Seeing as how both Waffle and SLD are on his list and he still reads all of their posts and even still responds to Waffle, I don't think being on his list would help you.
You're not wrong. There's something about the way that he thinks that I understand. Its like we both speak the same native language and have been trying our whole lives to translate everyone else's language into our own (albeit poorly).
The way I am is that if someone is close to me, the opinions that strangers, acquaintances, or casual friends have of that person will never matter. Most people seem so concerned about their social status that if enough pressure is exerted on them, they will abandon their close friends. The average person thinks that if nobody else likes you then they shouldn't either. If they become friends with you, even close to you, and later come to the conclusion that nobody else likes you, they too will abandon you. Thus, why I don't trust the average person anymore. The average person has no true sense of loyalty. Their loyalties are spread out to numerous different people rather than the ones who truly matter. I only trust people who are willing to abandon their social status and become an outcast in defense of a friend. That is a rare quality and it is one that I know SJG has.
Everyone has a right to free speech including the left wingers. I would think as a conservative that you should believe in that more strongly than anyone given how its primarily the left that is trying to censor everyone.
CC99 Or DC whatever You’re calling yourself these days, I’m anti-political except when I see people posting politically bent stupid narratives like SJG. Your assumption me being a conservative is based on ignorance, part of the reason why I’m so anti-left wing propaganda which focuses on the stupid and ignorant and garnering their votes.
Name one logical and realistic view that SJG has created a tread about in terms of politics? You can’t nwvause it doesn’t exist.
It doesn't matter how much sense it makes. The point is that the way a person talks and the opinions they hold should not be used as a form of character judgment. I oppose left-wing propaganda for the precise reason that many on the left try to claim that those who disagree with them are evil racist/sexist/homophobe whatever. We should be allowed to debate whatever opinions we want without having to worry that the other person is going to hate us for the opinions we hold. That's precisely the vision the founding fathers had for our country and if you oppose the propaganda which demonizes all opponents so much you should be in favor of that vision too.
@DC >The point is that the way a person talks and the opinions they hold should not be used as a form of character judgment. < Thats as dumb as a bag of rocks, what better way than that is there to form a judgement about them and their character !
By looking at their actions, not their words. Words are just words. I judge a person by whether they go out and assault somebody or rob someone. Lots of people say stupid shit that they will disagree with someday or aren't all that serious about. I one time met a girl who told me masturbation was a sin and we should never do it. Guess how much she masturbated...?
5-6 times a day. Even I don't fap that much and my dick produces semen like a tap water faucet.
Truthfully it's not worth taking people's opinions to be the constitution of how they will act.
^ and here on an anonymous forum you base your opinion on actions that you haven’t seen only read about sorry son that’s just plain dumb and a contrary position taken because your bored and just looking for entertainment sorry but I have a business to run there’s nothing to debate here so stop or don’t IDGAF
A person's statements and opinions are a reflection of their character. A disingenuous or hypocritical statement / opinion is also a reflection of character. One might argue even more so.
The forming and voicing of an opinion, truthful or not, is an action in and of itself.
But I believe you know this already and you're picking a fight just to pick a fight. Which is tedious.
Our whole constitution is founded on the idea that our ideas should not be suppressed. Ideas should fight one another but should not be suppressed by the government or by mob behavior. Doxxing people is mob tyranny, banning people from social media sites is mob tyranny, harassing people and sending them death threats for their opinions is mob tyranny.
Mob tyranny results from people desiring to harm one another for their opinions and ignoring their actions.
You need to realize that I have a dicking around mode and a serious mode. Obviously not everything I say is completely genuine because I'm in dicking around mode and busting your balls. Isn't that what you guys told me to do? To have more of a sense of humor and stop taking everything so seriously? If I'm talking in an intentionally over-dramatic I'm probably in dicking around mode. Sometimes I do exaggerate because I have a bit of a flair for the dramatic and like using deliberately provocative words because I find it really funny to say stuff like that. Several friends of mine do the exact same thing. Taking a long shit becomes "severe gastrointestinal damage" and a baby whining a little in the store becomes "the bloodcurdling screams of infants." A trip to the grocery store will demand the most epic, battle music imaginable and numerous other things like that. We find intentionally acting over-dramatic to be very funny.
I can say that I genuinely support people's ability to have debates about ideas without incurring people's hatred. You should not hate the other person because of their ideas or opinions. Even if someone has a potentially toxic idea, you'd be surprised at how much more productive it is to simply ask them why they think that and then work through it than to demonize the person. When you suppress a person or tell them what a horrible or stupid or weird person they are for thinking a certain way, that only serves to make them angrier and more stubbornly cling to what they believe.
