An indecent proposal
gawker
Older than dirt
I've been lusting after a dancer for a month or so. Her private dances are erotic, lust inspiring, and totally enjoyable. But she carefully and skillfully avoids extras and yet the vibes are there that there's always more to come. I pressed things and have made it clear that I want and need more. She responded that for $2000 she'd be mine for 24 hours and ANYTHING I want can be had. I've never had an offer of this nature and I'm fascinated with the idea. She's clearly a 9.5 23 year old beauty. Your thoughts and suggestions?
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I would try to get a cheaper “date” w/ the understanding you’d be up for the $2k shebang after a “test-drive” of sorts – but; YOLO; and $2k is not the end of the world although I personally hate getting ripped-off even for $5.
Personally i would do it Gawker
Fuck. Shower. Take her to dinner. Fuck through the night. Get some sleep. Wake up an fuck again. Shower. Take her to breakfast. Go for a stroll or watch a movie. Get lunch. Fuck again. Good bye.
I would then stop going to strip clubs for a month to "recoup" the money spent on such an indulgence
I would try a counter proposal. How about $1,000 for 12 hours? We are too old to fuck for 24 hours so What's the point. Or $500 for 6. You also might seek a volume discount -- agree to see her every week for significantly less money. Also implicitly threatening to withdraw your itc money might help.
If you are patient and can't talk her down then add conditions so you get more for your money. For example, you get to take pics or video it.
I would go for it and pay $2K if you can't talk her down. But I would understand that it's only going to happen once or twice at that price. You would regret not trying her out.
Treat her well, make sure she cums, be the kind of customer that is the least unpleasant to fuck. Then after a couple of sessions at $2K tell her that you'd love to continue but the price must come down. Good chance she won't do it but she might if she feels comfortable with you and is not in the mood to try out new customers.
Now everybody else can tell us how they fuck girls just as hot as yours for $100.
That's effing hilarious.
Gawker, if you follow thru, we want a JS69-style report.
I'm sure you've had this happen... because it's happened to me... I'm getting a BJ for $100 in a club, and I mention to the stripper, "how much more for full service?" thinking she would say "$200" but then she spurts out something insane like "$800," to me, that's her way of saying "eh I really don't want to do that."
It's your money and do what you wish with it, but I'm you're big heat ATM saying "think of all the other girls you could bang with $2,000," but I know, right now she's like your holy grail and I understand that.
Like JS69 mentioned 24 hours is a long time. I remember the first time I spent 24 hours with my retired ATF and we were just trying to find stuff to do just to kill time. We didn't know each other that well yet and there's only so many hours you can fill up with having sex, eating and sleeping so that still leaves a lot of time in those 24 hours to kill.
I think I would tell her (if I were you) "you know, eventually your proposal sounds great, but it's hard for me to set aside 24 of my time, plus I really don't know you that well yet. I would like to offer $500 for 2 hours of your time, and if we get along well, you'll be making a lot more than $2,000 off of me in the long run.
+ are either not comfortable w/ OTC and will just do it for a very-good payday (and even then if she’s not comfortable w/ it; it may not be very good)
+ or are insanely hot and they know it but I think to pay $1k or more she better be in the 1 or 2% hots-wise
Pricing: I've been paying $500 an hour to my ATF for years. My problem is even with chemical enhancement more than once a day is a stretch. I'm 70 years old and while I have great staying power it takes a long time to recover. I've been getting 8 to 10 dances with her and have done 1/2 hour vip's and she sure holds my attention. The photography is a good suggestion and I expect we'd be at her apartment.
She's going to call me in the morning to discuss details ( one non-negotiable for me is bareback) and I think we can come to agreement.
Who knows, she might do $1000 for 2 hours. If she's on the fence, bareback might be a problem though.
Split the cost between 4 TUSCLers. Each one gets 6 hours with her for $500. I don't mind taking the graveyard shift.
Assuming this isn't a ploy to avoid P4P by naming an outrageous figure, then you should be able to negotiate a smaller time frame with a much more reasonable cost.
2K is ridiculous to throw away on the unknown. Unless you have so much money it doesn't matter but then you shouldn't be asking.
Of course the hourly rate is really irrelevant. You should probably base your decision on the number of orgasms that you might expect during a 24 hour date or the amount of time that you'd be actively engaged in some sex play during 24 hours. Even as a younger man, my limit was probably 5 orgasms within 24 hours.
Don't do it! Even if you don't care about the price, think of your fellow TUSCLers. Don't jack up the price we have to pay these whores.
Gawker you're like my strip club twin ( except for the heroin part). I will send you a pm to explain my successful strategy to get DS II bareback.
And so, a great GFE will come to an end....
If I was open to OTC, I would charge at least 2k to spend a night with me, def not 24 hours. Look up prices for overnight at elite escort sites - her 2000$ is a bargain. Go for it!:)
If things were a bit different -- if you at least had some experience that she does extras and know she's awesome, for example -- I might dismiss this with "well, if gawker wants to have a one-time indulgence, a 24-hour soiree with a chick he thinks is hot and knows delivers, knowing he's overpaying but just wants to light things up", then I'd say to carry on, going in with eyes open. B this is a chick who "carefully and skillfully avoids extras", and plays you like a fiddle ("the vibes are there that there's more to come")? Paying top-top-top-end price for a girl who has delivered nothing? To me, newbie-level little-head-doing-my-thinking bad idea.
