65000, and the only strip club in city limits closed 10 years ago but fortunately I have a wealth of clubs within 15 miles of here it doubles as you get further out 25 miles drive there are at least 15 clubs.
Within the city Phoenix limits, there are 24 clubs, serving a population 1.5 million; however, within the metroplex, there are a total of 33 clubs, and a total headcount of 2.94 million. That count is skewed because I only counted populations in the cities that actually have at least one club. Mesa has half a million people, no clubs. The actual metro population here is more like 4.5 million. So that's like one club for every 136,000 residents. Clearly, Christie's Phoenix had better open up damn soon (under management that gives a crap) and take some of the pressure off some of the other clubs. They have lots of seating.
Suburb of Miami - population ~225,000 w/ 4 mediocre SCs - Miami-Dade county population 2.7M - the tri-county area that constitutes South FL probably has 50+ SCs
Portland, Oregon. Population of around 620,000. There are 50 strip clubs in the city and a few more in the suburbs outside the city limits. Some people say that Portland is the strip club capital of America. I don't know if that is true but we do have a shit ton of strip clubs.
Not sure about city size but about 250,000 within 25 miles and no strip clubs until you drive about an hour.
Where I lived in NC at one time, less than 50,000 people within 25 miles and 2 or 3 decent strip clubs, a lot more if you drove an hour.
I don't know if local officials or the religious are keeping strip clubs out of my local area or what the deal is. Of course South Carolina seems to be losing clubs even in the bigger cities.
My city proper, is about 60,000 with zero clubs in city limits. Like twentyfive said, there's half a dozen or more within 15 minutes double that if you goto 30, and maybe double again if you jump to an hour.
I don't really know, but the ratio is not that good. No mileage places except in San Francisco. And those are not that many, considering the collective population of the entire Bay Area. As said before, there seems to be some barrier to opening new clubs. We don't have these road side shit holes that are so much loved in other places. Adult Entertainment ordinances, totally unconstitutional, are probably the reason.
Atlanta seems to be high per capita, and they say Portland is the highest. Having been decades ago to Portland I was taken with how many bars have been adjusted to also be strip clubs. Maybe like 5 or so per block in some areas.
One factor is the decoupling of the alcohol rules from the skin level, and probably no special extra permit required for dancers.
So though I oppose alcohol and would prefer that clubs not have it. I know that that makes it harder on club owners. Some custies expect it, and it is also another way for the club to make money. So I notice that in places with lots of clubs, like Portland, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and Florida, I think there are not skin level restrictions connected with alcohol. So then with more clubs there is more competition.
LA has lots of clubs, I still don't know how that rates per capita though.
All of the local ordinances, always unconstitutional, are what destroy the industry in place after place. The prostitution law is extremely hard to enforce. By itself there are always ways for people to do what they want and avoid problems.
Oakland had had 4 TUSCL clubs, then just 3, no zero. JS69 found a newspaper article saying that they had outlawed them. Again, just as unconstitutional as the laws Melvin Beli got over turned.
Probably these clubs were little more than hooker bars with a stage added. The hooker bars probably do still exist. If one started asking questions, just like looking for our Mexican bar underground, they could probably find them.
I was noticing that as well, shadow. If my memories of where certain people are from is at all accurate, looks like there is a decent amount of SE Michigan folk who live in the Burbs all the same amount of time away from all the wonderful clubs. It's kinda nice to have all the clubs centrally located nearby, but distinctly separate from where we all actually want to live.
Another interesting survey is if anyone would even be willing to shit where they sleep if there was a club in town. I personally would not for a myriad of reasons.
Best nearby example:
Seattle: 600,000 pop. 10 strip clubs (listed on TUSCL), though two are now closed.
Suburb where I live:
100,000 pop. Presently no clubs, but may have had as many as three in the past, with two of them open at the same time. Maybe all three. (Four other suburbs only have 1 each.)
Portland may be the national winner: 583,776 pop. 50 clubs (per TUSCL)
I think the problem is zoning. If a city has an ordinance that no home, school, or church can be within 1000 ft of a SC, that presents a "problem" to realtors and real estate developers. So then the developer does to city hall with-a-bee-in-his-or-her-bonnet on fake moral crusade. Which usually means, lean pressure on the club to close it (due to market forces or zoning violation. Now the developer is free to expand. *dusts of hands* problem *fixed*.
A few years ago the county that I live in realized that they had no zoning regulations in place for adult businesses. Strip clubs, novelty stores, etc. So they established 5 areas within the county where such businesses could be located. Don't think I'll ever see one.
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Fortunately, starting just a 30 minute drive away is the arguably the best strip club area for extras in the country.
usually around 5 clubs although 2 keep opening and closing under new owners.
how many times have I been to any of those clubs in the past decade? twice.
But I can get to 8 mile and most of the Detroit clubs in about 30 minutes or so. ;)
Strip Clubs within the city: 0
Strip Clubs within a 50 mile radius: dozens
Where I lived in NC at one time, less than 50,000 people within 25 miles and 2 or 3 decent strip clubs, a lot more if you drove an hour.
I don't know if local officials or the religious are keeping strip clubs out of my local area or what the deal is. Of course South Carolina seems to be losing clubs even in the bigger cities.
Atlanta seems to be high per capita, and they say Portland is the highest. Having been decades ago to Portland I was taken with how many bars have been adjusted to also be strip clubs. Maybe like 5 or so per block in some areas.
One factor is the decoupling of the alcohol rules from the skin level, and probably no special extra permit required for dancers.
So though I oppose alcohol and would prefer that clubs not have it. I know that that makes it harder on club owners. Some custies expect it, and it is also another way for the club to make money. So I notice that in places with lots of clubs, like Portland, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and Florida, I think there are not skin level restrictions connected with alcohol. So then with more clubs there is more competition.
LA has lots of clubs, I still don't know how that rates per capita though.
All of the local ordinances, always unconstitutional, are what destroy the industry in place after place. The prostitution law is extremely hard to enforce. By itself there are always ways for people to do what they want and avoid problems.
SJG
Probably these clubs were little more than hooker bars with a stage added. The hooker bars probably do still exist. If one started asking questions, just like looking for our Mexican bar underground, they could probably find them.
SJG
BUT I can drive 10 minutes and be in a city with 1.4m people and about a dozen clubs.
SJG
Another interesting survey is if anyone would even be willing to shit where they sleep if there was a club in town. I personally would not for a myriad of reasons.
We should extend the S.D. Blue Trolley so that it stops right underneath the Cascadas Hotel.
You ever try the other Mexican border towns?
SJG
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Seattle: 600,000 pop. 10 strip clubs (listed on TUSCL), though two are now closed.
Suburb where I live:
100,000 pop. Presently no clubs, but may have had as many as three in the past, with two of them open at the same time. Maybe all three. (Four other suburbs only have 1 each.)
Portland may be the national winner: 583,776 pop. 50 clubs (per TUSCL)