Because I really get into it. Like dry humping, really doing as much motion if not more than the dancer. But judging by the comments I get from most dancer such as “dude you gotta chill” “relax” and “god damn wtf” it seems that most patrons just lay there like a dead fish while she grinds and does all the work. I just can’t do that. What y’all do back there in VIP? Am I totally alone in doing this?
I move some, not like dry humping (thrusting), but more swaying with the music along with her moves. Like if she's been grinding, and gets up to turn to face me, I'll add a bit of twist on her hips, like we're dancing and staring a twirl. Gently though, she's the main energy in this dance.
After my trip to Follies a few months ago, my front thigh muscles were sore, from all the upward thrusting and rubbing I had been doing while girls were on top of me! :^)
If a girls asks me to remain still, I will... But she only gets one song to prove herself. She has to make up for my lack of involvement....
Letting the girl sell you dances, when there is no intimate rapport established, taking her into the dance booth to 'see if she is good', rather than because she is already being good in the front room?
Lap dancing started at MBOT, and it meant lap sitting. All front room.
FS was prohibited, but almost no other rules. Makeout sessions, though not universal,they were common.
Most of the time the addition of booths and back rooms does not increase the mileage, it just means that the girl does not have to just let it happen. She can control it. And of course it increases the house cut.
Sell a fantasy, delivering what is mostly a con.
Front room makeout sessions completely change this.
SJG maybe you should give a lap dance a shot some time. I guarantee it’s a lot more fun than writing a 30 page essay with 40 links that nobody reads every time you post. Just enter a strip club. Then come back to me.
^^^^^^^ and I say that that is the real issue with booths and back rooms. Once you have agreed to the time and money formula, you pretty much have to let her do it.
Whereas in the front room, you can give her money, but there is no standing agreement. So you should be able to lead it, and with a little charm and all, the odds of a front room makeout session are good.
Then instead of buying dances, you invite her into the back room, when it is time for your own pants to come down.
You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings, you approach her yourself, and you continue to see her regularly and to stay in communications with her.
^^^^^^^ and I say that that is the real issue with booths and back rooms. Once you have agreed to the time and money formula, you pretty much have to let her do it.
Whereas in the front room, you can give her money, but there is no standing agreement. So you should be able to lead it, and with a little charm and all, the odds of a front room makeout session are good.
Then instead of buying dances, you invite her into the back room, when it is time for your own pants to come down.
You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings, you approach her yourself, and you continue to see her regularly and to stay in communications with her.
Seems to me most PLs are pretty-tame when getting-dances either bc they are afraid, or bc that's the way they like it - I've seen RILs that seem like they are in a PL-trance just lightly touching a dancer like she was a delicate-flower.
I'm fairly proactive mostly in the groping department but I don't try to manhandle them like a porno-scene - IMO one can get a good-contact dance w/o being overly-physical.
^^^^^^^ And that, plus the extra house cut, is why clubs have gone to booths and backrooms. Usually it is going to better if you can do as much as possible with the girl of your choice, in the front room.
Not for free no, you should be feeding her money. But in the front room you should be able to better lead it.
I'm right there with you Muddy. But I never get the comments to chill or calm down, man your thrusts must be on some Peter North powerful type shit lol. Or maybe it depends on the dancers you pick.
I don’t get the comments either, but I also don’t just go for it right off the bat. I pay attention to the signals she’s sending. If she’s not sending them it’s usually one and done.
That kind of preference is more likely when it’s a younger guy lol. I remember the last time I was cool with the customer pulling my hair (who was buying a shit ton of dances from me), and also just being generally enthusiastic like you, then I got to hear it from a manager. Who threatened to move me to day shift and also later trash talked about me loudly to the house mom.
Though somewhere in that yelling was claiming stuff like the customer was playing with my crotch and making out...and those two things I didn’t do. (But I have other reasons to suspect there was an axe to grind with me anyways.)
So lol yeah in short it may just not be allowed. Or at minimum may cause negative attention.
I grind, hump, rub, even doggie style during the lap dance as much as she allows it. Even though my hands are wandering through her ass cheeks most of the time, when I am about to LDK, I try to grab her by the waist to control her riding as much as possible. Some girls don’t like me to take control of the lap dance but I can’t help it.
It depends, at a club with a dancer I lay back and enjoy. With my bitches I do whatever I want. With my main bitch we fuck afterwards. I usually get a lap dance each morning.
I think it’s a big “it depends”. For me, I enjoy striving to make a connection with the dancer, if only for the moment of the dance. Sometimes the connection happens, frequently it does not. And that connection (or lack thereof) can impact the dancer’s activity, and thus my response to it. That’s why, for me, one-way touching just doesn’t make the cut.
I dont really move around too much, sometimes ill lift the girl up, like cradling her by her ass lol i like to caress and kiss all over too but it really depends on the girl, the vibe, her body type, the club setup etc and none of that is going to happen from one dance except maybe caressing. You gotta work your way up to biting and caressing her asscheeks and getting a horny giggle or moan in response instead of a slap and security lol its really all about the energy, some girls you have it with, some you dont
I'm the laid back sort. Hell, aren't I paying to be given some TLC. There are times I'll move my hips with her, to let her know I'm enjoying what she's doing.
I rarely do lapdances -- I don't see the point, I'm not an LDKer, etc. Would rather qualify her better then go to VIP. When I do do lapdances, I mostly just sit there and let my hands roam as much as possible.
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SJG
If a girls asks me to remain still, I will... But she only gets one song to prove herself. She has to make up for my lack of involvement....
Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, then you invite her to the back room.
SJG
SJG
FS was prohibited, but almost no other rules. Makeout sessions, though not universal,they were common.
Most of the time the addition of booths and back rooms does not increase the mileage, it just means that the girl does not have to just let it happen. She can control it. And of course it increases the house cut.
Sell a fantasy, delivering what is mostly a con.
Front room makeout sessions completely change this.
SJG
You want the girl to open up and let it happen, not to preform some mechanical service upon you.
SJG
I’ll also put my hands on her hips and guide her ass to my dick because some dancers try to avoid it lol
Whereas in the front room, you can give her money, but there is no standing agreement. So you should be able to lead it, and with a little charm and all, the odds of a front room makeout session are good.
Then instead of buying dances, you invite her into the back room, when it is time for your own pants to come down.
You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings, you approach her yourself, and you continue to see her regularly and to stay in communications with her.
SJG
Whereas in the front room, you can give her money, but there is no standing agreement. So you should be able to lead it, and with a little charm and all, the odds of a front room makeout session are good.
Then instead of buying dances, you invite her into the back room, when it is time for your own pants to come down.
You select the girl, the one you want to be waking up with in the mornings, you approach her yourself, and you continue to see her regularly and to stay in communications with her.
SJG
SJG
I'm fairly proactive mostly in the groping department but I don't try to manhandle them like a porno-scene - IMO one can get a good-contact dance w/o being overly-physical.
Not for free no, you should be feeding her money. But in the front room you should be able to better lead it.
SJG
Though somewhere in that yelling was claiming stuff like the customer was playing with my crotch and making out...and those two things I didn’t do. (But I have other reasons to suspect there was an axe to grind with me anyways.)
So lol yeah in short it may just not be allowed. Or at minimum may cause negative attention.