Competition between PLs
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Some classic stripperweb hustling advice is to try and make guys compete at the stage. It's been posted in multiple threads there. They talk about how once one guy gives a big tip, suddenly a whole bunch will join in, all trying to look like the highest roller. Even if they weren't tipping at all before.
This always sounded stupid to me - if I wasn't interested before, why would I go all in just because some other dude started tipping big?
But maybe it works on some guys. During my last club visit, my CF was sitting alone when I rolled in. There were two other PLs catty-corner from us at the bar. Well, she told me about how she went out for her birthday two days earlier. I didn't know it was her birthday, but I happened to have brought a little gift, a bottle of her favorite perfume. She forgot that she had told me her favorite, so she was surprised that I knew. My CF has a animated, very feminine personality and that describes her reaction, too. She seemed happy and even motioned over some of her stripper friends to tell them.
Well, one of those other PLs couldn't hold back. "Hey! Hey, (CF Name)!", he yelled. "Do you like Gucci? I'm going to buy you Gucci!" As far as I could tell, he was a regular at the club, but not my CF's regular.
So is the competition hypothesis true? Would you start tipping 5s and 10s at the stage to outdo another PJ? Would you jump to buy another dude's favorite Gucci if you saw her getting a gift?
This always sounded stupid to me - if I wasn't interested before, why would I go all in just because some other dude started tipping big?
But maybe it works on some guys. During my last club visit, my CF was sitting alone when I rolled in. There were two other PLs catty-corner from us at the bar. Well, she told me about how she went out for her birthday two days earlier. I didn't know it was her birthday, but I happened to have brought a little gift, a bottle of her favorite perfume. She forgot that she had told me her favorite, so she was surprised that I knew. My CF has a animated, very feminine personality and that describes her reaction, too. She seemed happy and even motioned over some of her stripper friends to tell them.
Well, one of those other PLs couldn't hold back. "Hey! Hey, (CF Name)!", he yelled. "Do you like Gucci? I'm going to buy you Gucci!" As far as I could tell, he was a regular at the club, but not my CF's regular.
So is the competition hypothesis true? Would you start tipping 5s and 10s at the stage to outdo another PJ? Would you jump to buy another dude's favorite Gucci if you saw her getting a gift?
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I think it comes down to different approaches to strip clubbing, though: looking big in front of a crowd vs. interacting w/ the dancers.
If you're trying to look big in front of a crowd / one-up other guys, it would make sense see which dancer is getting tipped big and try to tip her bigger. It might cost less than a Jaguar payment, too...
i wonder how strippers feel about receiving gifts from PLs. i mean, obviously she's going to act appreciative of the gift when you hand it to her, but i wonder how they *really* feel about receiving gifts from customers. nina, duomaxwell or milanicash......any of you gals care to weigh in on this?
That said, I do agree that often times when one person tips it leads to others tipping. A previous favorite of mine used to give me money to tip her with on stage when she'd go, if she'd get called up while we were sitting there she'd hand me a stack of bills from her purse and ask me to give them to her on stage. It was pretty effective, every time I'd tip her it would lead to other guys getting up and tipping. I'm not the make it rain type, even with her own money, so its not like I was making a show of it or encouraging competition. But, I did walk up from my table once or twice during her set to tip her so others did see it. She'd do the same thing when I bought dances, I'd never pay her right after the dance, she'd ask me to just give it to her while she was on stage next time. I never paid enough attention to figure out if anyone was competing with me, but I definitely noticed she'd get a lot more tips when I tipped her early in her set than she would if I just let her do her thing and paid her at the table.
Not to say it doesn't happen. I've just never seen such a thing happen in a club.
Doesn't make any sense to me to do such a thing.
I think there are some values that all tuscl'ers buy into, that seems so obvious to us that we don't even question whether other people value other things. I think "stageside tipping war" is in the same class as "making it rain" are both for guys for whom being the center of attention, grabbing the attention of other PLs as well as dancers, conspicuous consumption, etc., are important. For me, I'm looking for exactly the opposite -- attracting no one's attention except the dancer I want to hang out with, and getting the most physical contact for my money; any modest stage tipping I do is in service of achieving that
Some clubs are more of a seller's market - i.e. may be sorta the only game in town for one reason or another and thus PLs may have to compete for the dancers' attention.
For the most-part I don't see that much stage-tipping in the clubs I visit except the random PL wanting to get a dancer's attention for a post-stage visit - I guess some newbs/inexperienced-SCers may be motivated to tip if they see someone else do it, but I think it's far from a sure-thing that others will follow b/c they see one dude tipping.
I guess if there's a hot-dancer several PLs want; they may be motivated to tip her if another PL does so he can give himself a chance at the dancer stopping by his table instead of the other PL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJehlr1…
^^^ Actual surveillance footage.
But I'm sure as fuck not going to compete with peacocks who make it rain.
Haha that's mighty bold of her
I usually make an appointment with my CF whenever I go to the club. It only happened one time that I came in and she was busy hustling someone to go VIP. She saw me and gave me an odd look and mouthed the words " l will see you a little later"..
My drive to the club is about an hour so I am not at all happy. Inresponded by grabbing a very hot Latina spinner who I spent the several hours with with and later that evening OTC as well.
My CF was so apologetic and jealous that she was never "late again". It cost her $300-$ 400 that day.