An indecent proposal

gawker
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I've been lusting after a dancer for a month or so. Her private dances are erotic, lust inspiring, and totally enjoyable. But she carefully and skillfully avoids extras and yet the vibes are there that there's always more to come. I pressed things and have made it clear that I want and need more. She responded that for $2000 she'd be mine for 24 hours and ANYTHING I want can be had. I've never had an offer of this nature and I'm fascinated with the idea. She's clearly a 9.5 23 year old beauty. Your thoughts and suggestions?

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mikeya02
9 years ago
Well, you found out she's not a cheap whore. Her price is normal for *high class escorts* I don't think there's much advice to give on what you want. I probably would give it a thought
Clackport
9 years ago
$2,000 is too much, see if she'll come down to $1,000.
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
I don’t mind spending $$$ to get “good service” – but I also try to be prudent and for me paying 2-grand based on what “the dancer states or promises” is not prudent and too big a gamble – not saying it would not be great; but you may not end up getting what she promised.

I would try to get a cheaper “date” w/ the understanding you’d be up for the $2k shebang after a “test-drive” of sorts – but; YOLO; and $2k is not the end of the world although I personally hate getting ripped-off even for $5.
72_os
9 years ago
$2000 is actually a good price for 24 hours of sex and cuddling it breaks down to a lil over $100 an hour

Personally i would do it Gawker
Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
9 years ago
I guess it ain't trickin' if you got it like that.
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
If the chemistry is not there 1 hour may prove to be too long let alone 24
Bavarian
9 years ago
I would go for it.

Fuck. Shower. Take her to dinner. Fuck through the night. Get some sleep. Wake up an fuck again. Shower. Take her to breakfast. Go for a stroll or watch a movie. Get lunch. Fuck again. Good bye.

I would then stop going to strip clubs for a month to "recoup" the money spent on such an indulgence
JohnSmith69
9 years ago
You're getting into some serious DS level pricing there. Actually this is considerably more than I ever paid the DS.

I would try a counter proposal. How about $1,000 for 12 hours? We are too old to fuck for 24 hours so What's the point. Or $500 for 6. You also might seek a volume discount -- agree to see her every week for significantly less money. Also implicitly threatening to withdraw your itc money might help.

If you are patient and can't talk her down then add conditions so you get more for your money. For example, you get to take pics or video it.

I would go for it and pay $2K if you can't talk her down. But I would understand that it's only going to happen once or twice at that price. You would regret not trying her out.

Treat her well, make sure she cums, be the kind of customer that is the least unpleasant to fuck. Then after a couple of sessions at $2K tell her that you'd love to continue but the price must come down. Good chance she won't do it but she might if she feels comfortable with you and is not in the mood to try out new customers.

Now everybody else can tell us how they fuck girls just as hot as yours for $100.
DivorcedDude
9 years ago
$2,000 divided by 4 is $500 for every 6 hours. I would see if she'll do 6 hours for $500. She probably won't, but that seems like a much better deal. Why pay her over $500 for the hours you'll be sleeping overnight, after being exhausted?
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
Ask her if she has group-discounts and we can then split the cost
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
$500 for 6 hours I don’t think is a good offer she will accept if she’s hot and thinks she’s in the $2k range – most good-looking chicks IMO would charge $500/hr not per 6 – but anything is possible (plus a hot dancer can make $500 or more ITC and even w/o fucking if she's hot enough)
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
Now that I’ve looked at this thread a couple of times; yeah; a $2k charge *is* pretty indecent
DivorcedDude
9 years ago
"Ask her if she has group-discounts and we can then split the cost"

That's effing hilarious.
Bavarian
9 years ago
Agree with Papi. That math does not work for these kinds of situations. A honey can make up to $1000 ITC. $2000 is the magical number for a hot dancer to see you OTC. My CF said if she were to do OTC, it would be all day for 2 grand and no sex. So you're getting a good deal.

Gawker, if you follow thru, we want a JS69-style report.
shailynn
9 years ago
I think she doesn't want to do OTC with you, she just threw that out there because either she figured you wouldn't accept the offer or if you did, it would finally make it worth her effort.