I suspect the $2K/day vs $500/hr is a conscious barrier she's putting up. After all, $500/hr would be in her financial interest. Either she isn't thinking or just doesn't want to do it.
"one non-negotiable for me is bareback"
Seems non-brilliant to eschew the condom, but it's your life! Whatever floats your boat! Or (potentially) makes it burn when you piss! ;)
It would be interesting to see how she reacts to that, or even to 12 2hr sessions. See if the math suddenly dawns on her and she sees that she's actually. Asking $80/hr.
Why not? Because he's only known her a month. Because in that month, she's refused to do any extras. Because she's been playing him like a fiddle, giving him the impression that more is possible without ever delivering. Because she's quoted an outrageous, call-my-bluff price. Because we know that when women quote call-my-bluff prices, especially one who has never delivered anything, there's every reason to think she won't deliver with the hoped-for enthusiasm. Because gawker says that even with chemical enhancement, popping more than once is a stretch.
The entire fucking thing doesn't make sense, with the only explanation being, gawker's being led by his little head (hey, happens to the best of us!)
Again, even though I think $2000 is shockingly high, I can also see the "hey, he's got the money, and he's earned himself an indulgence -- so, he's got a 9.5 who is proven to slam-dunk deliver, and we do expect older guys to have to pay a bit more, so why not?". But that's not this scenario, this feels like $2k potentially thrown away. If I were gonna spend $2k, I'd rather spend it on someone who I have a little more reason to believe will really deliver the way I want it
As for whether or not this was a serious offer, Gawker is the only one in a position to really judge that. But if she is very hot, then $2K is not the outrageous sort of offer that means no. I've had many $1-5K offers that I was convinced at the time we're completely genuine. And I've very seriously considered a few of them, and made counter offers.
These are high end prostitutes who only want to fuck a very limited select group of customers. Each case is different but generally speaking if the girl is really hot I view $10K and up as fuck you offers. Anything less could potentially be legit. Girls like this know that 90% of the responses will be no, but the 10% pay so much that it works. The girl has got to be extraordinarily beautiful for this to work however.
She would have to prove to me that her idea of "anything goes" is the same as mine. Plus, shit, 24 hours with anyone gets old unless there is travel involved. How much of that 24 is traveling. Way too many ways for this to go south to risk that kind of cash to start.
Still, if a 9.5 would come thru with 24 hours of pure anything goes GFE, it would be worth it and I would be willing to pay it.
This is at a club where I've been a regular for 6 or 7 years and it's no secret that customers are evaluated by the dancers. I've got a pretty good rep at this club as a spender and a sucker (well cultivated and earned). I'd be a fool to think she hasn't checked me out with others. I recently looked around the club and counted 7 dancers who were working who have blown me.
This new spinner is hot in everyone's estimation. She first and foremost is a good dancer on stage, good rhythm, good choreography, good instincts for how far to go to keep customers in awe. Recently she followed a dancer who has been at it for awhile, who is an attractive blonde, a little thick, but still lithe. The blonde did some pole work, got naked, did a headstand in my lap, and asked if she could , "tickle my pickle" as she ran her fingers over my crotch. Then the object of my affection came out. She had an extreme costume with a matching yo-yo which she integrated into her dance. Then some minor pole work and then did a full real strip tease with emphasis on tease. She was classy as opposed to trampy with the preceding dancer. When we then went for lap dances she slowly unbuttoned my shirt as she got naked and then started licking my chest, kissing, then sucking on my nipple. She spread my shirt and pressed her breasts against my chest. Her touching, stroking and kissing & licking were so erotic that I feel as if I really need to get closer to this beautiful woman. I'm quite sure she's mixed race with the best characteristics of whatever went into this mix.
Does she have a boyfriend? She could think of several excuses at the last minute or have someone call that night you start and claim a family emergency or who knows what? company come over to visit? a 24 hour offer for that price seems like an outrageous price to me if I hadn't read all of the above comments first. I don't want to spend 24 hours together even with friends. Was she making a serious offer? Does any escort offer 24 hours?
If I had never gotten any extras from her or even met up with her OTC before, I've have a million red flags. Of course if you have 2k you don't mind throwing away and possibly not getting what you want due to any number of reasons, then it's up to you.
And I am gorgeous skinny 20-year old. So why not.:)
I already was looking for agencies when I run into this topic. 24 hours with a model from elite escort agency in Manhattan would run gawker 5 figures. Hence I was surprised to read guys' posts claiming that it's too expensive.
1200-1500$ is simply for an hour in VIP+tip for host and waitress+bottle of champagne. And trust me, strippers will charge him for extras on top of that. 400-600$ is a standard pay-out for room but house fees/tip outs are 200$, at least+mandatory tip to host+10% in funny money and minus 30% in taxes.