Ever been accused of being a racist based on what type of girl you prefer?

I like blond Nordic Aryan type girls best myself. What League of German Girls girls would have looked like in their 20s.

Does that make me a racism?

Never.

I'm an equal opportunity tits and ass guy.

I fuck them all...and still I have been accused of being a racist

You're not a racist by any means. But I wonder why you need to tell anybody what your preference is, if nobody asks. Just ask for "that girl, over there" who happens to be white American. I like women of all races and nationalities, though I developed an affinity for latinas when I visited Club Hong Kong in Tijuana a couple months ago. And, for some reason, I prefer Japanese women when I'm surfing porn at home (they're so beautiful and alluring and, oddly enough, I love the way many of them act -- submissive). Anyway, I have felt your concern of being viewed as racially biased. I don't club often, but was at a place a year ago where there was a mix of white and black women. It just so happened a couple of the white women were more attractive than the rest and I was determined to wait for one of them for a dance. In the process I turned down three black women who approached me. They were nice and didn't make a fuss, but I sat there thinking "Gee, I hope she doesn't think I'm turning her down because she's black" because I have gotten services (dances, couple blow-jobs, a hand-job) from black women back in the day.

@JAprufrock, "But I wonder why you need to tell anybody what your preference is, if nobody asks."

Sure, it isn't something I would go around telling anyone who'll listen. But it seems that lots of girls will actually ask me specifically what my type is. I don't know if they're trying to break the ice, trying to get a feel for whether I'm worth their time, or just trying to make conversation. But what's weird is how sometimes they'll ask me, I'll answer truthfully, and then they'll give me a funny look. You would think instead they would be like "Oh, cool, I'm a white American girl. So let's go have some fun with my vagina!" But surprisingly that's not always the reaction I get.

Beggars cant be choosers. I take what comes my way...which is truly all types.

No

I don't care about race, I care about looks. I like tight fit dancers with nice firm asses, and well shaped breasts. Prefer natural, but don't mind implants as long as they nicely shaped and soft.

If a dancer happens to mention race when I turn her down, it's usually from either an ugly or obnoxious dancer. Years ago I had very funny encounter with a very mediocre dancer light skinned black dancer, who kept insisting I had to get a dance with her. I told her three times I was waiting on another dancer, but she kept insisting. I finally saw the dancer I was waiting on, a hot tight bodies and dark skinned black dancer come out of the dressing room.

She usually won't stop by if another dancer is with me, but I mouth for her to stop by. So I said and here she comes now. She immediately sarcastically replies, "let me guess some skinny small-titted blonde." By this time the dancer I was waiting on, named Bryce was right behind her and Bryce says ready for our dance. The dumb founded shocked look on the other dancers face was priceless.

A similar thing happened with a Latin dancer at Mons Venus about twenty years ago who accused me of not liking Hispanic dancers, when the dancer who I was waiting on this very hot looking Cuban dancer stops by and says, "Still on for our time together?" I nod and she says, "let me freshen up and I'll be right." Her response was not as rude but she mumbled under her breath, "white guys also always go for her."

Occasionally, a dancer will ask if I like black girls. Sometimes latinas. Most of the times they are the ugliest dancer in the club. What I want to say is " only the good looking ones". But, I never do. I play along, then tell her " not now". I usually get a dirty look before she walks away.

Maybe she looked at you funny because she asked you what type, which could be thick, thin, princess, bad girl, etc, and you answered with a race. ;)

An answer that might be better-received could be something like "I don't really have a set type. It varies over time. Right now, you look like you could be my type, though!"

Good post rl27. Some dancers assume guys don't like a certain race of dancers. Black dancers are notorious for this.

Me? I looooove Latinas, and they'll always be my favorite. But it's mostly about who I find the hottest on a given night, not about race

My dick is color blind but I do occasionally get hit with the race card. 90% of the time from a fugly black dancer but I've even had white dancers accuse me of only getting dances from black girls. I just ignore them. I know what I am.

