First song or second song decides..
Darkblue999
Somewhere in the club
Usually first song with a dancer decides whether I am going to have few more dances with her. If I didn't like first song that's it no more dances. Few times I tried by extending to second song assuming it will be more intense and sensual and liberal but no.Its same as first one with little more teasing for up selling to 3rd one.
But whoever gives me amazing first song dance she is the one I would be spending all my money .
But whoever gives me amazing first song dance she is the one I would be spending all my money .
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On occasion I will take a 2nd sympathy dance because I know the girl is trying, she just doesn't know what she's doing. Her heart is in the right place but her body isn't cooperating.
I would take this shit when I was green & not TUSCLarly educated but these days I pretty much have zero patience/tolerance for this but have not ran into this in a long time - a dancer that gives me a crappy 1st dance b/c she wants to force me into more dances is a one & done not only for that visit but very good chance I'll never get dances from her ever again - and if I'm extra pissy that day & I catch on to her shit very early-on into the song I nay just get-up & not pay her for even that song which I have actually done at least once b/f that I recall - if the dances are cheap ($10) I'll nust eat the one bad dance & stop, but if dances are $20+ I won't pay the ROB and if I catch on to her bull early-on in the song.
According to some stripperweb dancers they believe it's better to give tame dances to begin with until a certain number of songs(3? 4?). in essence they want a certain amount of money before you get a good dance. To me from a customer pov this is counter productive. I could only see this working on inexperienced pl's with money to throw away.
I agree with op. More often than not, if it's lame to begin with it doesn't get any better(at least not fast enough within a reasonable # of songs). And besides why would I spend money buying lame dances( w/o any guarantee it's gonna get better no less) just to get the same quality dance others give to begin with. The ones that give good dances from the start Will always get more dances from me. I give 1 dance(2 if she's a 9+) and if it sucks I'm done.
but if that's not the case, i don't understand why they would purposefully want to give lame first-song lap dances. it seems to me that if you give a great dance from the START, that would entice the customer to buy more. as opposed to starting out giving tame dances on purpose--which is likely to discourage him (or lopaw) to buy more
You can usually gauge her after 1-2 songs. Mileage and rapport help stack dances for me. And the dancers know when you are an experienced monger and the smart ones cut that out. And sometimes you need to give a newbie dancer or a baby dancer some slack. It works both ways.
I still attest that shopping for gorgeous women is mind blowing fun, to quote RandomMember.
I can't recall ever doing just one and immediately going to VIP. Usually two or more will help me decide if I'll be doing VIP with them.
You can feed her money when she is sitting with you in the front room. If she wants to get GFE with you, she can do it in the front room.
Need to break out of the structure of keeping time in songs and using booths and back rooms.
After things have escalated to the point where it is really necessary, you invite her to the back room. But that point you won't have any problems with her.
Probably best to plan on taking her home with you, when you do it this way.
SJG
Like Papi said, if I get the impression she's holding back on song one expressly for the purpose of selling a second one, I'm gonna cut bait ASAP. If there's a reasonable chance she's just getting to know what I like, I'll give her that chance. There's also a clues in that pre-dance time, if she tries to start halfway through a song I'll get up and leave without paying^. If she sits next to me and keeps her clothes on, I'll usually go through with the first dance but there's a 99% chance we won't get to number two. I have called it off after a few girls sat down next to me to wait for the next song without disrobing, but those were girls with complex outfits and I wasn't about to pay for a dance with them either wearing it spending most of the song trying to get out of it while I sat there and watched. Now, I just avoid those girls all together.
^ Some exceptions apply
That's why we test drive cars. Don't buy a dance until you see how she performs front room then if you like it take it for a test drive
Anyway, back on this discussion topic, I was reminded of the first lap dance U2 and I did. We had made a pretty good connection. She took off everything but he thong and when the music started, we were off. It was as good a dance as the club would allow, and while she allowed a bit of two way contact, she was constantly having to watch out for the bouncer.
I asked her why anyone would pay for a room under those circumstances. She told me that full two way contact was OK and that the bouncers don't even check. "Well, what are we doing here? Let's go!"
One dance, decision made, and a great time was had by all.
If a dancer is not into it in first song,she lost 5 songs and regular customer.I usually take 5 dances if I like the girl.
If she does the same thing with others, how many dances she would have lost ( assuming average of 3 to 4 dances per customer per session) and regulars.
They don't get it.
Dancers on stripperweb advice not to give good dance in first song itself.That way they are losing lot of money.
If a guy only gets one song he is stupid and I don't want his business.
If that is true, refund the PL for your subpar first dance.
CAN YOU READ? I literally said, "my dances are never subpar." The first dance isn't going to be subpar and neither is the 20th. I won a trophy for "best lap dance" at a club I worked at years ago LOL.
You said your first song is worse than your others. That, my dear, makes it subpar by definition.
Then, by definition, it would be impossible for my one dance with one guy to be subpar because I wouldn't have given him any other dances to determine what is below or above par...
And what I said was that my dances get better as I go along.
In song 3, I verbally confront her, and ask if she is going to show her tits, she told me "my dances are slow and sensual, you need to wait until I am ready, just sit back and enjoy my performance". I stay quiet, to get my $s worth til the song ends because I've had strippers instantly get off me and demand $ for half a song (the last song) when I tell them to "stop" at next song. Arguing with them to finish the current song wont help since the argument is just eating time till the DJ's song finishes and then she can leave and still have the last laugh. Back to present, at 3-4 song mark, I tell her to stop, she has the balls to say "tips are appreciated", I tell her "what did you do to deserve a tip?" she responds "I'm not showing you my tits for $20, a gentlemen buys more songs than you cheap motherfucker". I give her $60 and learned my lesson.
If you dont take off your top, or don't let me pull out your tits out in song 1 when I see you are refusing to take off your top in song 1, its over at 1-2 mark you ROB.
SJG
If you got the girl next to you or on your lap, you can feed her respect money and find out how friendly she is willing to get with you. No need to pay the booth or back room tolls until much later.
SJG
Get her off-script tonight!
:)