Is it normal to like strip clubs?

I'm sure if it was free, a lot more people would like them.

Most of my college friends did not think highly of me wanting to go to strip clubs back then, nor in the years since. Even now, the people I work with think strip clubs are disgusting, in general, with a couple exceptions. I have since learned to keep that part of my life away from them. OTOH, some of them think I'm weird anyway, so they probably think it's appropriate I go to strip clubs.

I think it's weird to smoke weed and drink every day like most guys do ! For them to think strip clubs are weird makes them weird and they prob get drunk and smoke weed but that's not weird I guess ! Sad

It's normal if you like tits

I think many guys have not been to a good strip-club or had a good SC experience and in large-part why they may see them as a waste - I had a handful of SC visits in the 90s but didn't get the SC bug till I visited Baby Dolls Dallas in 2000

Probably not. I think people who like them, like our fine TUSCL community :-) are definitely outside the norm

Also seems there are some who believe they degrade women. I understand why they wouldn't appeal to many people, but to me they're a lot of fun

strip clubs are the best thing under the sun (and moon).

Homos

not everyone is willing to part money for a dance that leaves them with blue balls and no release. And masturbation is pretty boring.

Where else can we go and see a lot of young pretty ladies showing off their tits or shaking their ass?

@sharkhunter a night club full of molly and young women. Or a rock concert (big presentation rap concerts are also applicable)

Are they inerior decorators?

First, society looks down on men who feel they have to pay for a woman's attention. The incorrect assumption is that's the only way he can get it.

Second, some feel strip clubs are immoral or are degrading to women.

Third, Others feel it is "cheating" if you are in a relationship (I'm talking about just dances and looking at T&A, but that's doublely true if you're adding ITC extras or OTC pay 4 play on top of that.)

Fourth, others think a "show" is a waste of money and would prefer a brothel with a prostitute, not realizing that many strip clubs actually are thinly veiled brothels already.

In conclusion, is it normal to like strip clubs? In our society, I would say, no.

^ Great post

They are homosexual !

What's normal?

pretty girls. :)

I have some buddies who, per Dominic's points 2 & 3, have various ethical qualms with strip clubs.
I also have some buddies who match point 4 -- they think SCs are a waste of time & money vs AMPs & escorts

But I think the most common reason is: most guys go to a few strip clubs in their college and post college years, get hustled and ripped off and end up feeling badly about the experience -- and rightfully so. Most guys, by default, go to the all-style no-substance big corporate clubs that they've heard of through advertising; these end up being low-mileage, high-hustle clubs. My buddies and I bring new guys to the strip club with us all the time, and we always give them a little talk on the way up, starting with, "when you've been to strip clubs before, what's it been like?" Then we tell them, "well, your trip to the SC with us is going to be nothing like that". Once they've had their eyes opened by SCing with some hardcore PLs, they almost always want to come back.

Unless you're a homo like RickyBoy then, yep, it's normal.

Subra, great post as usual, your comments are always top notch.

Your main point (second paragraph) seems to line up with what Papi Chulo said

@Subraman

Ditto. Many men went to a name brand chain SC, got vague promises about a good time by strippers, got shouted at by bouncers through the whole LD https://imgflip.com/i/1a2twd , felt they wasted a ton of $ and got nothing. A hardcore PL will know to tell ugly strippers to leave, when to stop the $ loss on ROBs, and how to control the bill (no bottle service, low to no buying drinks for strippers or themselves), and negotiate with a stripper, and walk away if the stripper doesnt give the right answer.

Last week I counted 4 songs, the stripper claimed 7, I claimed 5 after hearing her say 7, we agreed on 6. No girl gets a tip in this SC, EVER, from me. If they want a tip they will just overcount songs and I negotiate down. Only a hardcore PL would negotiate over count like that.

Subra makes a good point. The "all style no substance" clubs are a great way to blow lots money with little in return. Part of the reason for this is(sort of having to do with the higher percentage of low mileage/high hustle) most of these clubs don't care whether you come back or not. They thrive on tourists and first timers and rich businessmen who all have little regard for money or how they spend it(tourists and out-of-towners justify it by telling themselves it's ok because it won't be a regular thing, first timers don't know any better and rich customers simply don't care). So naturally, a lot of people who don't sc often end up thinking strip clubs suck since that's all they know.

Normal doesn't exist. It's a concept that merchants and politicians created to manage risk in the investments their patrons make. People who are susceptible to normal and I don't always mix well, so what I do on my own time doesn't get discussed with them. Some people collect model trains and watch television as their hobbies. One of mine is an interest that I share with the folks who post here.

