip club when you plan to be passing out money.
So What?
SJG