Help Me ! I think I am addicted to Sugar !

Good man. I'm thinking about giving SA another shot. I wasn't successful the first time. Though I suspect that was entirely my fault.

Did you discuss intimacy before you met, or is it just assumed? I see a lot of girls with “platonic only”

If a girl Favorited me, I would then look at her profile. If it said platonic, I wouldn't respond. I think there are some girls on there that think guys will just send them money because they are cute.

You can kind of tell from the interaction after you start the messaging. In most of my cases, the girl told me what they were looking for.

^ I’d caution you against saying too much on site try to move it to texting and be circumspect

^ Correct. Once, I got the commitment for the date, I would then get the girls phone number.

I think girls who post "platonic only" have more optimism than good sense.

I have also heard that any "transactional" or pay-per-visit talk using SA communication channels is a great way to get banned quickly.

Personally, I think the ratio of scams and flakes is too high there for my tolerance level. That’s not to say that others would feel the same way by trying sugar but I thought it was more trouble than it was worth. I can see that it may be more useful during travel situations as you described.

I've been saying this for years but I thought discussing the sugaring scene here is taboo. My approach is different though. I'm looking for college girls that I can trust at my house for something long-term.

You can get away with PPM talk as long you don't mention sex in any way.

What did they look like, on the stripper 1-10 scale?

Going online v. going to a strip club: It's like asking whether you should buy something on Amazon v. driving to the store. There are vastly more choices on Amazon but you might be disappointed when the product arrives. There's a lot of overlap between stripper OTC and SA, but the top end of SA has some real gems.

I've never been under the impression that sugaring talk here is a no-no. There have been plenty of past threads on the topic.

But perhaps I missed something via founder.

Good question doctor. They all post the most flattering photos they can get of themselves. So each time one of them would show up, I was a little anxious. Of the 5, two were about 10-15 lbs heavier than their photos lead you to believe. But they were both young, so they were still cute and tight. In the photos, each one looks like a 8 or 9. In reality, they were 7-8's.

I had no luck with SA. I think it was because I posted my real age and real photos. If I try again I'll pull a picture of George Clooney off the internet.

Taking them to a nice restaurant on a first meet just seems foolish to me. Some girls will stuff their faces and then when you try to get them to go to a hotel, they come up with excuses or hit you with an insane allowance that they know you will not comply with. They end up getting a free dinner and brag to their followers on Instagram that they had lobster tail at the fanciest restaurant in the city. Many guys will do a meet at a coffee shop or bar, so if the SB all of a sudden thinks she will be handed cash for nothing, the cost ends up be $10 instead of $100+ at a fancy restaurant.

Also, most of the better quality SB's want something more than a one night stand. If they know you are going to be in their city for only a couple days, banging them once for a couple hundred bucks and taking off, they will not bother with you. Many want a steady flow of income for college, rent, etc. The "SB's" who are okay with being fucked once and ditched are usually the girls who are closer to full time prostitutes than college student.

Perhaps some areas are more fertile for finding good and willing SBs.

Vegas and Miami are places where young hot chicks like to visit, or relocate, to party.

"... most of the better quality SB's want something more than a one night stand. "

Yes, of course. And insisting on at least one unpaid, platonic, date weeds out 99% of the transplants from Backpage. If you're sleeping with five girls per week on the first date, you're far more likely to be sampling from the Backpage population. Not being judgmental; if that's what you want, then fine.

12 favorites a day is really good warrior you must be handsome as fuck......that or your income is crazy (or at least listed as such)

^ I’ve met Warrior, I’d say he’s almost as handsome as I am, but he doesn’t have my money 😁

Oh Ran-dumb-member, you know you are definitely being judgemental.

I "may" be insinuating that I want a first date to see if I want a long term arrangement. That probably has something to do with my success. And these have all been either college girls or girls that have a jobs that don't quite give them the lifestyle they want. And I probably will keep seeing a couple of them.

To Sinclair's point above, I have not figured out that you don't have to take them to a really nice place on that first date. I like to go to nice places with some arm candy, so those places are for me as much as them. But one of the girls even suggested we just get room service at the hotel. She was the 19 year old college girl. She also told me what wine to have in the room. She didn't have a fake ID.

