Dancers over counting songs, DJ cuttings song short or making 3 songs sound like 1 song. You name it’s these strip clubs are always trying to get over on us. They are trying get their’s and we are trying to get ours. It’s straight up war. So what are we doing to fight back. Me, I pulled off a clever move recently and wanted to share. I go in the club find a dancer I wanted to get dances from. She had a reputation as an over counter as I was keenly aware. I went and paid the DJ $60 to play “Give me just a little more time” by Chairmen of the Board https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gzIAiyxS-n… After the first song. When it came on, I got up and danced and sang the song the dancer, her name was Blueberries. She was so impressed she gave me a free 30 seconds of lapdance time. Now that is a value.
What are some of the stunts you guys are pulling off to make your money go farther back there?
Just as a new song starts, ask to go get dances but when you are back there make sure she doesn't start right away and waits for a new song to start. Usually during the wait, if she's a cool stripper, she'll sit on your lap and tease you without doing any actual stripping or dancing. Essentially this is "free" time.
When doing multiple dances, keep an accurate count and even try to remember the songs. Don't say anything about the count. Keep it to yourself. Then as you are ready to end the dances, ask her how many it was. If she over counts, correct her and tell her the proper amount. If she under counts, just smile and pay her for less than the total.
This one kinda relies on her poor memory. It's kinda underhanded, but hey we all lose count, right? 😉
If the club has 'bumper' short songs that are just for the transition between stage sets, the cool strippers will start during the bumper song but not count it.
^ Also again if there are bumper songs, try to start your dances so that there will be a bumper song in between them. And make sure she doesn't count it!
SLD's tip was the only one I usually do. If there's a dancer you know you want dances from, ask her about 20 seconds after a new song starts. If she's cool, she'll offer to wait until the next song to start on her own without you saying. If she's REALLY cool she'll even undo her top and grind you even though the paid portion hasn't started yet. If she tries to start in the middle of the song then that's a red flag already, not a good start.
In most clubs here, the girls have VERY little latitude. There's a dance counter who counts songs; if she gives me more than an extra minute, she gets charged. The one bit of wiggle room is, as TFP described: ask her to go to the room 30s after a song starts. The good girls will sit on your lap and allow some groping the rest of the song, and then start on the next song... they can do this without getting charged an extra song.
The hustlers will start dancing as soon as you get to the room, and then try to judge "well, I started 60s into the first song, so I'll end 60s into the next", which is your sign to fire them after a single dance
In Pensacola where the starting price is $45 per song. I ask for discounts for multiple songs. I have never had the experience here of a dancer trying to cheat me on songs. I guess because each one is so expensive.
I begin with a front room make out session - or FRMOS as I call it.
Then I insert two fingers in her keester. This serves two purposes - 1. I know if she's running a fever, 2. I learn if she's a screamer (and if she needs to destroy a shitter).
I don't buy dances - and I don't use strip clubs for ejaculatory services -
I then ask the girl if she's attracted to bikers. Most dancing whores love bikers - as they love bad boys. Theres no harm in leading them on - and not telling them that I rode to the club on a moped.
I then pull it out - and slyly ask the dancer if she smells it. If she says no - I'm in luck - as it is a rag covered in chloroform.
Once she's out - its a quick trip around the block to my mom's house - and that's where the action goes on all night long - or TLN for the hottie who may or may not be DTF...
Last time I was at Follies, there was a 20 minute wait on one of the upper VIP rooms so I had a very sexy Latina casually grinding on my lap and chatting the whole time. Naked.
^ there are clubs where the dancers gotta give the house a cut of each dance thus there is a staff person keeping-track/counting the dances each dancer gives
"well, I started 60s into the first song, so I'll end 60s into the next"
Agree that's usually a sign to get her off my lap, but sometimes the pros who just need to keep things moving can do that dancer math in their head pretty well. If I'm in a hurry sometimes I'll go for it and have her finish the last song if she's doing a good job.
@san_jose_creep sorry that you haven't gone to a strip club this century and you haven't been with a woman other than an AMP whore since your divorce to even know WTF you are even saying.
Well, usually, treating a girl in a completely civilian manner, they can be gotten to quite easily. If you have NEVER done this, maybe it does then take some learning.
SirLDAlot that’s true. There are escorts who provide a service intended to be a GFE. However, it could make some guys believe they actually want a relationship. Like a guy from San Jose...
True. It most likely fueled his ego when he was trolling AMP’s and thinking the girls actually wanted a relationship with him. That explains a lot regarding his bizarre inflated ego.
@Cashman all san_jose_creep's ways with stripper and AMP whores are a system of denial that he's paying them for GFE because his ego is huge. If he acts civilian with them, they want to be his real GF rather than give him GFE. If they kiss him, it's because they like him as a GF rather than it's part of GFE. These are simply forms of paid GFE that he doesn't want to admit. He even has denial as he pays them. It's not payment for the GFE. It's payment out of respect and care for her time as a real GF rather than a GFE service. His ego doesn't allow him to admit he's resorting to GFE with whores because no woman, civilian or otherwise, wants anything to do with his creepy ass in real life.
Furthermore, it's so bad (his ego and his denial) with him that he has to believe that he's figured it all out over TUSCLers that just want to go and get lapdances. He doesn't even want to believe that others actually just want to have fun with strippers and get lapdances. Even that hurts his ego because it takes him back to his personal frustration of strippers that just wanted to do that only and NOT give him GFE.
He's overly obsessed with getting GFE and pretending it's real.
@SirLapdancealot Yeah, I think you nailed it. The whole womanizer vs. PL, mistress vs. stripper, and make out session because they really, really like me vs. I'm giving them cash, is delusion vs. reality.
