How To Pay Off Debt? Find A Sugardaddy!!!!

Why doesn't everyone come to TUSCL for advice on everything ?

"You just have to go on dates and hang out with them."

They don't realize they aren't going to get that allowance without being a cum dumpster.

Little does this girl realize that the $10k she needs equates to 254 blowjobs, 128 sessions, 12 vagina waxings, 57 appointments where she gets ghosted, 3 gyno appointments, 25 cornholes, 12 dirty sanchezes, and 2 blumpkins.

Very nice video, that was great with that guy at the end. Interesting debate I thought. My take is the money is there if they want it. Get it while they can, shit ain't gonna be there at 45, get it now. Be careful obviously, but I don't see how it's more dangerous then say online dating. Same precautions to take.

One thing though that needs to be said to these girls out there, all these people judging you, giving advice, jumping up on the pedestal, all these people you see on TV saying all kinds of stuff, they will absolutely not be paying your bills. Just keeping it real.

I never understood the point of sugar dating. To my understanding most of them make like bullshit money, 500-1000 a week for fucking more than once or twice a week. That is just too much fucking too little money, sorry. Plus it is pretty easy to make 500-1000 a week without any qualifications at a regular job. I am just gonna guess a lot of these girls are too lazy to learn how to hustle w/o doing sex acts or too lazy to work a regular job. LOL keeping it real

I didn't watch the video. If all she needs is $10k she can get it fast enough w/o the hoeing, but whatever ppl gonna do what ppl wanna do including too much for too little. ugh

$1,000 a week equals $52,000 a year. Please tel me where someone with no qualifications can get a $52,000 a year job. I know people with multiple masters degrees that don’t make that. Of course I also know people who didn’t graduate high school that make 10 times that too.

$500 a week equals $26,000 a year. Yeah you can find those jobs with little to no qualifications.

Honestly 1k a week she can do at the club, on webcam. She can get a regular no qualifications low paying job that gives out shit tons of overtime tho that is not sustainable long term. I just really dont see why girls would fuck so much for so little lol but that's just my pov.

^Well, when your pussy is dried up maybe you’ll wish you fucked a little more in your younger days.

Funny Shailyn, I was thinking the same thing. Plus a $52k job is really $42-43k after taxes, employer costs, soc security, a little modest 3% for the 401k... When you look at $250 tax free plus perhaps a meal and alcohol for a few hours, it’s like earning $400 in the real world and actually a great hourly wage, but dancers become oblivious to the real world and that’s why so many of them make shitty SBs.

^Right ok, I've received offers to fuck and a lot higher than that- still no thanks, faggot.

->@shailynn: “ $1,000 a week equals $52,000 a year. Please tel me where someone with no qualifications can get a $52,000 a year job.“

Covid unemployment benefits. In Cali, the minimum rate was $1050/week ($450 state, $600 federal) mid-March thru July = $54,600 annualized. Short term, ya, and had to be employed before covid hit, but that’s the minimum of what employees in shut down businesses (strippers, restaurant workers etc) were making. Friend of mine runs a moving business and he couldn’t get his guys to return to work when that sector reopened in June cuz his guys were making more sitting on couch playing video games

->@blah: “I just really dont see why girls would fuck so much for so little lol but that's just my pov.“

Care to state what weekly $ amount would be persuasive?

Some comments on the sugaring scene after being involved for five years and participating in the Reddit forum:

(1) There is a small percentage of very attractive girls who get platonic arrangements and get paid to "hang out." My guess? Approximately 1 in 1000. So fluff pieces like the Yahoo are misleading but not technically false.

(2) My guess is that over half the girls on SA never find anyone and have a salary of exactly zero. I'm leaving out the Backpage transplants that have car-dates for sex on a moment's notice (but those are not SBs).

(3) Maybe 97% of the guys are chasing the same 3% of the girls and girls in this category do indeed get to choose who they are sleeping with and make a good amount of money. Contrary to what @Blah is saying, a college-girl with goals and a plan in life, sleeping with an older ophthalmologist, is in a much different situation than a stripper grinding on random dicks all night. It may technically be a benign form of prostitution -- but it's not nearly as degrading, dangerous, and emotionally draining as stripping. Not very many girls are in this position; they have to very attractive and they have to be able to carry on a conversation.