I had an experience like this with a Chinese girl I dated. She told me once that she thought I only liked her because she was Chinese. She was totally wrong, though. Her sister was also Chinese, but was about the exact opposite of what I look for in a woman.

Anyway, it's not just white girls that aren't impressed if for some reason they think you're mostly into their race rather than how her neck looks when her hair is pulled back or how it feels when she sits next to you.

I stick to white girls, and it's not because I'm racist, it's because that's what I'm attracted to. So, I do get the racist accusations all the time.

It has been white dancers who have been the ones to exhibit psycho behavior toward me when I didn't pick them. I'm usually a regular at the clubs I go to and don't stick to white dancers, though. I often stage tip when it's a slow night and no one else is tipping, even for dancers I'm not particularly attracted to.

I take on all contenders and still get hit with the race card

I dig any fit dancer of any race but I almost won't get dances from one group because every time I've picked one, she's had body odor, which is a huge turn off for me. It's unfortunate because that group also tends to give the highest mileage without the wacko.

To answer the OP question, yes, I have been called racist in the club but never anywhere else. I've also been called sexist at work for not hiring women who can't perform the job duties. I've certainly not hired more men then women but never based on sex or race. I need people who can do the f^^^^^^^ job.

Amen

@ppwh,

"Maybe she looked at you funny because she asked you what type, which could be thick, thin, princess, bad girl, etc, and you answered with a race. ;)"

I think you're right, honesty isn't always the best policy, especially in the emotionally charged environment of a strip club. Plus I think the majority of dancers are millennials now, and they've been conditioned to be very sensitive about race, so you have to tread lightly even if you clearly don't mean any offense.

it doesn't matter to me as long as they have a nice body, nice ass & 36B tit's or bigger

^ lol

I'm an equal opportunity PL. I get dances from all hot women.

Nope, and I never tell anyone a specific type or ethnicity either, typically ill sit at the bar or if I'm with friends a table look around and approach who appeals to me, whether or not it works is always determined by personality for me. I generally like busty, flirty, smiley types of all ethnic origins, and my longest stripper relationship is over 12 years with an absolutely gorgeous mulatta of South American ancestry with long dark hair and a D bust as she has gotten older she has gotten even sexier and classier.

I rarely tell anyone in a club what type of dancers I like to get dances from. I'm attracted to 3 types with some variation but I'm not attracted to some types. It's my money and I'm not going to spend it on dancers I'm not attracted to. I call that biology. If someone wants to call that racism then I believe the one saying that is the racist and I don't care what race tries to call someone racist based on attraction. If it's a white girl or black girl, either one is racist if she thinks it's racism if you only get dances based on how attracted you are to a dancer and that excludes a lot of a typical race. Some will call it racism but I think the true racist is the one doing the name calling. I usually don't get dances from fat and or not good looking dancers. I don't care what race they are. There have been groups of white girls who I thought were not pretty and I didn't buy dances. Same for other races. A true racist would refuse dances from the prettiest girl he saw in a club in his own opinion if he thought she was the wrong race and that was why he refused to get dances from her. That's what I call racism. Just because you aren't attracted to someone and don't spend money on dancers whom you don't like, I don't think that is racism. The dancers that are excluded might be unhappy and unhappy dancers and some people like to throw out the word racist if they are that kind of mean. I think people throwing names around are the problem.

Whether it is a protest of people saying Jew stay home or a dancer or some person saying someone is racist , they are both name calling and acting the same in my opinion.

SJG has been because he prefers his girls to be asleep. Oh, wait, you wrote racist not rapist.