^ I have NOW figured out .

^Now why would you be giving him money?

(I’m sorry, I couldn’t resist)

Oddly enough, upon first meeting Muddy my first thought was “I wonder if this guy is related to Warrior”

Damn you warrior for ninja-ing my comment. ‘Twas supposed to be under 25’s

^ LOL

Well, I did try to get 25 drunk that one night. But he did't give it to me.

You homo;))

Muddy, My photo is a selfie with the phone covering my face. It shows off my bald head and that's about it. On the income and net worth, I was honest. i didn't want to inflate it so that girls would be asking for $1000 a night. But I do think if you put zero, then the girl is going to ignore you.

Honestly not being judgmental @Warrior. With experience you'll probably turn off the feature that makes your profile searchable. You're most likely getting the mail-order-bride hopefuls from the Phillipines and the Backpage crowd post FOSTA/SESTA.

Oh, I admitted above that part of the 12 Favorites I'm getting are those very things. It doesn't take much effort to just delete them.

I"m having fun now. But in all honesty, if I can find 4-5 college girls to have fun with from time to time, then I probably will stop. I bot 3-months with a paid up credit card. I probably will not renew if that works out.

I still got to try sa. where I hang out both in Arizona and here away from LA... it’s a wasteland of attractive girls. ( unless they’re jailbait.)

@Warriors15

Good Times, Good Times.

You Wrote: “In the 3 weeks I have been a member, I have now fucked 5 different girls ranging in ages 19-27

Pics or it didn’t happen!! 😊

You also wrote: “In the photos, each one looks like a 8 or 9. In reality, they were 7-8's.”

Where would they “look” like that?

It is is important to know what part of the country; (THE WEST COAST, EAST COAST, MIDWEST, AND SOUTH)

Keep in mind that within those regions, each state also has it’s own hotness scale.

However beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Keep having fun, and let us know more details and post some pics...

CJ, I hope you aren't serious about posting the pics. That just would not be cool.

The photos the girls have in the profiles make them look awesome. All the girls I have ended up with so far have been very cute, but a few of them weren't quite as gorgeous as their profile photos looked.

All this activity has been in Florida, either Tampa or Ft Lauderdale. Two Latinas, three white girls. I think Papi is probably right above though. I think the inventory of SA girls differs greatly with what city you are in.

@Warrior15

(A)Is the $200 - $400 for her to spend the whole night with your OR Just for her to spend an hour with you?

(B)So assuming you spend let say $200 for dinner which sounds about right for a dinner for two with a glass of wine right here in Florida At the lowest spectrum you’re spending at least a minimum of $400 for the whole date OR a maximum of $600 on the highest spectrum...

To me that sounds like a lot of money to spend on a date:

Putting everything in comparison you can probably get a lot more for your money at a latina Massage Parlours littered all over Florida OR better still at a Strip club were extras are a given

i.e. At a Latina Massage Parlour an hour = $60 paid to the establishment & then you’re allowed to choose whichever girl you want & negotiate both the price & activity you want...

I usually offer them anywhere from $100 - $140 for an hour of fun...

My aim is always never to go above $200/visit...

And nothing like massages actually goes on in these Latina Massage Parlours, only extras more like a whore house...

And the girls are hot just like the Cuban Hotties you normally run into at Diamond Dolls Pompano Beach...

@Warrior

If the $200 -$400 is for the Sugar Baby to spend the whole night with you then it’s a great deal...

If the $200 - $400 is just for the Sugar Baby to spend an hour with you then that sure more like a bad deal to me...

Bragging?

I don't call telling people that prostitutes will have sex with you if you pay them pay bragging.

Warrior. I have almost the exact results you have had with seeking. Com

Have typically met the sugar babes for cocktails or a casual bite at a decent restaurant to guage compatibility.

Over the past few months I Have connected with 6 hot coeds ranging from 19 - -25 yrs old. Also one 29 year old traveling nurse who was crazy AF and a hell of a good time. $300 each event. Two spent the nite and we had another run at it

Have also had multiple visits with two of them and also a couple threesomes

I’m not super handsome super hung or super rich. Just a guy with a good paying job with disposable income and a little bit of texting game.

