Why Pay for Sex When You Can Get It for Free?

“Desplooginate”, now that made me chuckle.

I don’t want to get emotionally involved with women right now. That might change in the future but the ex-cunt left me wanting to be free of that kind of thing for now.

So I pay them. Since finding out strip clubs are more than show recently, I’ve almost stopped seeing hookers (at least the kind that advertise) and have my fun in clubs. It’s cheaper than keeping a woman happy just to have sex with her.

There was some famous rock star that once said, " I don't pay them for the sex, I pay them to leave. "

As a married man, I don't really want an "affair". I just want non-committable sex with a pretty girl. And I'm willing to pay for it. Would I rather get it for free? Sure. But I don't want the headaches of doing the dating scene.

^^^ I agree. Paying to play with hookers and strippers is like renting a Lamborghini.

After an exhilarating ride you’re finished you just pay your bill and walk away.

You don’t worry about maintenance costs, mileage creep or “hair pollution” in the back seat ( tuscl.net ).

^^^Icey. ??? Why do you care???

You don’t read very well do you, junior?

You could add in that you are paying so you can do things with the woman you might not normally be able to do.

I don't see a big deal in paying for something you want. Is it wrong to go out to a nice restaurant when you or your partner aren't very good cooks? Is it wrong to see a professional (Doctor, mechanic, etc.) to do jobs you cannot do yourself.

Sometimes you don't want the hassle of getting all of the raw materials and putting something together yourself.....so you hire a pro to do it for you.

I can't be bothered to read all of that, but I'll just say that there is no such thing as free sex.

What an asinine post by icey.....every man regardless of attractiveness or status "pays" for sex.

Payment can take many forms - time and effort spent courting, gifts, dates, promises of commitment/fidelity, emotional or financial support, or cold hard cash.

"Free sex" to me is being able to consistently walk up to any girl I want and have no strings attached sex with her that same day.

Almost no guy that isnt a perfect 10 male model celebrity can pull that off with any sort of reliable consistency.

Men who huff and puff about how they are "too good" to pay for sex are either

A. Jealous broke losers who wish they could afford the luxury of no strings attached sex with a beautiful woman instead of jumping through a 100 hoops for their "free" sex from their mediocre girlfriend.

Or

B. Wannabe PUA/cassanova beta male types who live for constant validation from women.

Me personally, Im an attractive guy who had had both "free" sex and paid sex. The "free" sex always costed me more....always.

^^^most guys, like myself, who pay couldnt care less about whether or not its a business transaction or whether we are "doing it wrong" or "pathetic"

We arent driven by this all consuming need for female validation and approval like you are.

Some of the freakiest and sexually enthusiastic women ive been with have been girls i paid...conversely ive had some pretty bad "free" sex.

Im way past your high school mentality worrying about whether handing over green slips of paper for sex is "uncool" to people i couldnt give 2 fks about

Icey one day you will figure out that no one thinks you havea fucking clue about life and that everything you say here is total bullshit and contradictory. You think I want advice from someone who talks about hitting bitches? Fuck off loser.

LOL for someone that tells PLs that pay for sex they are doing it rong, IceyDodo talks about using money to get GFE from stripper whores. Here's some quotes on TUSCL from IceyDodo, aka the hypocritical trick bitch...

"I don't mind spending money in the club."

"If I fuck a stripper...... "

"I offer to pay the house fee, tip out and fine for leaving early) and smoke some weed."

"I don't mind doing normal things like giving her weed, alcohol if she can't buy it, or some money to get her eyebrows or nails done... a bill here and there..."

"Yeah, Im fine with the sugar daddy aspect. Im not naive to think she'd be with me if I were broke."

"Don't care where I met her and have no problem spending the money, its not an issue."

"And I agree, its really weird that she would cut off the $$$. You'd think she'd want to push it. And at this stage while I know itll hurt in the long run, Id be down with it. She knows I'll spend it on her.It was pretty much like we were living in a hip hop video...materialistically, it was there for her. Designer shoes, bags, clothes, the best weed, expensive restaurants. She grew up poor and likes fast money..."

"Im hoping if nothing else, she misses the money. She won't find this elsewhere...it was a lot. A few hundred a day, some days over a thousand."

"... I'd even be fine with it just being about money if she just stays and acts normal."

For me it's about instant gratification - I have sexual needs but do not want to be in a relationship and as was posted in the OP it's not fair to either party if my motivation is just sexual.

So P4P for me is instant gratification w/ NSA on either side - I get what I want/need and she gets what she want$/need$.

And as the saying goes "there's no such thing as a free lunch".

If a guy that is big and strong can use his assets to make a living (boxer, football player, bodyguard, etc), why can't a woman similarly use her body to make a living.

