OT: Infection v vaccination

my odds are with ccp virus, the vaccination has no safety studies

i have been healthy all year

Watch it when you refer to Covid 19 as the Chinese virus. The PC crowd will call you a racist.
I had the virus back in July. Had a slight cough for about 3 days. No effects after that.
My wife had her second shot of the vaccine about two weeks ago. She felt real tired for about a day. Then nothing. My special needs son had the shots at the same time. No effects at all for him. He's 25 though.

Older people's immune systems produce less antibodies -

i dont feel guilt at all being white. i was born that way

I just turned 79 last month and I have stage 3 COPD. So I am being pretty cautious. I have only come in contact with one person with known Covid-19. 2 weeks ago I had 4 pine trees uprooted in my back yard. One slightly hanging on my roof. I shopped around for tree service and gave my business to a 30ish black guy. He told me that he had contacted it 6 months and still was not feeling normal but needed to work. He was on my property for 3 days and was super sensitive to my condition. Wouldn't even use my ladder and had me lay my check down 6 feet away from him to pick up.

My daughter works in a cancer treatment center and got her 2nd Pfizer vaccination 2 weeks ago. She was apprehensive about side effects but had none. I finally got my 1st injection a week ago today. My daughter managed to get me the appointment. I had to drive 50 miles in the fog at 6AM to get it. No worse than my annual flu shot. My appointment for the second Pfizer shot is March 5th and I fully intend to get it. My last VIP was March 12, 2020 and I am ready to get back in the game.

I am thin blue line, I had it no symptons, As for the shot? I have seen " The omega man" to often.

I just now got my first Pfizer shot with a second dose scheduled in a few weeks. I work in the healthcare environment and have been in covid units quite a few times since April. Just make sure I use caution when around them and spend as little time there as possible. Getting the 1st appointment was a pain but the second was set up as I got my 1st. I didn't even realize when she injected me so it was quick and painless. I also arrived 30 minutes early for my appointment and had no lines. There were lines after I waited my 15 minutes on site to make sure I had no reaction.

No COVID that I was symptomatic with, although I think I may have been exposed LAST January.

No vaccine yet but, ASAP when they get to my age group.

Close to several people that have gotten the Moderna shots. First shot = sore arm.... Second shot = much tougher, sore arm, 24-36 hours of nausea, aches and tiredness. Guess they say that means it's working.

Wife got her second shot today (pfizer) - feels a little cold - but is back at work. I know or am related to almost 60 people who have had covid. None have died, many were sick with a mild cold, one was hospitalized for 9 days and another went into the hospital on 12/10 and just went to rehab Monday.

I have several risk factors and have been cautious. Got the first Pfizer shot January 29; absolutely no pain upon injection, then a little bit of a sore arm the next day. No other side effects. Will get the second shot Saturday, and am expecting somewhat more of a reaction (so they say), but nothing that would deter me from wanting to get it. My last encounter with a sex worker was March, 2020. Like shadowcat, I am ready to get back in the game. More than ready.

I finally got a schedule for the vaccine next week then three weeks after that I’m going to go to a strip club for the first time since March of last year

^^^ they finally come to the rest home to give you old farts the shot?

^ Finally 😎

As soon as my group is allowed - I’m going to get online and book an appointment. I was in a nearby CVS the other day where they were vaccinating folks. I would have slipped in line if there was an opening!

I have not had covid but know too many that have so I plan to get the shot as soon as I am eligible, however since I don't fit the age or any medical condition requirements and my job isn't one they need to prioritize it will likely to be the second half of the year before I can get it. My parents finally got appointments for next week to get their first dose and my sister (special needs teacher) just got her second dose last week. She said she felt no side effects from the 1st but had 2-3 days of chills and fatigue from the second.

As for people I know who have had it - about 45 total and about 25 of those said the symptoms were much less severe than the flu. About another dozen were slightly more severe but didn't require hospitalization and I would say there symptoms were along the lines of pneumonia level.

I know 4 people that have spent time in the hospital but were later release. Three of the four have made a full recovery and the fourth was diagnosed with myocarditis as a result.

I know 3 people who have died as a result of covid. They range in age from 48-66. I also know someone who is currently in the ICU and not expected to survive. He was found collapsed outside his job as a diesel mechanic in subfreezing temperatures Tuesday afternoon. Based on the fact that he was young (30) and in good health prior to now and was found foaming at the mouth the EMTs gave him Narcan and were treating it as an overdose initially. It turns out his lungs were so full of fluid that when combined with the strenuous work he was doing and the weather it caused a stroke. He is currently being monitored for any sign of brain activity but the prognosis is bleak.

Given what I've seen I will gladly take my chances with whichever vaccine I can get.

to jab or not to jab that is the question, it is your body, your choice

I’m 62 and had my second dose of Moderna two weeks ago. Zero side effects with #1 and the only issue with #2 was a sore shoulder on day 2 and day 3.

Ready for full contact lap dances again.

Getting my first dose of Moderna next week.

Vaxx up, don't be a douchebag and spread it around the clubs.

My family had the complete range of outcomes. I’m in my mid 40s, found out I had antibodies, was never sick, so I was asymptomatic. My brother, sister in law and brother in law got it bad enough where they were sick for 2 weeks and could barely move. My mom caught it, had some really bad aches, some other flu like symptoms but otherwise was fine. My dad however caught it and didn’t survive. He only lasted 2 weeks and it was the most painful experience of my life to go through. We think my brother in law caught it at work and unknowingly spread it to my parents, and then the rest of us caught it consoling mom and each other after my dad died. Mom has since gotten the vaccine, no issues. To me, the risk of something severe from covid is so much higher than the risk of anything the vaccine could do. Please vaxx up and keep it from spreading. Even if you’re unlikely to have a bad reaction, preventing it from spreading could prevent someone else from having a bad experience like we had.

My next-door-neighbors are a couple in their 60s; they both got it – the husband got thru it w/ barely any issues, the wife felt bad for a a week or two but recovered w/o having to be hospitalized – if I understood correctly, the wife told me post-Covid she’d been having issues w/ an elevated pulse and had been taking meds for it - the times I’ve seen her and spoken to her lately she looks about normal but having asked her about her post-Covid symptoms.

My 91 y/o mom and 84 y/o aunt got their first Pfizer shot last week and due for their 2nd in early-March – so far no side-effects from the vaccine.

I wouldn’t consider myself an anti-vaccer but aslo not a huge fan after having gotten very-sick from a flu-shot in the 90s (and subsequently have never gotten a flu-shot again and thankfully I rarely get a bad cold) – most folks seem to not have issues w/ flu-shots but I’ve known others that had similar bad-reactions – I do plan to get the Covid-vaccine once I’m able to as my biggest concern is possible long-term side-effects from the Rona.

My whole family got Covid. It was like a bad cold.

The Covid vaccine isnt a true vaccine, Pfizer and Moderna, they are gene therapies. They don't protect you from getting or transmitting covid, all they do is reduce symptoms when you get it. This isn't so great because the "symptoms" are actually your immune response meant to fight the illness. So basically, you stay sick but have no symptoms, leading to bigger problems later.

I'm gonna skip this one.

i know a friends grandpa died 2 weeks after the 2cd Jab (phizer) heart breaking

i still have the feeling i will die eventually regardless... i just hope i pass on with a smile on my face.

^"in my bed, of old age, with a belly full of wine and a girl's lips around my cock", right?

I had COVID in June. A mild fever for a few days and then I could not smell or taste my food for five days, but that was it. But I had a younger family member who got more severe symptoms and was laid up for a couple of weeks.

I do not intend to get the vaccine since I should already have some resistance. I also won't put a lightly tested vaccine in my children just to protect them from something that isn't dangerous to them anyway. But I am encouraging Mrs. Dugan to get the vaccine when it is available to our age group because she has some higher risk factors.

^ What a bold defying decision, considering Pfizer isn’t currently approved for those under 16 and Moderna under 18

After the first vaccine dose, felt weak and tired the next day. Second dose didn’t have too many effects. I have no idea why the first dose effected me more when for most it seems to be the opposite.

^ How in the world did you even qualify for the vaccine yet?

Vanilla job

Nicespice dressed as an old woman and snuck into line
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-worl…

Nice spice winked at the guy giving the shots. lol

Article in today’s WSJ predicts that CoVid will essentially be gone by April. The biggest reason is that far more people ( probably 2/3 of the population) have been exposed to the virus, and developed immunity, than can be discovered through testing.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-h…

That’s not an article. It’s an opinion piece written not by an infectious disease specialist, but a surgeon. That said, he’s more of a doctor than I am and I hope he’s right. I’m certainly encouraged by how the pace of vaccination and immunity from surviving the virus is helping. I do have some apprehension about the number of variants, but I’ll wait and see.

^
Mark although I'd love to believe what you just said is accurate I doubt that it is.
I've already stated here that I think this virus or a variation of it is here to stay and we will just have to live with it.
For the record, just as I hope you're right I also hope I'm wrong.