Except everyone keeps forgetting that stripping u dont have to fuck. Shit you dont even have to be touched. And make more money than these sugar babies w/o doing fucked up nasty shit.

^^^ lol, I guess you're one of a handful of strippers that make over $50K/yr doing air dances. Just like the 0.1% of the sugaring girls that make over $50K in platonic arrangements.

There's only one supply-and-demand curve, dear. And the sugaring scene has blown that curve in our favor. Witness, over 70K members on the Reddit sugaring forum.

Blah you sound the dancers in stripperweb now. Don't have to be touched? Just like all the guys of TUSCL who claim to get FS for $100. Totally believable🙄

^No touching at all (hands on the side, Utah club style)? Ya right, that's a real money maker.

Just going to pop in here to clarify that I’m about 90% sure blah was referring to one-way contact, not air dances. Imo something like that would be impossible to pull off in Texas. But some of these other clubs (especially in northern states), I don’t view 50k as unrealistic if you work consistently enough.

Also, don’t mind me I’m just going to crack up at the idea that an ophthalmologist is what is propped up as THE shining example of an ideal sugar daddy. 😂 Don’t get me wrong, they contribute to society and yes they make good income.

BUT if we want to make classist and pretentious comments and make jabs against dancing—or fucking in cars on a sugar date—I just want to point out there are incomes (And subsequently, potential sugar allowances) out there that are higher than an ophthalmologist. And some may argue that unless one is getting a minimum of $XXXX, that isn’t a true sugar relationship either.

And who is Rando to decide what is an acceptable sugar “relationship” anyways?

(I personally think the whole concept is a zero sum game, and most of the time one party is absolutely fleecing the other. But that’s just an opinion and don’t mind me)

@nicespice “…sugar “relationship”…”

lol. It’s just modern day prostitution with a sugary name. Johns looking to buy sex and women on the (electronic) stroll who no longer have to stand out in the rain. I get the shame part of some guys needing to dress it up as something sweet and less “dirty” and “low class” but as the saying goes “you’re not fooling anyone” (especially not here).

So say it loud and say it proud…

Lol, @BabyDick, look about five posts above where I called sugaring a "benign form of prositution." Do you really think you're teaching me anything, dipshit?

...and @SpicyGirl I don't mean to be condescending -- but do you know the difference b/w an optometrist and an ophthalmologist? Lol, you don't know the difference, do you? The comment was based on a real-life sugar couple and a prominent opthamogist who lives in Cherry Hills.

"opthamogist"

^ wow! You cant even spell ophthalmologist. Do you even knpw what an ophthalmologist is?

Yes rando, I am capable of google searches.

“A median expected salary for an average ophthalmologist is as high as $254,000/yr while an annual salary for a self-employed ophthalmologist is about $300,000.”

So yes, definitely men who do well and once again nothing but respect from me. But, unless they are really in love, they are less likely to drop the $5k/mo base minimum that many would consider a “true” sugar daddy. (As opposed to just simply bargain basement FSSW) Would somebody like you drop ~20-25% gross income, especially if trying to avoid being noticed by a spouse?

So can we agree that most arrangements are the thrift store shopping of the sex world, and who are you to act all superior? Not an attack on character, hell I enjoy shopping at thrift stores. But I don’t ever pretend it’s classy. 😂

@nicespice I actually agree with you that most of these guys looking for an arrangement is them being cheap and trying to get something for less than fair value
But still I sincerely doubt most of these sugar babies can command the dollars that they’re looking for.

Cherry Hills is a high class area

https://g.co/kgs/3tKCxu

^ crazyjoe wins 😂😂

@Spice wrote: "So can we agree that most arrangements are the thrift store shopping of the sex world"
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No, I didn't say that at all. Maybe you're talking about @Warrier's post where he kept spreadsheet-level details of fucking some girl 16 times in 4 days and coming here to brag about getting a good deal. I thought the post was goofy, but was too polite to make any comment.

Go back and read my post. Most girls fail to get an arrangement at all. There's a handful of girls that make serious money without grinding on random dicks all night.

It's Cherry Hills Villiage.