I'm sure you've had this happen... because it's happened to me... I'm getting a BJ for $100 in a club, and I mention to the stripper, "how much more for full service?" thinking she would say "$200" but then she spurts out something insane like "$800," to me, that's her way of saying "eh I really don't want to do that."

It's your money and do what you wish with it, but I'm you're big heat ATM saying "think of all the other girls you could bang with $2,000," but I know, right now she's like your holy grail and I understand that.

Like JS69 mentioned 24 hours is a long time. I remember the first time I spent 24 hours with my retired ATF and we were just trying to find stuff to do just to kill time. We didn't know each other that well yet and there's only so many hours you can fill up with having sex, eating and sleeping so that still leaves a lot of time in those 24 hours to kill.

I think I would tell her (if I were you) "you know, eventually your proposal sounds great, but it's hard for me to set aside 24 of my time, plus I really don't know you that well yet. I would like to offer $500 for 2 hours of your time, and if we get along well, you'll be making a lot more than $2,000 off of me in the long run.
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
Bavarian - $2k OTCs are not the norm – usually b/w the range of $200 and $500 I would say – dancers asking $1k and above IMO:

+ are either not comfortable w/ OTC and will just do it for a very-good payday (and even then if she’s not comfortable w/ it; it may not be very good)

+ or are insanely hot and they know it but I think to pay $1k or more she better be in the 1 or 2% hots-wise
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
^ *and* be willing to fuck and suck
gawker
9 years ago
Wasn't "An Indecent Proposal" a movie where ROBERT Redford offers a million dollars to spend the night with a newlywed in Vegas?
Pricing: I've been paying $500 an hour to my ATF for years. My problem is even with chemical enhancement more than once a day is a stretch. I'm 70 years old and while I have great staying power it takes a long time to recover. I've been getting 8 to 10 dances with her and have done 1/2 hour vip's and she sure holds my attention. The photography is a good suggestion and I expect we'd be at her apartment.
She's going to call me in the morning to discuss details ( one non-negotiable for me is bareback) and I think we can come to agreement.
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
I’m not too sure a very hot chick would to bareback with a custy she does not know very well – but maybe you have a plan (offer test-results as to the pristine state of your penis)
shailynn
9 years ago
cmon gawker has only done heroin, there's nothing to worry about when it comes to bareback! he once took a sip of my beer and I haven't died yet!
Bavarian
9 years ago
In that case, tell her that you can only shoot one load a day so 24 hours is pointless. I doubt you want to DATY her for 24 hrs. Your tongue will get tired, lol.

Who knows, she might do $1000 for 2 hours. If she's on the fence, bareback might be a problem though.
Bavarian
9 years ago
I like Papi's idea, lol.
Split the cost between 4 TUSCLers. Each one gets 6 hours with her for $500. I don't mind taking the graveyard shift.
Westcoastclubber
9 years ago
Too much.

Assuming this isn't a ploy to avoid P4P by naming an outrageous figure, then you should be able to negotiate a smaller time frame with a much more reasonable cost.

2K is ridiculous to throw away on the unknown. Unless you have so much money it doesn't matter but then you shouldn't be asking.
PhantomGeek
9 years ago
Two grand for 24 hours? Yikes! That's a lot, even for ANYTHING you want, especially for such an unknown and untested commodity. Have you tested her counter-proposal by saying something a bit more over the top, like you want to get a hundred of your best online pals (who you've never met before) lined up for that party?
shadowcat
9 years ago
Coming from another 70+ yo. I think you answered your own question. What is she going to do for the other 23 hours? Watch you sleep? I've done a few 5-6 hour gigs and that is long enough.
Electronman
9 years ago
Tell her that $2000 for 24 hours calculates to an hourly rate of $83.33 and that you'll pay double her hourly rate but for only one hour.

Of course the hourly rate is really irrelevant. You should probably base your decision on the number of orgasms that you might expect during a 24 hour date or the amount of time that you'd be actively engaged in some sex play during 24 hours. Even as a younger man, my limit was probably 5 orgasms within 24 hours.
jackslash
9 years ago
$2000? Is her pussy made of gold?

