So she sat down next to you and she is sweet and cute, so you offer to buy her a drink. She says yes, but then she is called up to the stage, but she says she will gladly accept when she gets back. But once you see her onstage, you realize that she is bigger than you thought and you really don't want to do anything that makes her hang around.
I've been in that situation before, and I've used numerous solutions. The easiest is to invite an attractive dancer over for some lap dances while the chubber is on stage. When she gets off stage, she'll already know you've had dances, and you can tell her you're going to rest for a while.
My answer even confuses me. While I consider it almost my duty to lie to strippers..., if I were to offer a drink I would feel obligated to follow through. Good thing I never buy strippers drinks.
If a stripper asks me to buy her a drink (and I consider her worthy of my time and money) I ask her if she would rather have a $10 drink or a $5 tip. 90% opt for the tip. To the other 10% I tell them "Sorry"
Yes, I can be a cheap SOB sometimes. And yes, sometimes my SC philosophies contradict one another.
The last time I was at Jimmy's in Chicago Heights (about a month ago), an ebony beauty named Passion sat with me for a while and then asked me to buy her a drink. I was enjoying her company so I bought her a $10 drink, which she immediately took with her to the stage (she was up next), never to be seen again. One and done -- if she asks me for dances or a drink on my next visit, I will explain why she's not getting my business. Do you suppose strippers learn from experience?
I'm still trying to figure out how I didn't realize how big she was when she was sitting next to me, but realized it when she was on stage 20 feet away?
I would owe her the drink. I would talk to her for 10 minutes after stage, then cut her lose gracefully/politely. You don't really even owe her that much, but, IMO to do any less, is rude as fuck.
Yeah. Not sure how seeing a girl up close translates to realizing she's big only when she gets on stage like Lopaw said.
However, I've been in situations where a fugly latches on to you and won't let go/ can't take a hint.
Most times I've left and gone to another club. Not worth the time and money. And since my clubbing time is more and more less frequent it seems, my tolerance for girls not my type has gone way, way down.
I can see how leaving for another club could avoid dancer vs dancer drama. Assuming another quality club is close, it's one option. It depends on if there's enough talent in the club you are in or not.
You order a burger with mayo. You scrap off some of the mayo into your palm. When she comes back, hold up your hand and say "I really enjoy your stage show, look!"
If the club is with your time and effort to visit, it makes no sense to leave just because you're too shy to tell a fat woman you don't want to dance with her, especially if you are paying for the dance.
--> lopaw --> "I'm still trying to figure out how I didn't realize how big she was when she was sitting next to me, but realized it when she was on stage 20 feet away?"
I think we call that a moped.
At the bar she seems OK enough. It sort of private and no one else is looking. Ditto for the hotel room later. When she got on stage and everyone else was looking, that is a different matter. That's why big girls don't do well in SCs, IMO, but they do OK on webcam, for example. In the SC, everyone is judging your choice, then they get to see her walk back to the guy in the suit at the bar, then later they leave with each other (maybe).
See, a moped is fun to ride -- until your friends see you on one. ;-)
That's just one off-the-cuff explanation. But maybe I am off base here.
Rick, you already offered her a drink. Now man up and follow through. You don't have to offer a dance, but anything less than a drink at this point is just plain rude and hurtful.
@lopaw: She looked good from the front when she was crouched in her seat, but when she got up I got a good look at her ass and legs.
@Esta: I don't really give two fucks about her feelings, but I DID feel a sense of obligation after making the offer.
There was a happy ending to this story though. Fortunately another PL seemed to enjoy her stage routine more than I did, so when he tipped her on stage and I ignored her she followed the money. That was a time wasting bullet dodged. ;)
I think the usual case is "good from far, far from good", but once in a loooong while, particularly if I'm drunk, the reverse happens. I guess my reaction would depend pretty strongly on my mood, but as a general rule, my strip club philosophy is, "whether I'm attracted to a girl or not, there's almost no one who I can't enjoy having a drink and conversation with for 10 minutes". That philosophy has paid all sorts of dividends for me -- I've had girls I"m not interested in become super fun drinking partners, and subsequently an awesome source for club intel, for example; and there have been multiple times that I brought a buddy to the club, and HE liked her, and since I was on good terms with her already, it was child's play to have her come over and treat my buddy awesome. So, probably at least 75% of the time, I'd still get her that drink, talk to her for a while, then send her on her way... and if she were a fun person, I'd enjoy every minute of it.