^yeah but I also have normal hobbies like video games, sports and porn. All "normal".

my hobbies used to be old cars, fast cars, coins, books and a whole lot of other material things. i am trying now to simplify my life. young beautiful females. the basic sexually attractive type.

Here's the thing, if you're a young guy, in theory you should be able to fuck a woman as hot as a stripper, at least those on the bottom half of the roster.

That said, I think most guys do enjoy going to the strip club, having a beer and seeing some titties. It's paying for lap dances that is more "controversial".

I think it is normal. After all, who doesn't like naked women? Whether some guys will admit to liking strip clubs, for fear of being judged, is another matter. But I doubt that it is normal to like them quite as much as many of us on this board do. But I long ago stopped worrying about what others may think is normal.

Its all about the money. Most guys are either too broke or cheap to give strip clubs a try. and then are some to which its just not there thing.

Butterman brings up a good point. I think the SC costs add up fast for a lot of guys. Although they probably like SCs, it may be hard to justify going much, especially for lower mileage. Even rickdugan has often called dances "worthless."

It's like football. I enjoy it, but no way I'm spending how ever much it is these days to watch it live.

Some guys may view strip clubs like a bad experience like anyone who watched an email infomercial video trying to get me to invest in a weekly stock service promising gains of doubling your money every week. I let the video play for what seemed like forever. In the end they said the service like that would typically cost 4995 but they would offer it for new subscribers for 50% off. I searched stock gumshoe and found it. Reviews said it was a good way to lose money and the service was crap. One guy was making money by buying puts on whatever the guy was recommending calls on. It did involve 5 day option contracts I believe. One guy got his money back with the 60 day guarantee.

I imagine a lot of guys may feel the same way about strip clubs. They visit. They get taken or burned and see little benefit. Turns them off from ever visiting again.

In a way, the email I get are like strippers trying to take advantage of me when they don't know I have experience. Make it sound like you are getting a great deal when the whole thing is not going to get you anything promised. The strippers that seem to be exception to the rule seem to be like call girls who succeeded in getting hired as dancers but if they find the right guy, think about a way to make extra money instead of just dancing. Then there are a few just plain crazy or horny dancers who don't fit any typical pattern. I haven't run into any of them for a few years. They always seem to know me from years ago.

I expect this will stop happening. No more crazy horny dancers.

If a dancer says she doesn't care about money, you almost know she has to be lying. I've heard that line a few times. The interesting thing is that they try to prove it. Talk for 30 minutes or so to convince me, not asking for anything for 30 minutes. 30 to 45 minutes is the record for a dancer not interested in money, haha. After that, it's wanna dance?

Think it's "normal" for guys to like strip club.

What may be deemed "not normal" is the frequency we visit.

For me in the past few years it's become a hobby in which I visit a handful of times a year (maybe 4-8 times per year) and think that has my friends who know about my hobby thinking I'm a bit odd. haha.

Great list, Dominic. Gotta slightly disagree on point #1, though. Most guys who frequent strip clubs alone, as opposed to occasionally patronizing them with friends, cannot get within 100 feet of a naked woman for free. Otherwise, wouldn't they be picking up girls from nightclubs or off of Tinder instead? I know I would. There's a reason we're called PL's.

No problem, LecherousMonk. I love your screen name, BTW!

most of my family and friends look down at me for going to strip clubs. they regard me a pathetic looser.

It's not whether you go it's why and how frequently you do. I tell my friends I go, both male and female and they either accept it or talk about what they think SCs are like. Never has it been an attack on me and it always ends up me framing it that they should come too.

I've taken friends, and mostly they just noted how I was much more into interacting with the girls and seemed to have much more rapport with them than they did.

I do agree with what a dancer told me though, "Using strip clubs for sexual gratification is perverted."

As I see it, strip clubs are for imbibing a sexual aesthetic, and then you try your best to manifest this in our outside life. And then some guys actually want to know strippers, be waking up in the mornings with them.

But otherwise it does not need to be a frequent pastime.

SJG

Not the least bit immoral or degrading (as @Dominic points out).

Often something wrong if guys under 35 are obsessed with strip clubs (as @James points out).

Becomes a sickness if paid relationships (of any kind) become a replacement for finding an SO or wife. Also a sickness if spending enough to put retirement savings in jeopardy.

"Becomes a sickness if paid relationships (of any kind) become a replacement for finding an SO or wife. Also a sickness if spending enough to put retirement savings in jeopardy.
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Agreed.

SJG