Don't do it! Even if you don't care about the price, think of your fellow TUSCLers. Don't jack up the price we have to pay these whores.
Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
9 years ago
Jackslash is absolutely right.
JohnSmith69
9 years ago
I hung out with the DS for 24 hours all the time. And I'm moving towards that with DS II. But it takes a while to reach the point where both parties are comfortable with that level of involvement.
JohnSmith69
9 years ago
"one non-negotiable for me is bareback"

Gawker you're like my strip club twin ( except for the heroin part). I will send you a pm to explain my successful strategy to get DS II bareback.
rockstar666
9 years ago
For $2k I'd want BB and I'd even produce a clean blood test. Pass...besides, at that price you are WAY more in to her than she is in to you, and that might become difficult for you.
ATACdawg
9 years ago
I think all of you guys are missing the point of a 24-hr GFE here, blinded as you are by the concept of sex and debauchery! After his initial session(s) asked can doze off, free to know that his honey will stay up all night because of his snoring. After wake-up sex the next morning gawker can either go back to sleep or have her wash his balls in the shower. Then she can make him breakfast while he takes out the trash and does the dishes after. Now things will really get good. She will tell him, lovingly, to vacuum the floors and wash the sheets before she'll "crawl back in there again" and, by the way, she'll take a tunafish sammie for lunch. After lunch, of course, she'll need a well-earned nap, which, if it's Saturday, she will take in front of the TV watching a sappy chick flick instead of a manly college football game. After she has emptied yor fridge of beer it will be time for you to either make her supper or maybe get sushi or a selection of Chinese dishes delivered. Then, it will be time for.....oops. "Time's up. I had a great time! That will be $2000 please."

And so, a great GFE will come to an end....
gawker
9 years ago
Quote:" your most lustful desires would be mine to fulfill"
Dancer_
9 years ago
You are getting a good deal, actually.
If I was open to OTC, I would charge at least 2k to spend a night with me, def not 24 hours. Look up prices for overnight at elite escort sites - her 2000$ is a bargain. Go for it!:)
Subraman
9 years ago
Damn, I thought the place would erupt in a riot as soon as you said "$2000". I think that price is abso-fucking-lutely insane, and think shailynn is most likely right: that's a "I don't fucking want to do this, but I'll name a price that's high enough that I'll be able to drag myself through" price... which doesn't bode well for the quality of the experience. The girl hasn't even provided extras at all. To me, this is all a RED BLINKING STOPLIGHT, that you're missing because your little head has taken over the helm.

If things were a bit different -- if you at least had some experience that she does extras and know she's awesome, for example -- I might dismiss this with "well, if gawker wants to have a one-time indulgence, a 24-hour soiree with a chick he thinks is hot and knows delivers, knowing he's overpaying but just wants to light things up", then I'd say to carry on, going in with eyes open. B this is a chick who "carefully and skillfully avoids extras", and plays you like a fiddle ("the vibes are there that there's more to come")? Paying top-top-top-end price for a girl who has delivered nothing? To me, newbie-level little-head-doing-my-thinking bad idea.
4got2wipe
9 years ago
If you have $2K available to spend why not? As some have pointed out it isn't much on an hourly basis (a bit over $80!). She could (presumably) make more ($500? - if you're considering $2K why not?)

I suspect the $2K/day vs $500/hr is a conscious barrier she's putting up. After all, $500/hr would be in her financial interest. Either she isn't thinking or just doesn't want to do it.

"one non-negotiable for me is bareback"

Seems non-brilliant to eschew the condom, but it's your life! Whatever floats your boat! Or (potentially) makes it burn when you piss! ;)
chandler
9 years ago
Tell her it's a deal, as long as you can have her in 24 one-hour sessions.
4got2wipe
9 years ago
"Tell her it's a deal, as long as you can have her in 24 one-hour sessions."

It would be interesting to see how she reacts to that, or even to 12 2hr sessions. See if the math suddenly dawns on her and she sees that she's actually. Asking $80/hr.
Subraman
9 years ago
4got2wipe---> " If you have $2K available to spend why not?"