Personally, I prefer Middle Eastern then white then Latinas. Nothing wrong with having a preference! But shit if her body is nice and she's friendly I'm down with it. The club has a buffet of options! I've been called racist before outside of the SC because I prefer dating women outside my race. But just like my older brother said "I'm not black I'm OJ". I'm mixed so technically dating white girls doesn't make me racist. Too black for white people and not black enough for black people. Sucks being a mulatto sometimes

The black girls sometimes play that card. I suppose part of it is justified (no doubt that SC reflects and magnifies some bad society behaviors), some is just frustration about people's non-racist preferences, and some just a tactic that works on the kinds of guys who have white guilt.

For the most part, I do not ever get into these discussions. As documented in my article, this falls under "don't be a little bitch". If I've turned down a stripper, 0% chance I'm answering any of her questions, much less one about my preferences.

I was told by a black dancer that I didn't like black girls just because I got a dance from a white girl.

I would say that about 90% of the dances I've had have been from white girls. I've had a handful of dances from Latinas and Eastern European women. I only recall one time getting a dance from an Asian and one time getting a dance from a black girl. To me, it really doesn't matter as long as I find them to be hot. I have not noticed one type to be better at dances over the other. I will admit that I do have a strong preference towards white women, but part of that is the fact that I am a white guy. A lot of us have a preference for our own race. It does not make us racist. Being racist would mean that you actually have negative opinions towards people that are of a different race.

"I will admit that I do have a strong preference towards white women, but part of that is the fact that I am a white guy. A lot of us have a preference for our own race."

this seems to be true in most cases. the majority of people date/marry someone within their own race.

but me? i prefer women outside of my race. i'm black, and i'm open to ANY race, but like everyone else, i have preferences. i mostly like latinas and white women. asians and black women don't appeal to me nearly as often as latinas and white women do.

Yeah, a hot chick is a hot chick. There's no race that I'm just against on principle. But, if you randomly picked 30 white, black, asian, latin, & indian girls in a room, I might typically be attracted to:

1 of the Indian girls 5 of the black girls 8 of the Asian girls 13 of the latin girls 13 of the white girls

Just a matter of who I'm more likely to find attractive. Which doesn't mean I don't occasionally run into a super hot Indian girl, and fuck yeah I'll get dances from her, especially if her family is skilled at packing and shifting

Who cares? There's hot girls of every race and ethnicity. Except maybe Asians but that's just me.

Actually the mixed girls are some of the finest imo. But i too am black but prefer white and latina women. There are some sexy black women too just less. I almost never find asians attractive but does that make me racist? I do however think its odd to catagorize an entire group of women though(which i just did but will admit ive seen a few attractive asian women).

i like 'em all.

HOT.

that IS all that matters.

.

I'm black I can't be racist lol

^^^Sure you can.

One time at San Jose T's, now defunct, one very cute black girl did her set on stage, and two white guys were sitting there. Then the staff came up and admonished them about something.

So after the girl was sitting with me. We talked. I said, "Did they try to paw you?" ( Touching was not allowed.) But no, she said, "They were racists." And she explained that she knew this because she could feel it.

Apparently they were not tipping, just sitting there, and this is what the staff talked with them about.

I have found, and have read things to support this, that blacks are quicker to define problems as being caused by racism. I have found that black girls are smart and interesting, but it is easier to get wires crossed with them than it is with others.

SJG

I get hit with the race card sometimes. I'm just not attracted to most black girls. There are exceptions to this, including one I took OTC not long ago. But on many nights my preferences become obvious in who I choose to sit with, tip, etc. and I sometimes hear comments about it. Too bad. I won't feel remotely guilty about who I am and am not attracted to, whcih is something largely outside of my control.

I oddly enough never been called racist in the club despite the amount of slim white chicks I deny vs the number of Hispanics I go with even against other black women.

I think it's cause I'm black. Told you black people can't be racist lmao :-P

S-man; Interesting breakdown. My breakdown wouldn't be too different from yours, except I'd rank Asians almost level with White/Hisp. As for Indians, are you talking the SW Asia country kind, or the group referred to as Native American ? If the former, I could count the numbers of those I've encountered on the finger of 1 hand. If the later, I'd pick a lot more than 1 out of 30. Honestly, I don't think one could accurately peg the ethnic/nationality group on several occasions. One dancer who I initially thought was Hispanic was actually Persian. Many dancers are "mutts" (in a good way) to varying degrees. I just let my little head do the thinking when choosing dancers.

