What's Your Playbook?
What do you guys do once you enter the club. How do you proceed to live out your dreams? I am a rank amateur and have recently gotten into the scene but as my previous discussion shows, I probably do not know what I am doing. So, this is my attempt to learn from the wise men in this board.
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PS don't pay attention to any logical advice they're only giving it to break your balls.
So, I thought maybe if I just relax in the club, become a regular, get to know the dancers and waitresses a bit...eat, drink buy the dancers food...which I read on here is a way to spend more time with them. Eventually the Idea was for me to broach the subject to meet outside the club or they may ask themselves, but this is basically what I was going for...what I call the long game (I guess).
But seems like I am doing something wrong because, the girls in the blues I frequent are trying to get dances or sell VIPs...and eventually they leave. I let them know I will compensate them for their time and hand over $40-$100 plus drinks over the course of 1-3 hours. Sometimes they give me their numbers and I'm not sure what to do with it. Like the other day a dancer sent 'hey' to which I replied 'what's up?', then nothing.
What is wrong with my approach or attitude? I would love to just LDK in the club, but like I said issues, so...I am trying something different.
B. Be prepared to catch some amount of shit here. This is a poor environment for the thin skinned. See TwentyFive above.
If it's a night the CF isn't working, I debate with myself who I might try out, or who I might go again with.
The rare times I go to a new club, I just look for the girl that I can't stop looking at, and if she even comes just close to me, I make eye contact. Unless she has a regular she's walking to, she'll stop by. I make a deal...and the rest is history! LOL
Strip-clubbing is not an exact science, there are many variables thus exact outcomes/results are not gonna happen - generally the more one spends the better one's odds are of getting what they want but one also needs to know what they are doing.
Different PLs have different approaches - some will not spend too much ITC b/c they feel this will de-incentivise her from OTC if she's already getting good $$$ from you ITC - others will say you need to show her your good for $$$ by spending ITC.
OTC is not as easy or guaranteed as just being willing to pay - in some clubs or areas it may be a bit more commom but it seems it usually has a pretty-high failure rate - often times it rakes multiple visits w/ dancers to build a rapport.
If the dancers feel you are being tight ($$$) ITC then good-chance they won't rake you seriously w.r.t. OTC.
Bottom-line it's business and best way to deal with dancers is to be direct on what you want but tactful and let the chips fall where they may - like I mentioned OTC has a high-failure rare and all one can do is try/keep-working-it.
You can do a search for "OTC" in the TUSCL search box and see many previous threads and some TUSCL articles.
And BTW, have you not tried Viagra for ITC or does it not work for you?
If the club is someplace that I go frequently, then I either go sit with a regular if I see one free or else I just sit and let hem find me.
On the issue of money, the more you spend ITC the more she'll expect for OTC, so it depends on your budget. My OTC budget is $200 to the dancer for anything from a quickie to over night, and in my club for the usual talent that's a decent offer for the quickie; beyond that depends on if she "likes" me as I leave it up to her. But my usual $180 to the house for a dancer ITC and a $200 OTC bonus seems to be enough to get some action. I wouldn't spend $1k on anyone!
My CF "loves" me, but I didn't ask about take out until my last (4th) visit, and she was quick to confirm we will make arrangements next visit. I considered she was a sure thing due to the level of extras I get from her; complete GFE. This broke a streak of maybe 10 rejections in a row over the last several years. It's just not an extras or OTC club, but it can happen!
Of course not. I was poking fun at the guys that make this out to be overly complicated. It is really simple. I have no playbook. No system. I chat with the ladies and then get to the point. I do need to talk to her and get a dance or two first. I don't usually got for ITC and I like mixing OTC with other pleasures so sometimes I plan out an evening with her. Dinner, drinks, hotel. This helps some new to the game say yes. That is about as close as I get to a system or a playbook.
There are a few clubs around these parts that I don't need to say a word. The dancers come to you and say tell you what they will do and for how much.
Took me a year to get OTC from my ATF, and it was she who suggested it...I was shy!
So, I've had a strippers say things along these lines...Anything goes in the VIP, but need to go to the VIP which is (depending on club) $150-$300 and then have to pay her $500-$800 for an hour to spend time with me in the VIP. Luckily I didn't bite on any of these offers, but these happen so often I'm starting to think they are the norm...does this sound no similar what you guys experience?
I think these dancers have you pegged for an easy-mark - $150 - $300 sounds like a lot (I assume you club in the Austin, TX area according to the clubs you have reviewed) -I would check w/ club staff (manager, etc) on exactly the room-fees in case you are going just by what the dancers tell you - if indeed the room are that expensive good-chance she is getting a good-cut of that room-fee (clubs often give dancers a cut of the room-fees; 50% or more, as an incentive to get them to sell rooms - although many dancers will not admit to this b/c it may cut into their tip from the custy) - anyway, I'm not too familiar with the Austin SC scene but I had it in mind it was not necessarily a very high-cost SC area (I think there are some clubs w/ $10-dances) - in most areas $200 to $300 is often enough for VIP extras although this may not include the room.
You need to learn how to be the one in control and not just go w/ w/e the dancers tell you - many dancers can smell an easy-mark a mile away - many dancers if the custy asks how much for VIP, they'll quote him a sky-high price since many newbs will-bite - choose a # you think is fair and stick to that and let her walk if she wants to - often times they try to play hardball and say no to a fair-offer then come back later if they are having trouble making $$$.
In your previous thread you mentioned they often hangout w/ you for a good-while even though they are not making that much from you - that would tell me there's not that much $$$ in that club - if they could be getting $500+ for VIP they would not be sitting you for an hour or two for a tip.
And why would you wanna do VIP for an hour - most guys are not gonna be fucking for an hour - most-likely 15-minutes of action w/ the rest of the time talking which one can do on the main-floor - most clubs have 30-minute options and some even 15-minute options for less $$$.
But yeh, I club in Austin. The specific clubs I frequent and Palazio, Perfect 10 and Rick's. But all Rick's seems to be the most reasonable and also has the less attractive dancers.
I'm also a religious practitioner of RickyBoy's The System.
Just don't buy dances and don't let them sell you dances, as that is a chumps game. Civilianize it with front room friendliness. Get a makeout session going. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room. And plan on waking up with her the next morning too.
SJG
Then again, read his posts in other threads and make up your own mind as to whether or not his advice is for you.
Lots of civilian ways to give them money.
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SJG