Why not? Because he's only known her a month. Because in that month, she's refused to do any extras. Because she's been playing him like a fiddle, giving him the impression that more is possible without ever delivering. Because she's quoted an outrageous, call-my-bluff price. Because we know that when women quote call-my-bluff prices, especially one who has never delivered anything, there's every reason to think she won't deliver with the hoped-for enthusiasm. Because gawker says that even with chemical enhancement, popping more than once is a stretch.

The entire fucking thing doesn't make sense, with the only explanation being, gawker's being led by his little head (hey, happens to the best of us!)

Again, even though I think $2000 is shockingly high, I can also see the "hey, he's got the money, and he's earned himself an indulgence -- so, he's got a 9.5 who is proven to slam-dunk deliver, and we do expect older guys to have to pay a bit more, so why not?". But that's not this scenario, this feels like $2k potentially thrown away. If I were gonna spend $2k, I'd rather spend it on someone who I have a little more reason to believe will really deliver the way I want it
Subraman
9 years ago
Anyway, happy -- THRILLED -- to eat my words if I'm wrong, totally want gawker to have his good time. But right now, my prediction would be: once she sees he's going to call her bluff on her call-my-bluff price quote, she'll find other dealkillers ... can't go bareback, can't swallow, whatever...
shadowcat
9 years ago
Subraman - I take issue with you statement that older guys have to pay a bit more. I'm getting close to 74 and I pay a lot less than JS69 and certainly no more than most guys.
twentyfive
9 years ago
This thread is becoming the comments section for Donald Trump's The Art Of The Deal
JohnSmith69
9 years ago
Older men don't pay more. To the contrary, there are benefits of older men to a dancer. Maturity, experience, and a diminished ability to fuck multiple times. But bareback does definitely cost more. Sometimes a lot more.

As for whether or not this was a serious offer, Gawker is the only one in a position to really judge that. But if she is very hot, then $2K is not the outrageous sort of offer that means no. I've had many $1-5K offers that I was convinced at the time we're completely genuine. And I've very seriously considered a few of them, and made counter offers.

These are high end prostitutes who only want to fuck a very limited select group of customers. Each case is different but generally speaking if the girl is really hot I view $10K and up as fuck you offers. Anything less could potentially be legit. Girls like this know that 90% of the responses will be no, but the 10% pay so much that it works. The girl has got to be extraordinarily beautiful for this to work however.
shailynn
9 years ago
Hey look at it this way - $2k for 24 hours of sex. 4got2wipe paid over $500 and didn't even get a kiss and that was only 30 minutes - this girl is giving you a bargain!!!!
Lone_Wolf
9 years ago
Way too risky for me. Maybe if we had a proven history of mind blowing GFE but even than it would unlikely.

She would have to prove to me that her idea of "anything goes" is the same as mine. Plus, shit, 24 hours with anyone gets old unless there is travel involved. How much of that 24 is traveling. Way too many ways for this to go south to risk that kind of cash to start.