Yes, Indian subcontinent kind. There are some Indian women in the clubs here, here and there. But I wasn't actually doing this thought experiment with strippers, just speaking generally.

I, too, agree that mixed race women are often really gorgeous. In particular, Eurasian features are a fave of mine

i am a racist.

i like 'em ALL.

Is it racist to hate everyone equally?

Sometimes, when I've had to turn down pushy dancers, they will proclaim loudly that it's because I'm bigoted against [whatever race/ethnicity they are] dancers. That's an intimidation tactic (which never works).

Maybe just don't use the term 'white'. Dancers have their radar up to detect any guy who might be a problem. Using the term specifically in that context isn't racist, but it may be hitting some tripwires.

Also, white supremacy is all over the news, TV, and radio right now. This may be a good time to practice subtlety.

All things being equal I like Asian girls, but it's really a personality thing and not race so I buy dances and date all races. I love fucking black girls, white girls, Asians, Latina....just as long as we have chemistry. Race is unimportant.

I am a racist, but my genitals believe in diversity and multi-culturalism

@Call.Me.Ishmael,

Agree with everything you said. But the thing is, even when I avoid race and just say something like "I prefer thick, curvy girls," sometimes, not always, but sometimes, they actually think I'm making a comment about their weight. As if I just said "I prefer fat chicks, like you." Seriously, this has happened. I can't win. The next time a dancer asks me what my type is, I'm just going to say "you are."

Thanks for all the advice, guys

"You are." is the safest answer. I usually tell them that my tastes are all over the map, which is true. Even if it's not true, you can still say that to save yourself some grief.

Not all, but many dancers have self-esteem issues and are very self-conscious about their appearance. Ironically, I don't think that there's as much body confidence amongst strippers as most people think.

So, yeah, any time you make a specific comment about appearance, you're wandering into a minefield that has more mines than field.

I used to get accused of being racist all the time by the black dancers at one of my former favorite clubs. I never could understand it, because I had plenty of black dancers give me dances there. And for the most part, they had the wrong attitude. I don't find anything good about a poor attitude.

Call.Me.Ishmael posted: "Also, white supremacy is all over the news, TV, and radio right now. This may be a good time to practice subtlety."

Or maybe it's an even better time to grow a sack. That way you can stop worrying about how you are perceived by strippers.

@rickdugan,

Well if they think you're a racist then you're probably not going to get the best hands-on treatment during a LD. It's the same reason why I apply a little cologne before I head to the club. I don't really care that much what they think of me.

@rickdugan said: "Or maybe it's an even better time to grow a sack. That way you can stop worrying about how you are perceived by strippers."

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My sack is fully grown. Thanks for checking in. The reality is that white supremacy is top-of-mind right now (whether or not you think it should be) and mentioning race can make people wary, depending on the context or lack thereof.

I don't worry about what strippers think of me, but I do try to be proactive in how they perceive me, i.e. not creepy, a jerk, dangerous, cheap, or even not a (potential) bigot.

Enjoy your day.

"I don't worry about what strippers think of me, but I do try to be proactive in how they perceive me, i.e. not creepy, a jerk, dangerous, cheap, or even not a (potential) bigot."

"Well if they think you're a racist then you're probably not going to get the best hands-on treatment during a LD."

I think you are both projecting your own delicate sensitivities by assuming that your dancers share them. Frankly, I don't think most of the white dancers give a shit and the darker ones won't either if you are dancing with them. No "subtlety" - aka verbal tapdancing - needed.

However sensitive my delicacies may or may not be, I prefer to not be perceived as racist (or potentially racist) by anyone including strippers. Dunno... I guess I'm funny like that.