Yeah; I'm sure there have been plenty of times when a dancer may look ok in her outfit but not so nude; especially if she approaches you w/o you noticing and you are only able to get a look at her from up-close (i.e. not a full-bod view).
I don't like dancers approaching me from behind and getting up-close to chat me up where I can't get a good full view of them.
“... Do you suppose strippers learn from experience ...”
I'd say some do and most don't – if they did they probably wouldn't be strippers :)
I use to black-ball strippers all the time for not doing me right; but I've learned not to expect much from them other than providing services – I've had dancers do me wrong on one visit and then do me very-right on another.
I've learned to let most-things slide (most but not all) – in the case of a dancer asking for a drink and then not spending time w/ me (she walked-on) has happened to me in the past particularly in dives.
You did mention she sat w/ you for a while; so one can look at it as the drink being compensation for her time – also; for w/e reason some dancers don't ask for dancers and assume if the custy does not ask them is that the custy is not interested – so it could have been that she thought you were not interested in anything more since you didn't bring it up while she was sitting w/ you?
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If a stripper asks me to buy her a drink (and I consider her worthy of my time and money) I ask her if she would rather have a $10 drink or a $5 tip. 90% opt for the tip. To the other 10% I tell them "Sorry"
Yes, I can be a cheap SOB sometimes. And yes, sometimes my SC philosophies contradict one another.
Or it may just be best to get cock-blocked by another dancer more of your taste; i.e. seek-out another dancer.
Yeah. Not sure how seeing a girl up close translates to realizing she's big only when she gets on stage like Lopaw said.
However, I've been in situations where a fugly latches on to you and won't let go/ can't take a hint.
Most times I've left and gone to another club. Not worth the time and money. And since my clubbing time is more and more less frequent it seems, my tolerance for girls not my type has gone way, way down.
I've done that before and it started a fight between the strippers. Not a good idea!
I think we call that a moped.
At the bar she seems OK enough. It sort of private and no one else is looking. Ditto for the hotel room later. When she got on stage and everyone else was looking, that is a different matter. That's why big girls don't do well in SCs, IMO, but they do OK on webcam, for example. In the SC, everyone is judging your choice, then they get to see her walk back to the guy in the suit at the bar, then later they leave with each other (maybe).
See, a moped is fun to ride -- until your friends see you on one. ;-)
That's just one off-the-cuff explanation. But maybe I am off base here.
Dancers have feelings, too.
@Esta: I don't really give two fucks about her feelings, but I DID feel a sense of obligation after making the offer.
There was a happy ending to this story though. Fortunately another PL seemed to enjoy her stage routine more than I did, so when he tipped her on stage and I ignored her she followed the money. That was a time wasting bullet dodged. ;)
Not impossible.
I don't like dancers approaching me from behind and getting up-close to chat me up where I can't get a good full view of them.
I'd say some do and most don't – if they did they probably wouldn't be strippers :)
I use to black-ball strippers all the time for not doing me right; but I've learned not to expect much from them other than providing services – I've had dancers do me wrong on one visit and then do me very-right on another.
I've learned to let most-things slide (most but not all) – in the case of a dancer asking for a drink and then not spending time w/ me (she walked-on) has happened to me in the past particularly in dives.
You did mention she sat w/ you for a while; so one can look at it as the drink being compensation for her time – also; for w/e reason some dancers don't ask for dancers and assume if the custy does not ask them is that the custy is not interested – so it could have been that she thought you were not interested in anything more since you didn't bring it up while she was sitting w/ you?