Apparently many of the guys on the site are total douche bags and start asking for nudes or sex right out of the gate. Glad they are on the site. Makes me look like a prize.

I’ve enjoyed sugaring / OTC for about a year now and lately only go into the club if I want a cheap random blow job / fuck from some strange babe.

Life is good for this 50 somethingI old fart

I had great luck on it. Found my fav lady friend of all time, she never asked for anything. We’d go out, hit the casino, dinner, shows and at the end of our time, usually overnight which included 4-5x of hooking up I’d slip her a few hundred in her purse. She just didn’t want to be around losers. Anyway, keep having fun @ Warrior. Good thing about the site is SC pros can see through the bs. Like Warrior said, just don’t be a dick, don’t ask for nudes or send dick pics, have some game, and it’s ez.

I'm not that familiar with Back Page so I can't really comment on how SA is like Back Page. But Icey would know since his mom got all of her customers on Back Page.

Good, informative thread, Warrior. I sometimes think about taking the plunge, especially when so many make it sound so easy for a 50-something year-old to be banging college-aged babes. But the whole process just sounds too complicated to me, signing up for $$$ with no guarantee of success and then having to sort out the BS of scammers just wanting money for nothing or the deceptive ones who don't look nearly as good as their pics or the bitches with golden pussy syndrome asking for outrageous donations. I applaud you and others who've had success, and hope it continues for you. Maybe I'll eventually take the dip (I feel like my clock is ticking), but for now, I prefer the anonymous, NSA encounters in TJ bars and erotic massage establishments in GTA.

Warrior is fucking everyone

I was on one of those type of sites a few years ago. I think it was Seeking Arrangements but I’m not 100% certain.

I had lots of women contact me even though I used the same ridiculous name on that site as I do on this one.

I never met any of the women who contacted me via that site. From their profiles alone, it seemed to me that all the women on that site stank to high heaven.

I deleted my profile within 2-3 weeks of creating it.

I'm meeting all young college girls. But I am filtering thru quite a few to get to those college girls. There is some "stank" on there. But they are easy to delete and move on.

A few more comments:

Agree with @Flag that bragging about paying for sex is idiotic in this context or with stripper OTC for that matter. I'm sometimes guilty of bragging, myself. However, the top SBs get hundreds of responses and they pick and choose who they want to see. So while the sugaring scene qualifies as a benign form of prostitution, it's far different than calling an escort. Also I've read enough posts over the years on the sugaring forum to know that many sugar relationships transition to unpaid and the real thing over time. In that case, the age difference usually isn't that large.

@Burlington made a similar post right after SESTA/FOSTA and bragged about sleeping with eight SA girls in a month. He was perplexed about why these girls were calling back to see him again. @Burlingon's a bright guy and he was obviously leading these girls on with idea that he was looking for an arrangement and not pump-and-dump sex. If that's what you want and you can get away with it, then fine. I can assure you that that most of the girls are not looking for pump-and-dump sex and they complain bitterly about the guys who do that. I find it hard to believe that attractive college girls with agree to sleep with some middle-aged guy who's traveling into town for a quick romp and for a few hundred dollars. Unless they're led to believe it's going to something more. Or unless they're really escorts.

Question for Warrior is someone else familiar with SA: Can you use an alias when meeting these gals (even if they have your cell number) and go through the process without them knowing your real identity? I ask because I’d worry about a vindictive woman trying to blackmail me or out me on social media as a monger or informing my company or showing up at my house if I were married. Sounds extreme but there’s a lot of weirdos out there these days, as TUSCL goes to prove.

I don't see why not. I don't have my real name on my profile. You could always use a Google number for your cell number or use a burner phone. And if I told the girls my name was something else, I don't think they would have any idea I wasn't telling them the truth.

Yes of course you can remain anonymous.

Blackmail happens but I think it is very rare.

What website are you using? Seeking.com or sugarbabies.co?

Very entertaining discussion. Keep enjoying yourself Warrior.

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