@twentyfive Probably not, but it is a baseline that sets the tone for pretentious individuals (like RandomMember) to feel like they can pretend to be at a certain level they are not. If people are playing along with it for fun and loopholes against law enforcement, then meh. But some really take things too seriously.

On the stripper side, you find stuff like this.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/770721889/s…

@nicespice Cute and that Etsy stuff being so popular, tells me most of the girls aren't banking like they claim. After all the rap music about Prada and Gucci and Lambo's an such

Yes I am well aware of Warrior15 being loud and proud of his deals. And I can’t troll him for it because he would most likely shrug and laugh if I even tried to mock him over it. Unlike with you where I can have fun with it, and yes I think I will take your suggestion to re-read your posts later. They are great.

Hey I get it. I bought a Banana Republic branded dress a few days ago that would have been, what, $60-$100 new? I got it for $3. 😁 And what’s up with the point most girls don’t end up in arrangements? Most clothes from thrift stores probably don’t get bought either.

Hmm randommember, is this where you are talking about? This is where they are building a new sewage plant. Not very nice to bring a sugar baby to an area like that i would assume...


https://goo.gl/maps/fxZsZopiUUykdkpw6

I just did a quick google search for randommember and found him on YouTube

https://youtu.be/LmZIBZ1aUHY

It all makes sense now

@nicespice “A median expected salary for an average ophthalmologist is as high as $254,000/yr while an annual salary for a self-employed ophthalmologist is about $300,000.”


lol. That’s not even the average income for TUSCL members.

On a more serious note and not that you ever would, but if one day you decided to become a gold digger, uhhh I mean a trophy wife for some doctor then I strongly encourage you to look at his books first.

You would be amazed at the high percentage of doctors who are broke ass fucks. Between malpractice insurance, student loan debt, ex-wives, skanky whores uhh I mean mistresses, buying shit they can’t afford to project an image of success, and most of all being stupid when it comes to finances you are likely to end up on the short end of any arrangement.

I know doctors who are still practicing into their 70s not because they love medicine but because they are broke ass fucks. So if you ever want to go the gold digger route then you will definitely do much better financially to find yourself a self employed plumber. Guaranteed!

^ Sugar daddy task #1...ACTUALLY GO TO A CLUB. You can do it and I believe in you.

...Please daddy? 🥺

Also, what BabyDoc said was very enlightening yet unsurprising.

Well I haven't posted on tuscl for a while I have been too busy banging sugar babies. But some of the nonsense that has been posted here is too crazy not to speak up lol.

Look blahblah and nicespice you guys know I love you but I think some of what you are saying is YOUR perspective on how sugaring doesn't make sense for YOU. A lot of girls WANT to be sugar babies and think stripping or FSSW is totally crazy or disgusting.

Some SBs want to sugar to fulfill their own emotional needs, to be taken care of, to have a mentor, to have a friend, they have daddy issues, it fulfills a fantasized version of traditional gender roles, attraction to older men, validation, or they don't have time for traditional dating but want a FWB.

Part of the difficulty in discussing sugaring is that it is so varied. Some sugar arrangements are like FSSW and others are like a marriage. But even with arrangements that are closer to FSSW a lot of times the sugar baby wants some of the elements of sugaring so they don't have to deal with the psychological realization that they are a sex worker.

As far as the comments that sugar daddies are just guys that want bargain basement FSSW. I definitely don't agree. In my area on the escorting forum the normal 1hr price is $200 which frequently is an in call where a meet with a SB averages $300 and that is before dinner/drinks/gifts/experiences plus getting a nice hotel.

You could argue that a SB is giving up a whole evening versus an escort is only giving up an hour. That would absolutely be an apt argument. But a lot of people who are into sugaring both SB and SDs WANT to spend the additional time together on non-sexual activities like dinner/shopping/movies/etc. If you read the sugaring forum there are SBs who post all the time about how they are unsatisfied with the relationship they have with their SD because it's just sex in a hotel and they WANT a comprehensive relationship.

God dammit Joe! Is that the sewage plant that overflowed and I had to go unclog it?

Anyway, I ain't got time for dis now. I got a sugary baby cummin to da shit truck for a sugar date in da sleeper, tryl

Anyway whatever I dont get the sugaring thing for some $$$$ amounts.