It's basic supply & demand economics - men provide the demand and there are women willing to provide the supply - like many other business opportunities.

Fact is males and females are wired differently w.r.t. sex and this is evident in pretty-much all species.

^^^agree Papi...there a study out there that observed male monkeys giving the females their food in exchange for sex

Women enjoy sex...but they are no where near as indiscriminate as men are in who they would fk nor are they willing to do all the stupid/dangerous/risky things men would do to get laid.

Women sure as hell dont pay for sex - there are no where near as many male strip clubs or straight male escorts....

If women were truly wired like men were....the world would be one giant gay bath house and we would still be living in mud huts lol

Money is just one expression of male provisoning ability which females find attractive...ie can this man effectively provide for my offspring...men who are able to provision get to mate.

Nothing unnatural here.....

"You're going to have to spend money. "

• IceyDodo, June 30, 2018

Explain why celebrities, athletes, CEOs pay hookers then. Are they loser tricks? These men presumably could have "free" sex with willing civilian women...yet they still choose to pay.

Justin Bieber, back in his heyday, was caught leaving a well known brothel in brazil. This man had women literally offering themselves on a silver platter. Was he a loser trick?

In my case....if hookers were turned off by the act of me giving them money to fk...why are they seemingly enjoying themselves just as much as i am....i can feel how wet and turned on they are...they are kissing me and giving me sloppy bjs...so what gives here??

Responding to a loser like faggy loco is a big waste of time, contrary to his lonely opinion most folks just don't see things that way, you go on being a deluded little bitch thinking that you and your opinions are all that, most here know better.

25, chill out, Mamisan is right there.

SJG

Man this is ridiculous. Why do you folks even bother talking to Icey? She's never gonna consider any of your points, just gonna keep reciting the same shit over and over.

What is it to you icey.....prostitution, tricking, paying for sex...whatever you want to call it....its never going away. Its been around since the beginning of mankind and it will persist as long as man exists..... no matter how much ugly man-hating women, religious nutjobs, and white knights/simps try to shame and criminalize it.

Actually icee you sound just like Donald J. Trump, saying many people agree, in reality it’s only one and he doesn’t believe he needs meds so there’s that as well

===> "if we wanna go by biology, then there are males in every species who don't get to mate. Using money to change that is going against nature lulz"

The more Icey posts, the more sense that he/she makes, lol. Some guys do indeed use strippers to fill a void that they can't fill with civilian women. It's also true that humans are as subject to the Law of Natural Selection as any species - not every man is going to reproduce.

But I think it's going a little far to say that p4p is going against nature, lmao. After all, it's not like these girls are any more eager than civilian women to have babies with these types, they just want to get paid for a momentary physical transaction.

Ok, that's as much fun as i want to have with troll posts. Please continue...

But Icey, I will just add that there are all sorts of reasons why guys might choose to pay for it. For me, fucking civilian women comes with too many complications and your notion that true NSA sex exists is not consistent with my own experiences. All it takes is one butt hurt civilian girl who convinces herself that she was used to ruin a family man's life.

As the old expression goes, I don't pay for the sex, I pay her to leave when it's done.

“As the old expression goes, I don't pay for the sex, I pay her to leave when it's done.“

I generally insist on a little more.

I’d like them to do the dishes, take out trash, and go out to fetch me a pizza before they walk home.

Icey, being a modern day child, pants like a dog seeking approval of others. He will never understand that people from my genberartion simply don't give a flying fuck what others think about our chosen lifestyle.

"You're going to have to spend money. "

• IceyDodo, June 30, 2018

Imagine how sad you would have to be to give a fuck what a stripper or hooker thinks of you.

Or an Internet NPC for that matter

I know. It's sad that IceyDodo seeks so much validation from stripper whores and through demeaning PLs.

And LMFAO she pays stripper whores just like PL "tricks" if not more.

A friend of mine is on ski patrol at Okemo mountain. I can ski there for free. I pay to ski at Killington.

We made it great, but the caveat was you had to work hard to succeed. That's why your generation failed. Losers. Lazy. Impotent.

Skibum, no one has failed except you. And I will write that on the 55 gal steel trash drum we cram you into for burial.

SJG

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I will outlive yout SJG and your attempts to belittle me are even more pathetic than your politics. You strike me as possibly the wimpiset person on earth. Have you ever held a job? Ever not been a leech? People are working harder than ever? Lmao

The movements of our politics have it so most people are working harder and harder for less and less. This was how Bill Clinton explained it in 1992. Even more true today.

And skibum I will be there to see your remains interned.

The only leech is you and your mouth.

SJG

I'm a reflection of the attitude of the those with whom I interact. Sjg is a non working loser who hopes people die. I treat the douche accordingly. You're a hypocritical fraud and as such I treat you accordingly.