"What would you charge?"

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• wiffle shwaffle

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  5 years ago

  Side note: when I worked at my first club as a baby stripper, I saw two girls get their asses beat at two separate times by the veteran girls for charging $80-$100 for FS. I only worked there for about 2.5 weeks and rarely went to vip. My hustle was selling 2 for $10 condoms to the girls. The bouncers sold them for $10 each. 😂
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  5 years ago

  So many factors... And so many lies... On USASG, no guy wants to admit that he paid $400 for a blowjob. They also don't even want to admit to paying the local market rate. When I see guys make pricing claims, I always add $100 to $150 and figure that's in the region of being accurate. On the dancer side, I'd subtract about $100 to $200 from their claim (or more) on average. Variables include club, region, and looks. In Providence, I can go to the Wild Zebra and get everything I want for $200 or so. Sometimes less. But it's going to be with a dancer that is typically referred to as a "slam pig" around here. Or, I can go literally 800 yards up the same road to Club Desire and get the same services from a smokeshow dancer... but I'm (happily) paying twice or more what I'd spend at Wild Zebra. Years ago, I had a blunt conversation with a dancer at the Cadillac Lounge about this stuff. She told me that she started quoting what she thought was the average local rate, and then started raising her prices until roughly 6 or 7 out of 10 guys took the bait. She figured that weeded out the 3-4 bargain hunters and put her prices at an accurate "market + hotness". It worked for her.
• wiffle shwaffle

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  5 years ago

  I have no idea why, but I never thought to consider the prices on USASG to be potential lies. I hope so. Like, I know a lot of you want to get your rocks off, but hopefully pay for quality with that price. I think it was the latest review for H8 near Detroit where a girl told the reviewer she sucks off about 10 guys in one night. And he paid $80 (I think). God damn. I'm not a fan of girls feeling entitled or having GPS, but $80? Unless she has a habit or a pimp, she should seriously raise that price a little (I know it's H8 still though) if her customer base is averaging 10 BJ and 2-3 FS. Standards. Seriously.
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  5 years ago

  Quality is a sliding scale for a lot of guys... Based on your images, those guys aren't your target audience.
• samiel

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  5 years ago

  Just around my local area, I know dancers who vary wildly in prices. I know girls who won't go below $250 for anything. I know girls who will do BBBJ for $100. I know girls who start at $750. For dancers, I'd look for the average rate if you can. One possible calculation to use is based on average housing costs in the area and divide by four. So $1000 housing translates into $250 for FS. It's not exact by any means, but it's a start. It all depends on what you're personally willing to do. $100 for FS will definitely get other dancers mad at you, but hey, it might be worth the risk if you can get the volume. Also ITC and OTC prices tend to vary wildly as well.
• rickdugan

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  5 years ago

  I'd be inclined to believe the USASG guys. But to be accurate, when it comes to strip clubs, those numbers are usually tips on top of the room/dance prices. So in a club where LDs are $30 and a guy finishes from her BJ after 4 songs. he's paying the $80 tip on top of the $120 that he pays for the dances - so she gets $200 for 12 minutes of her time all in. Or if she blew him in a timed room, then she's getting that $80 on top of her share of the room fee. Net-net these girls are looking at the all or nothing number, not the incremental tip. Makes sense because the girls who don't do extras in clubs where it is common likely aren't selling the rooms or many LDs either.
• samiel

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  5 years ago

  Sorry, to answer your question, if I were a dancer, I'd start with the average in my area, which I've found to be about $300 for FS. From there I'd see how many customers I could get in a week on average. Let's say I can get 2-3 guys a week. That's $600-900/week. Now how much do I need to make in a month? Let's say I need $3000/month to be comfortable. At my current rate, I'll make $2400-$3600/month on top of lap dancing. So, I'm probably doing fine if I can get 2-3 guys a week at $300. Now if I can only get 1-2 guys a week, I might lower my price to get more volume. If I'm getting 4-5 guys a week, I might raise my price so I don't have to sleep with as many guys.
• rickdugan

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  5 years ago

  IMHO if you are going to fuck and suck for money, it should be to do more than cover your basic living needs. You could do that much at a clean club. I suspect that I've taken as many different girls OTC as anyone on this board and got to know a number of them to varying degrees. They almost universally had reasons for doing so that went beyond covering normal living expenses. Those reasons, some good and some bad, included: 1. Drugs. I try mightily to avoid these girls and dump them the second I realize it, but some hide it well in the beginning. 2. Higher expenses due to children. This includes not only higher housing and food costs, but things like Christmas gifts, back to school shopping, birthdays, etc. Some of my best first time OTC meets have occurred during the few days before Xmas and in school shopping season in August. 3. Savings. Some girls use OTC to beef up their bank rolls. One of my more recent partners rebuffed my advances for months, but then finally relented as she was preparing to take a month long trip around the southern and western parts of the country. Another that has become one of my newest BFFs also swore she would never "sell her ass" but had a change of heart since becoming pregnant and soon to be facing some serious down time. These are two examples, but I could recount dozens if I was motivated enough to try. 4. Flexibility. Some girls use it to supplement their dancing money so that they can work fewer hours. For a variety of reasons, some girls can only easily dance a couple of days per week, yet they still have bills to pay. Targeted OTC allows them to manage their schedules more effectively. These are just some examples. But if a girl is dancing a lot and still needs to fuck and suck just to cover $30k or less per year in living expenses, then IMHO she's doing it wrong.
• doctorevil

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  5 years ago

  "hypothetically, what would *you* charge if you were a female and did FS?" It's pretty close to impossible for me as a guy to answer this specific question, because I have a difficult time putting myself in the position of a female in that scenario. As a guy, if she turns me on, I would be willing to do it for free, so basically I would be a very cheap whore for the right customer. On the other hand, it would take a very large sum of money for me to provide service to a woman that repulsed me. And even if the money was right, there is the question of whether physically I would be able to perform for a woman that repulsed me. Even Viagra may not help, as it only enhances physical performance, not libido. Women obviously don't have this problem. A little bit of lube, if necessary, and they can do what is necessary. If I were a female, I can't imagine viewing it any differently, other than the physical performance part. But I guess there is a big middle ground of customers that are not hot but are not repulsive either. I can speak from experience on what I have found to be average prices in clubs as far north as New Jersey, as far south as south Florida, and as far west as Texas, and they are remarkably consistent. On average blow jobs are $100 to $150 and FS is $150 to $250 (most commonly right around $200). The exact price, of course, depends on the club, the girl, the day of week, time of day, phase of the moon, etc. The lower ends of the ranges are more common in dives to mid-range clubs, and the higher prices obviously more common in the high-end clubs. You will get outliers on both ends of course. On the low end, it’s usually some desperate skank that really doesn’t interest me, and on the high end, a price that says “I really don’t want to do that.” However, almost every girl will ask for at least $50 to $150 more than she is willing to accept. You have to negotiate a little, but usually not much, to get the real price. These prices are for money to the girl only, not counting house fees, if applicable, but does include situations where there is a per dance house fee or the girl gets a portion of the room fee. In those situations, I try to figure out how much of the room fee she gets or how much she has to pay the house per dance. Just ask and she will usually tell you. After estimating how much she gets from the room fee or will net from the dances, subtract that from the above, and the remainder is the “extra” tip that will satisfy most dancers. I’m pretty sure the dancers view it the same way, because sometime I can see them doing the math in their head while we are discussing it.
• Nidan111

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  5 years ago

  In my experience as a male customer, i have had 16 FS events in last 12 months. I have been to 18 Strips clubs in last 12 months The average to the girl is $200. $100 in a dive club, $300 in an upscale club. $200 in a mid level out of the way club.
• Fun_Loving_Fella

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  5 years ago

  If it were me I would probably stick to “I don’t really want to do this” prices for a long time, so probably like $400 for a covered BJ. Idk if I could even do FS with a PL, so I’d say 1k. I know they’re not realistic prices. That’s the point. If some day a real desperate PL did take me up on those prices I would then be able to reevaluate whether I wanted to do it frequently with real prices, but that first time would have to be a lot of cash.
• nicespice