What I find quite sad is that level of delusion and vulnerability is going to leave him open to being burned by a truly mercenary stripper, burned badly. It is almost a variation of White Knight Syndrome.
@JustinTolook But to your last paragraph, he has developed the ultimate defense: to never actually go to a strip club in reality. By never actually going, his defense mechanism is foolproof, ironically. By not going he can stay on TUSCL and blather on and on about all his delusions in a self contained and "foolproof" fantasy and it will always be "true". To him.
Not really much one can do - in most clubs one is at the mercy of the DJ and these days in most clubs one is lucky to get a 3.5 minute dance/song - many clubs avg around 3-minutes and there are clubs that don't even consistently give you the 3-minutes and they play the songs at different lengths and you will get some under 3-minutes.
There are some clubs where one puts $$$ into a machine which has a counter so one knows exactly what they are getting and one gets the same amount of time per dance every time vs being at the mercy of the DJ - I've never been in a club like this but on the surface seems it's a better option than what one gets on most clubs these days.
@SLD this updated analysis of SJG seems even more on point than before.
@Justintolook the thing that protects SJG from being burned by a merciless stripper is that he isn't able to go to any clubs, again like SLD said. I'm not sure if that's because he's locked up somewhere, dead broke, or both. But the fact that he can't go saves him from being taken by a ROB.
Scary thing is, he seems like the type to stalk a dancer or worse after she plays him for a fool tricking him into thinking she wants to deal with him outside of the club. I think it's better for everyone that he just keeps rambling on about hypothetical encounters with strippers here on this site. Rather than try the shit he talks about here in real life.
TFP its you guys who are the idiots. Strip clubs are fine tuned well oiled machines for separating marks from their money. You fall for it.
Now the thing is, the women are real. They are what they appear to be. No deceptions are being employed. Understanding this is the key to becoming a womanizer. But you guys are decades away from being ready for that.
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san_jose_guy - Commonly referred to as SJG this forum member may have some sort of mental illness and is usually mocked or ignored. SJG has a long history of posting incendiary comments including being pro-rape. His comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate.
I didn't read all of the comments so if I'm repeating please forgive me. If you are worried about over counting, download shazam or some other music recognition app on your phone. Set it to auto recognize songs at the start of your lappers and let the dancer know you are doing it as well. That way they can't over count.
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This one kinda relies on her poor memory. It's kinda underhanded, but hey we all lose count, right? 😉
The hustlers will start dancing as soon as you get to the room, and then try to judge "well, I started 60s into the first song, so I'll end 60s into the next", which is your sign to fire them after a single dance
Then I insert two fingers in her keester. This serves two purposes - 1. I know if she's running a fever, 2. I learn if she's a screamer (and if she needs to destroy a shitter).
I don't buy dances - and I don't use strip clubs for ejaculatory services -
I then ask the girl if she's attracted to bikers. Most dancing whores love bikers - as they love bad boys. Theres no harm in leading them on - and not telling them that I rode to the club on a moped.
I then pull it out - and slyly ask the dancer if she smells it. If she says no - I'm in luck - as it is a rag covered in chloroform.
Once she's out - its a quick trip around the block to my mom's house - and that's where the action goes on all night long - or TLN for the hottie who may or may not be DTF...
I generally do multiple dances 8 or more anyway with CF and that's an excellent idea. Thanks Nicespice
Might be a horrible approach if she's never danced for you. We've all had dances where we've wanted to crawl out of our skin to get away.
Wear a suit and tell them you’re a chemical engineer. Get’s the sexy female hairless apes all hot and bothered because they think you’ll tip well.
But later in the evening you stiff ‘em...in more ways than one! Amiright or amiright?
ROAR!!!
SJG
Front room makeout session.
Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
Then take her home with you to continue.
SJG
Agree that's usually a sign to get her off my lap, but sometimes the pros who just need to keep things moving can do that dancer math in their head pretty well. If I'm in a hurry sometimes I'll go for it and have her finish the last song if she's doing a good job.
SJG
Surprising how many people have such a hard time seeing the obvious.
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And the Bay Area is full of stripper escorts. Chock full.
Furthermore, it's so bad (his ego and his denial) with him that he has to believe that he's figured it all out over TUSCLers that just want to go and get lapdances. He doesn't even want to believe that others actually just want to have fun with strippers and get lapdances. Even that hurts his ego because it takes him back to his personal frustration of strippers that just wanted to do that only and NOT give him GFE.
He's overly obsessed with getting GFE and pretending it's real.
What I find quite sad is that level of delusion and vulnerability is going to leave him open to being burned by a truly mercenary stripper, burned badly. It is almost a variation of White Knight Syndrome.
But still, yes, it's quite sad.
There are some clubs where one puts $$$ into a machine which has a counter so one knows exactly what they are getting and one gets the same amount of time per dance every time vs being at the mercy of the DJ - I've never been in a club like this but on the surface seems it's a better option than what one gets on most clubs these days.
SJG
@Justintolook the thing that protects SJG from being burned by a merciless stripper is that he isn't able to go to any clubs, again like SLD said. I'm not sure if that's because he's locked up somewhere, dead broke, or both. But the fact that he can't go saves him from being taken by a ROB.
Scary thing is, he seems like the type to stalk a dancer or worse after she plays him for a fool tricking him into thinking she wants to deal with him outside of the club. I think it's better for everyone that he just keeps rambling on about hypothetical encounters with strippers here on this site. Rather than try the shit he talks about here in real life.
Now the thing is, the women are real. They are what they appear to be. No deceptions are being employed. Understanding this is the key to becoming a womanizer. But you guys are decades away from being ready for that.
SJG
san_jose_guy - Commonly referred to as SJG this forum member may have some sort of mental illness and is usually mocked or ignored. SJG has a long history of posting incendiary comments including being pro-rape. His comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate.