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JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Lots of women have messaged me. Apparently I was effective at subtly saying I have money in my profile. And as I go through the pictures there are lots of hot women that I'd love to fuck.
So what's the depressing part? The women that I want to fuck in the pictures are the daughters of the women messaging me. The actual women to date, unlike their daughters, are ugly, fat, and unattractive.
In order to find a woman I'd date, with very few exceptions, I've got to go back 15-20 years in age. There are quite a few cute ones in the 35-45 range but the ones whose ages start with 5 are mostly untouchable.
I'm not surprised by this obviously. But it's still depressing to flip thru page after page of ugly. At least a few of them included cleavage shots, and I appreciate their effort. And I kind of grudgingly respect some of the women who post a bunch of pics without trying to hide the fact that they are ugly. That can't be easy. But their write up should just say "I have a pussy" which would at least highlight their best selling feature.
So can a mid 50s guy realistically hope to date 35-45 year olds? If not I may just stick with my strippers.
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try sugardaddie.com - that's what you're looking for
Thanks for telling it like it is.
One of the things that gets me shaking my head is women who post pictures of themselves next to their gorgeous sexually-mature daughters. Even a well-put-together 43-year-old, who looks nice in a pic by herself, is going to look horrible next to her 19-year-old daughter. Deep down, I think these women know it, but they're so driven to show off their daughters, they don't care how bad it makes them look.
I think that most older women, given the chance, would prefer a much younger guy too. It's how we are all wired - we desire youth. No harm in admitting that.
I'm also thinking of posting a picture of myself with around 40-50 K in Benjamin's spread all around. I'm hoping that helps get the 35-45 yo ones interested.
Lopaw, I'm sure you're right. And I'm sure most guys my age are all over these women. But I'm fucking 5 strippers right now, all of whom are gorgeous and in their 20s. 4 of them are in their very early 20s. So this may be an impossible adjustment for me to make.
I think that most older women, given the chance, would prefer a much younger guy too. It's how we are all wired - we desire youth. No harm in admitting that. "
Lopaw, you're absolutely right, but here's two things to think about...
1. For some reason men have an unfair advantage because their 'money' can make a lot of women overlook what the men are lacking in the looks department. That is rare to work the other way around.
2. Most women do not age well, and many men do age well. Many women are more attracted to older men versus younger bucks.
I agree with your #1 assessment, tho as more women make their own money, it becomes less of a factor. But you will always have lazy women (and men) who want to leech off of someone else so that they don't have to actually make their own way in this world..
I strongly disagree with #2, tho. I haven't seen any evidence of that phenomenon. Of course beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but I think that the "aging well" issue is about even between the sexes, with no big advantage for men. Aging is as much about genetics as it is about environment, and plenty of older women take great care of themselves and look pretty good. Also- most of the older straight women that I talk to definitely prefer younger guys - the older man thing more plays on the fact that an older guy would likely have more money to spend on them than a young guy would. So they may date older guys, but if given the chance they'll jump into bed with a young stud in a heartbeat.
But JS69 brought up what is probably the biggest factor - once you drown yourself in a pool of 20-something hotties, how could anyone go back to an older lover? Damn near impossible.
Both parts of that are true. I do think men age a bit better than women -- something I wish was not true! And more importantly, I get as much attention from younger women now, as I did 15 years ago ... women just don't seem to care, and in some cases -- women with daddy issues, women looking for security -- age is barely an inhibitor, to a point.
More importantly, I haven't looked at many men's online profiles, but I'd bet anything most older men are smart enough not to stand next to their handsome young sons in their profile pics
Also remember the ugliest women have to be the most aggressive. The hotter ones can let guys message them.
if over 50+ then yah stick with fucking strippers 1/2 your age. less frustration and more happier at the end of the day. enjoying the experiences with a civvie imho is physiologically the equivalent of say eating a pint of your favorite ice cream.
This is true. There's a 50 year old ugly one that is really after me. She got all panicked that I wasn't into her when I didn't answer her email until later in the evening cause I'm on the west coast. She'd fuck me on the first date. I'm sure she would. But her looks? -- marginal at the very best. Not as ugly as some 50 year olds, average sized tits, not too fat. But overall, ugly. Not sure why I'm emailing with her. I guess a tiny part of me likes her lusting for me despite her looks. I don't know. You guys tell me, you're my psychotherapists.
But fuck these women? I just don't know if I can do it. Maybe if I close my eyes, imagine that she's the DS, and call out the name of the DS. Maybe. Do 50 yo women even give blow jobs?
"Just a suggestion, JS. Can you put a criterion like "prefers women 35 years old or under" in your profile?"
When you sign up you fill in what age you are looking for. Everybody who sees your profile can see what age range you're looking for (or if you can hide this, I haven't figured out how yet). I put down that I'm looking for 25-55 year olds. But that was too much. I'm going to change it to 35-55. I don't feel like I can put 35-50 cause I'm over 50.
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lol.
Half your age, plus seven. So for you that's early 30s for your cutoff.
Discussions like these make me really scared to get older than 29, I want to be hot forever!! lol
I seriously think they're are girls like me out there who are really attracted to older guys. I've been on dates with men as old as 60 that involved no money/gifts etc. (I've only recently decided to try sugaring) Depending on how a man holds himself there are super sexy things about older guys and I know I'm not the only girl my age that see it. But for me personality means so much...charm, intelligence, experience, manners, how he holds himself etc I usually get attracted personality first. Also, the more sexually comfortable a girl is the more she'll like older guys--my thing for older guys started out just because I think the idea of a young girl (that's me) pleasing an older gentlemen is just sexy.
"Why put-up with all the overhead of a civvy hookup – if you got the funds then stick to P4P and you can get what you want (looks-wise) with usually much-less overhead."
Papi, I can't answer that question because I don't know. I guess lots of people say I need to date. People on tuscl say that because they think I'm in love with my dream strippers. People not on tuscl say that too although they don't know about my strippers. So this is kind of an experiment to see whether I'm missing something. Also I do get tired of handing over money every time. So I want to see what it's like to fuck for "free."
I can't imagine civies ever replacing my strippers. I just want to see if maybe they would be a fun diversion to go with the strippers.
98 I'm in my early 50s although I think/hope I could pass for mid to late 40s.
I've been texting with a cutish mid 40s milf who is a red head. And she sought me out first. So I think I might try this with some women in their 40s. They look better although lots of them have younger kids which isn't my first choice. But I doubt seriously than I can find a 50s woman who turns me on.
Just go to where ever, and find women you like and try to hit on them.
They will be moved by the fact that you obviously like them and are not afraid to extend yourself. This is how it works.
Online dating is stupid!
Want to talk about good pickup venues? I mean besides of course just treating strippers like civilians.
SJG
You're a recent divorce and can be honest about that fact and you're not looking to get married again anytime soon. The ring hunters will take the hint, the DTF milfs will stick around.
And I am 50 and spent this evening with my 25 year old girl who reminds me of @anongirl98. She loves hanging out with me and fucks like a bunny. All with no P4P issues. I also had a smoking hot 45 year old in another city that involved some sugar and regardless of her age (most likely because of it) she provided by far the best sex of my life. And smoking hot to boot.
Just keep looking and having fun.