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  5 years ago

  —>“One of the first things she said was, "I don't do extras," very defensively. Okay. But in my experience, most girls who work at open minded clubs do them, but everyone says they don't to each other. “ Yeah, during the time I worked at an extras club, it shocked me how often I heard girls angrily rant against that kind of thing. More so than the clean clubs I’ve been in 🤔 I haven’t been 100% innocent as a dancer, but I do have a certain minimum and that minimum changes depending on what club I’m at. And the times I’ve agreed, there was a reason other than just simply $$ received anyways. Your particular numbers are probably the most logical. If I could personally stomach doing extras at those numbers, then I wouldn’t want to be in that kind of weird denial mental state a lot of extras girls seem to be. I’d likely be in a place like Tootsies or Flight Club and enjoy my 4 figure shift clearing averages. And my blowjobs would be top notch quality, and I’d be bragging anywhere out of earshot of LE. Shame be damned 😈
• nicespice

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  5 years ago

  It’s a weird thing. Cause while many of us would probably slam cheap extras girls for doing things how they do, a lot of them would probably have the same attitude to the higher priced or even completely clean dancers for “wasting so much time with a customer”. But ah well, what would the industry be if we weren’t full of shit in some kind of way and looking down on others for (blatantly) behaving different than we do? 😅
• SirLapdancealot

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  5 years ago

  ^ @nicespice for one thing it would no longer be ironic. 😂
• nicespice

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  5 years ago

  “I like working in busy dance factory style clubs.” This is off topic, but have you considered Texas? Relatively low house fees, lots of foot traffic, $20 dances without club cuts. Just be prepared for a lot of customers to be aggressive.
• jackslash

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  5 years ago

  The pricing at the clubs I visit is $200 to $250 for BJ and $300 to $400 for FS. Some dancers ask much higher amounts, but they're just hoping to take advantage of uninformed customers.
• Nidan111

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  5 years ago

  You could dance in Salina KS where
• Nidan111

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  5 years ago

  You could dance in Salina KS where Lap Dances are $30 with zero cut to the club. VIP is $300 for 30 minutes with $70 to the club, behind locked doors and you can negotiate on top of base. Plus, each time you dance on stage, you do a tip walk after and patrons tip you $. With 30 customers, that is whatever you get on stage plus an extra $30 to $60; I tip $1 for each boob my hands get to touch during the tip walk.
• Muddy

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  5 years ago

  All I know is how can I look down on a girl for trying pay the rent? Sometimes you gotta pay the damn house fee I don’t blame them at all. Interesting question though, if I was a girl your saying? Men and women definitely don’t feel the same way about sex, if I was getting paid to fuck? I’d be making CRAZY MONEY! But I’m gonna try to put my self in a girls shoes...make that heels. If the guy was atleast clean, smelled good and was friendly/normal not a fucking weirdo why not make him happy? No homo BTW. Girls are just overly sensitive of their peers calling them a slut or whatever. To me I don’t know for sure because I don’t follow them around all day and night. (Only Nicespice in her treehouse right now) but I could definitely see a successful dancer having a small group of regulars that she trusts and take care of her. And that’s it. And you got to spend to be in that circle. I’ve been in that circle with a few girls but I couldn’t say for sure who else was in it. Difficult enough to get in however that I knew it wasn’t damn near everybody. Closer to can count on one hand.
• PaulDrake

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  5 years ago

  I would charge $1000. Basically be a clean dancer, but when a crazy high offer comes along then strongly consider it.
• Electronman

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  5 years ago

  You'd have to pay me lots of money to get me to walk around in 6 inch heels. After that, my extras price would vary depending on the attractiveness and cleanliness of the customer and my economic needs at any given time.
• wiffle shwaffle

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  5 years ago

  @nicespice I'm so glad you understood where I was coming from regarding girls always saying they don't do anything when they most likely do. I'm home for the weekend and was talking to people at my home club about PHC and Coliseum closing. There is *so much* slut shaming and whorephobia there. "All of the dirty whores went to Flight Club to suck some cheap dick." "They all went to get their STDs at Landing Strip." "The Penthouse sluts went to Criket to suck some $40 dick." It was *really* exhausting to be around and listen to. And it made me sad because it was mostly coming from two staff members! As for Texas, I honestly have never considered it. I heard they require you to be a resident of TX to work (unless that was just for the Superbowl a few years ago?).
• Lovelyeast

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  5 years ago

  I’m an extras girl. I’m just super picky. I like a certain type of man around me. I went a whole two years without doing anything dirty just because I wasn’t in the mood. You have to get me when I’m in the mood for it
• nicespice

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  5 years ago

  @waffle Texas is mostly travel friendly. I did read a stripperweb review where somebody complained about that with St James. I’ve never worked in Houston though. Dallas for sure allows outsiders. I know the main difference is out-of-state IDs pay $100 for a license to any club instead of $60. Austin is a super popular city for travel girls. San Antonio I’m pretty sure would be okay too for getting hired. But if you’re coming all the way in from Detroit especially, not worth the effort. (Tho I think it’s better than it used to be)
• SirLapdancealot

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  5 years ago

  ^ pssst, @nicespice, please put in the good word for Portland. Thanks! 👍🤗👍
• wiffle shwaffle

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  5 years ago

  @Bharlem81 If I were to go that route, I would definitely be picky af. I don't want to go down on an unshowered, sweaty, smelly dick. 🤮 If the guy doesn't show some respect and isn't clean, smells bad, or just overall bad presentation - hell no. Other factors fall into place, too. And girl to girl, I totally get the mood thing.
• wiffle shwaffle

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  5 years ago

  @nicespice once I get back to FL, I'll look into road tripping to TX.
• Jascoi

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  5 years ago

  in my experience... Full service prices depend on the visual and physical attraction and chemistry. As it is... aside from the one half hour VIP room fee in USA clubs i usually tip $100 for an eight to $200 for a girl that is a nine. most of the clubs that I attend in the USA the VIP room fee is about $150-$200 for a half hour and the girl gets at least 50% of that. and i have had some girls that give excellent sex for just the VIP fee and a relatively small tip. bottom line. YMMV. and prices definitely may vary too. guys. be clean and nice. and don’t be pushy.
• Huntsman

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  5 years ago

  Waffle, I think the numbers you mentioned are pretty much in the ball park, depending on location, as others have stated.
• georgmicrodong

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  5 years ago

  Before my recent slowdown in activities, I was giving one of the local girls $150 for blow jobs, $250 for the full meal deal. At her place, so no hotel charge. She was worth every penny. Hot as fuck, and rivals the girl I called My Favorite Cocksucker a few years back at the head game. Took her time, didn't try to rush, and didn't bitch when I took a long time. Let me push her down, and swallowed every drop. Outside the club, that's the most I've ever paid. Of course, that's here, in flyover country.
• herbtcat

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  5 years ago

  @waffle There's lots of replies on "pricing strategy" here, so I won't try to add. But just a reality check on this comment: "...a girl told the reviewer she sucks off about 10 guys in one night. And he paid $80..." Regardless of what you think of her morals or selectiveness, at that rate she's bringing home $800 per shift above and beyond her normal tipped-out daily pay. If she works 5 nights a week, she's taking an extra $16,000 a month beyond her normal pay. So if you are inclined to experiment, find your sweet spot in the sliding scale between higher prices/fewer guys and lower prices/more guys. If you want to make the same money as this example but only provide for say 2 guys a night, you'll have to charge $400 each guy AND find two guys willing to pay 5 times what the "slam pig" is charging. And, contrary to other's opinions above, IMHO, hotness only helps out on the floor to initiate negotiations. Once you're in a dark VIP booth and all he sees is the top of your head or your back, looks matter less. For me, getting extras from a provider requires only that she be subjectively hot enough for me to think she can get me off.
• gawker

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  5 years ago

  I know a dancer who in an afternoon shift took home $1000. Three Champagne rooms, 3 bbbj, 2 of them cum in mouth. I did a Champagne Room with a dancer who I’d been lusting after for 8 weeks. She assured me on the way upstairs that she didnt do extras. An hour later she’d given me a very good HJ and I’d enjoyed DATY. I asked her what I owed and she just stated the posted price ($300/hr). I had a regular dancer with whom an hour Champagne Room cost $190 to the house & $200 to the dancer. I’d tip $100 for a BBBJ & BBFS . This quickly turned into $500 per hour at a hotel. I had any complimentary rooms at Hilton and Holiday inn. She later told me that she had a sliding scale. She had a couple of “hot guys” that she’d have done free but they offered to pay so she’d take a $100. She had a customer, seriously overweight, and she referred to him as smelly Kevin. He was obsessed with her and she’d charge him $600 for a covered BJ. At one point she was meeting 3 regulars, all OTC. I paid $500/hr., the dentist paid $600, and the contractor paid $1000. I paid for out hotel, the other two had her get the room and usually paid some of the cost. These prices are for a dancer who knew how to please. She let me take nude photos, a few video tapes etc. she told me that the contractor was quite heavy and unattractive. He’d never take his tee shirt off, wanted porn on TV, had some trouble getting it up and she was patient and when he fucked her he stayed on his back and she’d “ do all the work”. Like anything else, the value of anything is determined by what anyone will pay for it.
• Papi_Chulo