Regarding infection or vaccination, right now I'm going to avoid the vax and hope that I can avoid the virus.

In Florida we have already seen a dramatic drop in positivity rates since the vaccinations started. If you extrapolate out from the 1.8 million confirmed cases using CDC prevalence estimates, we've probably had around 9 million actual cases including the asymptomatics (which are the bulk of all cases). That is 40% of the state's population. Now another 12% of the population, largely old people who were not likely part of the original 40%, have been vaccinated.

So we are already likely at around 50% immunity and rising fast. Once we get all the seniors vaccinated and start on the next level down, I expect the positivity rates to nosedive even more. I could very easily see some level of herd immunity in FL by April.

AZ numbers are dropping also. April seems a bit too soon (although it would be great if it was right on). I'm not eligible for the vaccine now. Hoping by the time I am the new one dose Johnson and Johnson will be available. I have heard summer for everyone to be eligible but I don't know if that's for the current ones or if that would include the Johnson and Johnson one.

Pharmacies would have to be the ones to administer the shots in AZ in summer if that's the case. 110 to 120 degrees. I don't see the drive through sites working (meaning people aren't going to be out there all day giving the shots in the summer).

^ yeah, but it's a DRY heat

Some people got both vaccine shots and still catch Covid positive after. On the news today.

95% does not equal 100%.

I have had both shots of the Maderna vaccine. 1st one a bit of a sore arm but that was gone and a day and was never bad. 2nd one last week, arm was much more tender for a few days. Day after I had the blahs, but by the 2nd day felt pretty good. My wife had a stronger reaction then I did to both shots. Day after 2nd shot she wanted to just nap all day.
When you are eligible get the damn shot it ain’t that bad.

A little perspective from Arizona. At the current rate of 1,500 cases per day, there are about 20,000 people with active CoVid out of 7.3 Million. That’s one person per 350. As someone who takes reasonable precautions, I like my odds.

I’m ready to stop taking reasonable precautions and get some strippers on my lap. Get your vax so we can get back to normal. I’m too young but will likely get it when eligible.

@desertscrub
I heard about a guy who was in excellent health, got the corona virus vaccine and two hours later he was dead, poor guy got hit by a car after receiving the the shot in a local Publix .

I also heard about a guy who was in excellent health, got the corona virus vaccine and two hours later he was dead. It will never be published by any of the government controlled agencies, but in EVERY known adverse outcome related to the Covid vaccine dihydrogen monoxide had been consumed in some form within 48 hours of the inoculation. Beware this deadly combination!

Got the first dose of Pfizer vaccine this week. Second shot scheduled for 2nd week of March.

No concerns about the vaccine. Looking forward to seeing my family, SBs and other friends.

I had some initial concerns due to the sparsity of data. Now with a sample size of over 60 million doses administered in America over the last 2 months, I am much more assured. Most adverse effects, such as Guillain-Barre syndrome, would have manifested in the first 6 weeks. I will take Pfizer or Moderna when offered. Still not convinced about Astrazeneca yet.

big tech /pharma and media says get the Jab, what could go wrong

I completed the two dose pfizer process well over a month ago as did several coworkers in my general age range (40-50). Almost all of us had slightly sore shoulders for a few hours afterward but nothing more. Mankind has been designing and manufacturing vaccines for decades now. And the two out now have amazing efficacy we’re just not sure how long it lasts. Most of us in our current hospital setting don’t understand the current vaccine paranoia. The first day it was offered all the “greatest minds” in the hospital were there in line for it. I’m referring the all the MD’s in particular the immunologists and infectious disease specialists.

looks like the effects of the vaccine are mixed, some people have a little or no problems, and other people have major or serious problems after taking the shot. Just like the corona virus= some people say it is just like having a minor cold, and other people say it was a major illness or worse.

I had my shots! All 8 of them!!


Oh wait that was vodka.......

I was talking to a guy in his 60s and asked him if he'd gotten the Covid-vaccine - he said no and was not gonna get it - he said he had an allergic reaction to a vaccine when he was younger and almost died (I didn't inquire as to what allergy he may have nor which type vaccine it was).

Perhaps the rumored cases of some deaths due to the Rona vaccine could fall under this scenario (some type of allergy that does not react well to it)?

I never wanted to get any vaccinations but, if I want to be allowed to work in hospitals, I have to get a flu vaccine every year. I have had a reaction where I just want to stay in be the day after a couple of times. Hasn't happened in the last 5 years, however.

I spend times in covid units since April so, if I want to be free to move on with life, it's to my advantage to get the vaccine.