Yes I meant 1 way touch. I used to be all into 2 way touch dances until I found out you can make hundreds w 1 way touch and no this doesnt work in every club in every area- I'm not stupid.

I most definitely get touched for higher $$$ amts in private rooms to be clear*

I just meant I cant be bothered w that for cheapo dances anymore it just brings out the little murderer in me 🔪🔪🔪.

—>“Some SBs want to sugar to fulfill their own emotional needs, to be taken care of, to have a mentor, to have a friend, they have daddy issues, it fulfills a fantasized version of traditional gender roles, attraction to older men, validation, or they don't have time for traditional dating but want a FWB.”

If this is to be believed, average sugar arrangements last 2-4 months.
http://www.topsugardaddysites.org/how-lo…

From the point of view of emotional fulfillment, seems weak to me. And I say that as an individual who personally DOES prefer older men in personal life.

Also, why has dinner and drinks more than once been included as some type of perk? Is it really that much of a plus when all that restaurant food and alcohol has to make me (and I assume other women as well) monitor my body weight more? Seems like it adds more stress than anything from that standpoint. Good lord, I am not the best cook, but I can prepare a few stuff on my own.

I view sugar babies—seeking emotional validation from a man cheating on his wife—yet simultaneously would be bothered by sugar babies openly admitting to having more than one daddy...a very odd source of validation. Especially when he’s just simply well-to-do and not wealthy.

But hey, I guess there are (imo) more strange sources of emotional validation some in the industry would go for. I guess I’d rather accept a seeking arrangement type of thing for emotional validation than, for example, a pimp. 💁🏻‍♀️So I concede that.

^ 👍😂😂

Btw, I noticed Blah’s ignores went from 16 to 17 and mine 17 to 18 pretty recently and I kinda suspect this thread had something to do with it. And glancing back at my posts my language might be a little harsh.

BUT I do want to say that nobody should take it as a personal attack. If I was a customer, I’d be deal hunting with absolutely no shame for the maximum about EVERYTHING I could get too. After all, I am that way in several aspects of my life as I am right now,

And some girl who is too lazy to do any type of research before dipping her toes into the industry would be high on my priority list. 😁

Goddamn, I live in the worst city for sugar dating (with regards to using sites like SA or Secret Benefits). 90% of the "daddies" have some usasexguide expectations and think giving more than $150 a week or $200 once a month is pushing their budget. And a lot of them want unprotected sex on top of that. Deactivated my SB account and probably only visit SA once every three or so months because I find that the best sugar arrangements start at the club, not online.

@nicespice - I get it. You don't want any of the parts of sugaring that sugar babies like. But girls that choose sugaring like all of the extra stuff.

Once when I was first transitioning into sugaring I tried REALLY hard to convince this girl that sugaring wasn't for her. For a lot of reasons she would have been a better fit as a stripper and would have banked. But she would not hear of it. The idea was totally repulsive to her. I even offered to help her get started but she was totally opposed to it. This wasn't a situation where she was unaware of the potential income difference or there was a barrier to entry. She wanted to be a sugar baby.

I guess idk I have some experiences with dudes in the clubs and outside the clubs to where I just think that fucking multiple times a week for 1k is plain stupid. Guys can be very giving creatures and doing all that for that little is just not necessary. I don't have daddy issues or whatever. The whole mentor thing or whatever like idk u can do that non sexually. Like whatever. I personally won't ever comprehend this sugaring thing for like meh moneys, but I guess as long as these girls are happy and loving life then that is all that matters.

Heaving stated it well. As did PaulDrake. Okay, fair point, I’m the type of person who likes to be affectionate and friendly, but I still prefer to keep a clear line between what is real and what is not. And perhaps I shouldn’t be so quick to criticize those who feels differently.

RandomMember clearly has a lot of love for his Ophthalmologist sugar daddy. And who cares if some judgmental individual like me would consider that not a “true” sugar daddy. It’s clearly real for him.

I concur with what nice & blah are saying, however, the way you get the girls to fuck you that think would not do it for under 1K is you give them cocaine

It looks like RandomMember posted in another thread going after Mark94, but has stayed out of this one recently...

Must be busy fucking his ophthalmologist sugar daddy in Cherry Hills Village and doesn’t have enough free time at the moment. 🤓

^ He has been at my house :^)