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  5 years ago

  As w/ other things in a capitalist economy, there is choice and variety in terms of services and goods at different price-points - w.r.t. strip-clubs and extras-costs, location and type of club are variables - as well as competition (e.g. a club where most dancers do extras vs a club where it's not as common, etc). As a ballpark-figure, for FS I'd say $100 to $200 for a dive w/ $150 kinda being the median - $150 - $300 for a mid-tier club w/ $200 being the median - and maybe $300 to $500+ for an upscale club where maybe $400 is the median - these are just ballpark figures and of course can vary w/ location and club. w.r.t. BJs - who knows - for me a $100 tip for a bareback BJ feels adequate - maybe a $50 tip in a low-end club with an avg looking girl and maybe $150 at most in an upscale club w/ a good-looking dancer - that's just what's worth it to me for only a BJ given that finding a dancer that does a good-one IME is more of the exception than the norm and why I am not willing to pay top-dollar. On the surface, it seems to me that often times the dancers comfortable with doing extras as part of their dancing-job, are not necessarily looking for absolutely top-dollar and may prefer/be-satisfied w/ going-rate and volume and closing out more sales vs holding out for top-offers only - seems most dancers not comfortable with extras feel they gotta get paid overwhelmingly well for it to be worth it to them - does not apply universally of course but kinda a coarse observation.
• Call.Me.Ishmael

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  5 years ago

  $1 million. I'd only need one taker...
• steeldog65

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  5 years ago

  I'm not sure, but perhaps one thing to do would be to go to [view link] and look at the prices there the escorts are offering for full service. Add that plus whatever the club would charge and may be a 50 to $75 up charge on top of that because the guys turned on and you are there and he is there and you're more likely to get his cash from him that way and you're in the ballpark.
• gSteph

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  5 years ago

  More than average Doing fewer than average Cause I'd be better than average I think Funny question
• Papi_Chulo

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  5 years ago

  "What would you charge?" Putting myself in a dancer's shoes I guess I would also want top-dollar to do something I didn't wanna do or that I wouldn't do/like-doing otherwise
• Musterd21

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  5 years ago

  If I were a girl doing FS, I would say $1000. But then if I was a girl I am sure I would be good at it. lol
• Book Guy

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  5 years ago

  Necessary variables: club, city, day of week, time of day, number of girls, competition of girls, likelihood of being disapproved by club, by law enforcement, likelihood of getting caught by club, by law enforcement, severity of likely punishment by club, by law enforcement, type(s) of customers, customer expectations, customer desires, customer ability to pay, customer opportunities elsewhere (Asian pull-and-tug joints nearby? other strip clubs that are dirtier? etc.), number of tourists in town, number of tourists not in town, ratio or tourists to locals among clientele, ratio of tourists to locals among dancers, etc. etc. etc. There's no "right" way to make the pricing decision. The free market does its thang and we are all subjet to it, for better or for worse. I think I'd like blowjobs to be in the $25 range. Or, that's what I think at first. But then I think of the girls I've gotten a $25 blow from, and I realize that if the price is that low then the girls are selected by the market dynamics to be rather skanky and disgusting and suddenly I'd rather be getting a $50 blowjob rather than a $25 blowjob. Where I live, and, throughout most of the USA, the days of the $50 blowjob are essentially well over anyway, so my vacillation between $25 and $50 is a mere thought experiment. IMO a decent rate for full-service in any venue in the USA should be roughly $200, maybe $300 depending on many of the factors listed above. That price I base not as much on customer cost, as on dancer cost. The value-added work that is necessary is worth just about that much, I think. She has to give up a portion of her time, risk a certain amount of disapproval or punishment from law enforcement etc., put herself in some degree of danger from not knowing the business partner, etc.. But beyond that amount, any price higher is simply the girl trying to out-price her competitors for the sake of competing. She doesn't want much business, if she's rather do one hour with full service at $1000 every two or three weeks, as opposed to one or two hours a day with full service at $300 each on whichever days she wishes to work. The GPS she's displaying by over-pricing herself, in fact, doubly motivates me to avoid her.