I got my first dose last week. People complain about feeling lethargic but I was the opposite. I didn't feel bad or have any pain in the injection location but I kept waking up that night. Finally, at 3am, I said forget it and got out of bed. I felt like I had been injected with speed or cocaine. I did crash the next night but I didn't feel lethargic.

First vax done. I was told it was Moderna. I had slight pain late that evening. I barely slept the next two nights, and had to put off my upper body day at the gym because my arm hurt so badly. Every time I rolled over on my left side, the pain woke me up. For three days, I was limited in my range of motion. It was incedibly painful to raise my arm more halfway from my body. I did not have any headachea or fever, though.

They are supposed to be scheduling the second dose at the same appt where you receive your fist dose. I was told they were not doing that, and we would get a scheduling call in about three weeks. Unfortunately, I believe that means they have a low degree of confidence that they will receive an adequate supply for everyone to receive a second dose at the four week mark, or that they think second doses will be skipped entirely. Apparently, researchers believe the first dose of Moderna provides 80% efficacy; which exceeds the Chinese Sinovac (50%), Astrazeneca (75%), and J&J (67%). Maybe they've decided 80% is good enough?

Had my first dose of Pfizer two weeks ago. The injection might as well have been distilled water for all the effects I felt. Next injection is 8 days away. Hopefully, it will be the same.

Mrs. Dr. gammanu#1 and I had our second doses of the Moderna vax and it fucking sucked.

The needlesticks were done by a different nurse with a steadier hand, and were initially less painful. However, onset of injection site pain and swelling was much more rapid. After about 6 hours I was having trouble focussing. I was sitting at my desk, spacing out a bit. I had to work slowly and be very deliberate about my tasks, just to avoid spacing out again.

After I got home, I started feeling pretty warm/feverish, so I turned in early while continuing to feel more sick. I woke up 3AM in a cold sweat, shivering violently, while under a sheet and a heavy comforter. I was awake for about 30 minutes for that shit. I made it into work, barely. She did not. She woke up, sweating buckets, and began throwing up immediately. She never left the house and barely left the bed. I was able to get about 2 hours in at work with the clerical staff before I left to work from home. I was sweating buckets, it took massive effort to breath, real brain fog. Body-wide pain, pins and needles, muscle spasms. I felt feverish as fuck, but two different thermometers (I/R and oral) both confirmed normal temp. I got home and just took it easy. The worst of it was over by the next morning, but I felt like I had an exposition fight with Dwayne Johnson. I had aches and sweating for three days after. I hope this was fucking worth it. I've scheduled an antibody panel for myself in two weeks to make sure it did.

^ wow - how long was it b/w doses?

I heard someone on TV opining that it may not be a good-idea for those that already have antibodies to get the vaccine and that this may be behind the bad reaction some folks get - not saying this applies to you but something to keep in mind for those that have already had the virus knowingly or unknowingly.

I've heard other stories of people that have had some side-effects to the vaccine and for some it's remained (not sure if it's been permanent) - this is something I go back-and-forth on and IDK if it's better to just get the antibodies via the virus or the vaccine (I haven't gotten the virus nor have I've been vaccinated yet).

I had a 103 temp + extreme chills and body aches after my second shot. Lasted two days and now I feel great.

^ which one did you get?

I have received both shots (Pfizer). The only side effects were tiredness the evening after each shot along with tenderness at the injection site (and that lasted about 24 hours). No other issues....looking forward to being back!!

I fking want a vaccine so bad. I'm immunocompromised with Hashimoto's disease. Ford Field in Detroit is trying vaccinate thousands per day and whenever I try to sign up, I keep getting put on a fucking waiting list. It's pissing me off. I am currently sick with something that's a mystery to me. I'm waiting on the results of my second covid test now. My doctor asked me to get a second in case the first was a false negative.

@Papi

It was four weeks between shots.

^^Waffle, I got my 21 year old son an appointment at Ford Field for this week. Sign up!

Got Moderna here, 28 days apart

First shot = arm soreness, same as if I'd done heavy shoulder presses at the gym, lasted 2 days
Second shot = less arm soreness, mild fever, fatigue, and body aches the next day, fine after that

I get my first shot Tuesday so if I am not here afterwards I recommend against it.

1st Shot (Moderna) 6 days ago. I may have slept a little more than usual afterwards and I had mild arm soreness on day 2.

Got my first Pfizer shot a couple of weeks ago. Maybe was a little fatigued the next day but might have imagined it. After that second shot is the universal crap shoot