That was my serious mode. You can engage with it if you want but if you go into dicking around mode yourself than I will as well.
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SJG
@PaulDrake, getting owned by SJG is something you will not want to put on your resume.
He's just stubborn about his opinions, that's all. 98% of my interactions with him have been pleasant.
You're not wrong. There's something about the way that he thinks that I understand. Its like we both speak the same native language and have been trying our whole lives to translate everyone else's language into our own (albeit poorly).
The way I am is that if someone is close to me, the opinions that strangers, acquaintances, or casual friends have of that person will never matter. Most people seem so concerned about their social status that if enough pressure is exerted on them, they will abandon their close friends. The average person thinks that if nobody else likes you then they shouldn't either. If they become friends with you, even close to you, and later come to the conclusion that nobody else likes you, they too will abandon you. Thus, why I don't trust the average person anymore. The average person has no true sense of loyalty. Their loyalties are spread out to numerous different people rather than the ones who truly matter. I only trust people who are willing to abandon their social status and become an outcast in defense of a friend. That is a rare quality and it is one that I know SJG has.
He's creepy as fuck and crazy like a bicycle made out of baby parts.
Personal opinion...
He needs to be banned, not ignored.
Everyone has a right to free speech including the left wingers. I would think as a conservative that you should believe in that more strongly than anyone given how its primarily the left that is trying to censor everyone.
You’re calling yourself these days, I’m anti-political except when I see people posting politically bent stupid narratives like SJG. Your assumption me being a conservative is based on ignorance, part of the reason why I’m so anti-left wing propaganda which focuses on the stupid and ignorant and garnering their votes.
Name one logical and realistic view that SJG has created a tread about in terms of politics? You can’t nwvause it doesn’t exist.
It doesn't matter how much sense it makes. The point is that the way a person talks and the opinions they hold should not be used as a form of character judgment. I oppose left-wing propaganda for the precise reason that many on the left try to claim that those who disagree with them are evil racist/sexist/homophobe whatever. We should be allowed to debate whatever opinions we want without having to worry that the other person is going to hate us for the opinions we hold. That's precisely the vision the founding fathers had for our country and if you oppose the propaganda which demonizes all opponents so much you should be in favor of that vision too.
>The point is that the way a person talks and the opinions they hold should not be used as a form of character judgment. <
Thats as dumb as a bag of rocks, what better way than that is there to form a judgement about them and their character !
By looking at their actions, not their words. Words are just words. I judge a person by whether they go out and assault somebody or rob someone. Lots of people say stupid shit that they will disagree with someday or aren't all that serious about. I one time met a girl who told me masturbation was a sin and we should never do it. Guess how much she masturbated...?
5-6 times a day. Even I don't fap that much and my dick produces semen like a tap water faucet.
Truthfully it's not worth taking people's opinions to be the constitution of how they will act.
The forming and voicing of an opinion, truthful or not, is an action in and of itself.
But I believe you know this already and you're picking a fight just to pick a fight. Which is tedious.
>But I believe you know this already and you're picking a fight just to pick a fight. Which is tedious.<
Thanks for translating for the slow kid ; )
Mob tyranny results from people desiring to harm one another for their opinions and ignoring their actions.
SJG
You need to realize that I have a dicking around mode and a serious mode. Obviously not everything I say is completely genuine because I'm in dicking around mode and busting your balls. Isn't that what you guys told me to do? To have more of a sense of humor and stop taking everything so seriously? If I'm talking in an intentionally over-dramatic I'm probably in dicking around mode. Sometimes I do exaggerate because I have a bit of a flair for the dramatic and like using deliberately provocative words because I find it really funny to say stuff like that. Several friends of mine do the exact same thing. Taking a long shit becomes "severe gastrointestinal damage" and a baby whining a little in the store becomes "the bloodcurdling screams of infants." A trip to the grocery store will demand the most epic, battle music imaginable and numerous other things like that. We find intentionally acting over-dramatic to be very funny.
I can say that I genuinely support people's ability to have debates about ideas without incurring people's hatred. You should not hate the other person because of their ideas or opinions. Even if someone has a potentially toxic idea, you'd be surprised at how much more productive it is to simply ask them why they think that and then work through it than to demonize the person. When you suppress a person or tell them what a horrible or stupid or weird person they are for thinking a certain way, that only serves to make them angrier and more stubbornly cling to what they believe.
That was my serious mode. You can engage with it if you want but if you go into dicking around mode yourself than I will as well.