Insulted

That would sting. Best to move on. She's got good hustle though.

Need context what happened?

gawker: if it makes you feel any better, you make the rest of us feel uncomfortavle w ourselves also

It depends on what you did. Men should be stoic and maybe this is just something you should take on the chin (boxing reference).

If we take her at face value, you tried the nice approach (friends) to manipulate her, then asked for sex. That's not a good because they don't like 'nice guys' (manipulative). But that's a stretch for me to assume that based on the gibberish she provided. She did call you a pervert so maybe something was creeping her out and you should back off and circle back later. Probably just your timing is wrong. Keep flirting with her then try again later.

Just because you're the one paying money, doesn't mean she can't have her fantasy too. You can't take the Sex For Money relationship you have for granted and treat her like a common hoe (even if she is one). She sounds like she wants you to be more discreet about the relationship.

Twenty Five: about 2 or 3 months ago she needed $1000. I offered to forward it in exchange for 3 OTC meetings. She counter-offered that two would do. I agreed.
She's been away and has returned but is pregnant & im to accompany her for an abortion. Last night I asked to collect on one of the "dates". She denied, saying I told her to forget about them when she left. I had the temerity to call her a liar and tell her that I intended to collect or there would be consequences. Fuck her if she can't take a joke.

lost cause on the grammar.

It's reverse psychology on her part. "I hate you, you're an asshole," just makes you try harder.

Perfect example - I have a friend that dated a girl younger than him. She was a gold digger and he was on the fence about her... until she said she didn't want to see him anymore. Then it offended him and he went all out on her. 3 years later, has a kid out of wedlock, had to wife her up, then get a house, and a new BMW for her. She got what she wanted, he's miserable. Reverse psychology worked on him.

That reverse psychology stuff is pretty sinister. No wonder my gut feeling was to mostly ignore her and pull back away from her.

I can't even read that... tell her to take the marbles out of her mouth :)

@gawker sounds like you’re repeating old behavior patterns, I would just ghost her that’s just shitty behavior on her part. I realize you are lonely and get it complexity this broad is a user. BTW don’t advance these girls money it’s a surefire way to get taken advantage of.
Fuck her, whether or not she can take a joke that’s my opinion.

"i wish u wld stop." the safest path is following her wishes

I think that pretty much wipes out accompanying her to the abortion.

Time to find some new pussy.

It sounds like a horribly unhealthy relationship. You prolly do make her uncomfortable, but it’s her fault too. You should not be the one accompanying her for an abortion, and the person accompanying her shouldn’t be worried ab their own sexual gratification anywhere near that time.

I just thought I’d post here because I like having Bj99 on top of me.

^^^ lmao

Oh, one other little detail. I bought her a car earlier in the week ($14,000) and the first night she had the car she stayed out all night, came home at 8:45 am complaining that a guy she’d known for awhile fucked her, then treated her like shit, and threw her out. I’m going to return the car tomorrow. I’ll eat the sales tax and other fees if need be.
THAT will make her uncomfortable.

^ I hate to lol.. but, that’s pretty funny. :P

This scenario seems too much like listening to ppl bitch at work.

Wow Gawker! I was going to say that more money usually cures those uncomfortable situations - but you’ve definitely fronted her good money already.

I agree about returning the car.

This sounds like your ATF - but my memory might be off.

Send her a dick pic. That will make her change her tune.

gawker, you truly are a reliable source of crazy but brilliant stories!

Free advice that I'm sure you'll ignore: don't get quite so involved in the lives of strippers you chase. No disrespect, but I think you like drama.

What Subraman said...

Did you try to get her hooked on smack?

You don't want to talk to her like you think she sells sex. Especially if you are f2f with her, all kinds of fun ways to talk to her.

And then f2f there is always the possibility of preliminary physical friendliness. Civilianize the interaction.

SJG

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Wow you did the pl car thing. I hope you got a GPS stuck in there soo when she says its stolen you know where it really is.

Gawker this story is way too fragmented for us to truely see whats going on. We need more detail and some narrative.

"I bought her a car earlier in the week ($14,000)" WTF! WTF! WTF!

I drive a 20+ y/o POS-mobile that has a blue book value of about $500, 4 wheels, an engine, and it gets me from A-to-B.

Gawker - I honestly think you need to stop seeing strippers OTC. You have way too much drama. You seemingly find dancers who turn it into a major obstacle course. Sex is not worth the hassle you are going through. I'd rather be celibate then deal with the shit you've dealt with.

Upright Citizen: you're right. This whole thread is now encompassing far too broad a topic and yet to put it all in context would require an article. Yes this is my ATF. Yes, she's no longer with her BF. Yes, she moved back into my condo. Yes, there's still conflict and strife, but there's also an attachment which just won't go away. I honestly don't write about our ongoing adventures here to garner your derision, but more to entertain and enlighten.
I'm in the "Autumn of my Years" at age 72 with myriad health problems. She at age 32 is still a very beautiful woman, who brings me both pain & pleasure. She's no longer the cute blonde I first met about 9 years ago, but she is understanding and helpful (I.e. We recently were in bed together. Despite having taken vitamin V I was as limp as can be. It was like trying to put a clam in a slot machine. She cuddled, we talked, I gave her a full body massage and she then began massaging my back, then my ass, then there was a stirring in my loins. She rolled me onto my back and performed magic tricks with her tongue & lips . I developed a resemblance to an erection and got off in about 10 seconds. Far from having great sex, but I might the next time.
My point: there's an affection there which is unique in my experience, is not normal in our type of relationship, and to me is worth all the crazy shit we go through. We could easily both be admitted to a psychiatric ward, but the guy's with the nets haven't caught us yet. She's been clean since Christmas and claims she no longer has cravings for dope. So on one hand I'm bragging while on the other I'm warning about what can happen.

Gawker - your last paragraph is an insightful and introspective view of your relationship.

Based on reading your writings here, it’s obvious you have feelings for her. Those feelings go well beyond just sex. You have been through quite a lot with her, and if it was only sex, I think things would have ended long ago.

I’m not sure about your ATF’s motivations. I just don’t know - as I’ve not seen her writings about your relationship. I’d like to think she has a deep emotional attachment to you.

However, since you provide her with more necessities - and a safe harbor - it’s very difficult to see where her attachment lies.

Well that clears up a few things. Is she going to be the sole beneficiary in your will?

I'm doing my damnedest to make sure I spend every cent before I check out. I don't have many assets, just a good pension which ends when I do.

Your posts offer insight into your relationship (with your ATF). I try to not judge. But I sometimes think it’s crazy the attachment you have to her.

Then - at some point - I realize that her body is your avatar - and then I understand a bit more.

I’m not saying it’s all about pussy. But a hot bodied 30’something can be very enticing.

In this case, it must be all about the pussy regardless of how many random dicks use it.