I have no idea whether a dancer might share my opinion on race, or disagree, or not give a shit. That said, it seems smarter to not test those waters and sour a fun night. The OP stated that his phrasing for his 'type' got him some awkward reactions from dancers, possibly because he might be perceived as bigoted. The feedback from myself (and others) has been "change your phrasing a bit and see if that helps."

If there's any projecting going on, it might be you projecting your own worldview into a thread where a guy just wants less awkward when he's shooting the shit with a dancer.

By not worrying about it at all, which includes not really caring about how I'm perceived, my conversations are as care free as they come. ;)

I don't have to sit there and choose my words. If I am asked a direct question about my preferences, I give a direct answer. This is my entertainment, pure and simple. I am always nice about it, but I don't mince words.

Of course, I send girls away quickly when I don't like them, so I'm not usually sitting with one who will likely take offense to my preferences anyway. Another thing you might consider.

Oh yeah, and the black girl I mentioned above re: OTC knows that I don't normally find black girls attractive, but that she is one of the rare exceptions. This didn't stop her from taking my money after she took what I put inside two of her three orifices.

I should also mention that plenty of white strippers are racist in their own rights. Two girls I've taken OTC in recent months made it a point of pride to let me know that they have never had black dicks inside them. I had never asked in the first place, but I guess they thought that this was a selling point with their white customers. I found these comments to be a little crass, but it didn't stop me from doing xyz with either of them.

Just a few random thoughts fwiw.

Racist?

youtube.com

Fast forward to 1:30 in the clip.

I was at 2001 (Tampa) once and this black girl came up to me after I'd been in the club for about 5 minutes. I turned her down. About half an hour later, she asked me again and I turned her down again. She said "oh, you must like white girls" and left in a huff.

I'm black.

I will say that I feel bad sometimes for black girls in white/mixed clubs - I admit, if I'm in the mood for black women in particular I'll just go to a black club - but it is what it is. It also could just be that girl in particular. There's only one black girl at my now-local spot that I would even consider getting a dance from...but she might be my favorite dancer there. Girls have got to learn they can't take things personally...and then try to project...at the club.

"Two girls I've taken OTC in recent months made it a point of pride to let me know that they have never had black dicks inside them."

SS.

Here's a true story about a buddy of mine. I'll give you a quick aside -- my buddies and I are all generally pro-police. We don't support police misconduct or abuse, obviously, but on the whole we have a generally pro-police outlook.

Okay, back to the story. My buddy is one of those guys who often gets enfatuated with teh waitress. In this club, the waitress was a HHHHOOOTTT Asian girl, bad girl in a fun way. And she dug him back, she talked the manager into letting my buddy take her in the back for a VIP, and agreed to go OTC with him as long as it was a double-date with me and her BFF at the club. I have to tell you, I think PLs who like the waitress are dingbats of the highest order, but my buddy was about to score the unicorn. THEN for some reason the knucklehead starts talking to her about politics, I told him to stop but he kept pressing his luck, then he hit on the topic of police (some police brutality story or other was in the news at the time) and it turns out she's super super anti-police and actively protests. You know what happens next: they have words. He is disgusted with her and wants no part of OTC.

In short: don't talk about politics. 22 year olds who have never been to college, do not have the same political views as successful educated middle-aged men. That's just what it is.

Conversely, at the Cadillac Lounge, I was sitting with a dancer and leaning heavily towards doing a VIP with her, and for reasons I can't fathom she started telling me views on race (nutshell ... not a fan of black people in or out of the club). Pretty toxic stuff and not really pulling any punches. It didn't take me long to realize that there's other hot dancers out there and I really didn't feel like helping this woman make her car payment. I told her I was done for the night, which both surprised and annoyed her. And I didn't give a damn.

^^^^Good for you. Fuck that cunt. Or better yet, let some neo-Nazi stick his 3-inch dick in her diseased hole.