Still, if a 9.5 would come thru with 24 hours of pure anything goes GFE, it would be worth it and I would be willing to pay it.
alabegonz
9 years ago
2000 is a lot of money. I'd think this over like what else can do besides fucking the girl. If I can't think of anything worth doing, then she can have my money.
gawker
9 years ago
When I said there were no extras I left out the first VIP I did with her, shortly after she started dancing. Before going for VIP I negotiated asking for a BJ. She declined but countered for a HJ which I agreed to. During our 1/2 hour I slid down on the couch and picked her ass up for a little DATY. What a glorious sweet pussy! She responded by squeezing my head between her thighs and cumming. She got very wet and backed away, saying, "I don't do that!" But clearly got off.
This is at a club where I've been a regular for 6 or 7 years and it's no secret that customers are evaluated by the dancers. I've got a pretty good rep at this club as a spender and a sucker (well cultivated and earned). I'd be a fool to think she hasn't checked me out with others. I recently looked around the club and counted 7 dancers who were working who have blown me.
This new spinner is hot in everyone's estimation. She first and foremost is a good dancer on stage, good rhythm, good choreography, good instincts for how far to go to keep customers in awe. Recently she followed a dancer who has been at it for awhile, who is an attractive blonde, a little thick, but still lithe. The blonde did some pole work, got naked, did a headstand in my lap, and asked if she could , "tickle my pickle" as she ran her fingers over my crotch. Then the object of my affection came out. She had an extreme costume with a matching yo-yo which she integrated into her dance. Then some minor pole work and then did a full real strip tease with emphasis on tease. She was classy as opposed to trampy with the preceding dancer. When we then went for lap dances she slowly unbuttoned my shirt as she got naked and then started licking my chest, kissing, then sucking on my nipple. She spread my shirt and pressed her breasts against my chest. Her touching, stroking and kissing & licking were so erotic that I feel as if I really need to get closer to this beautiful woman. I'm quite sure she's mixed race with the best characteristics of whatever went into this mix.
Papi_Chulo
9 years ago
^ IDK – she kinda sounds like a tease – I'd think you'd have better chances for deliverance with an unashamed tramp vs a polester/”romantic” - but not saying I'm right – just my 1-cent
Dancer_
9 years ago
I started escorting and met my first client today. He paid 2300$ for 2 hours with me. I am not just lowkey bragging, lol, but telling you to go for her, again, it's a bargain. Do it before someone else steals her! :)
sharkhunter
9 years ago
My initial thought was that she wasn't serious. Does she know what escorts charge or was she serious or thought you would take the offer seriously? If she thought the price was so high that you'd pass, then she might not want to go through with it but might take the money. Her plan might then become to do the minimum to satisfy you..
Does she have a boyfriend? She could think of several excuses at the last minute or have someone call that night you start and claim a family emergency or who knows what? company come over to visit? a 24 hour offer for that price seems like an outrageous price to me if I hadn't read all of the above comments first. I don't want to spend 24 hours together even with friends. Was she making a serious offer? Does any escort offer 24 hours?
If I had never gotten any extras from her or even met up with her OTC before, I've have a million red flags. Of course if you have 2k you don't mind throwing away and possibly not getting what you want due to any number of reasons, then it's up to you.
Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
9 years ago
Damn, women got it easy. Too easy lol. It take me almost a month to make $2500 by way of physical back-breaking labor and they can make that same amount in a matter of two hours or less by just chatting, flirting, and laying in the bed with minimal effort.

JohnSmith69
9 years ago
95, are you serious? That's way beyond even DS level pricing.
Dancer_
9 years ago
Yes, John, absolutely. Of course, with rates like that I won't get booked every day. However, I already have my second appointment on the next week with another client and its 5 hours, yay. It's very upscale agency that screens the shit out of potential clients. It's New York, after all, with tons of lawyers, doctors, wall-street dudes, traveling businessmen,etc who can afford it. When I was googling agencies, I saw plenty with 4-figure rates.

And I am gorgeous skinny 20-year old. So why not.:)

I already was looking for agencies when I run into this topic. 24 hours with a model from elite escort agency in Manhattan would run gawker 5 figures. Hence I was surprised to read guys' posts claiming that it's too expensive.
Dancer_
9 years ago
And to think about it, he actually got a deal by booking me instead of going to any Manhattan's strip club for extras.

1200-1500$ is simply for an hour in VIP+tip for host and waitress+bottle of champagne. And trust me, strippers will charge him for extras on top of that. 400-600$ is a standard pay-out for room but house fees/tip outs are 200$, at least+mandatory tip to host+10% in funny money and minus 30% in taxes.
PhantomGeek
9 years ago
$2300 for just two hours? Damn, D95. I was going to wave "Hi" from halfway across the continent, but that'd probably cost me $50 minimum.
seaboardrr
9 years ago
The prices being thrown around are ludicrious. I know there are plenty of people making that much an hour so blowing it on some arm candy or a quick fuck is easy to do without thinking twice but the people who can drop that kind of coin are the same people who can write it off as a business entertainment expense or something of the sort. It'd show up as a "consulting" fee on the books.
JohnSmith69
9 years ago
95, do you offer a tuscl discount? Or surely you have a half price day for lawyers?
Dancer_
9 years ago
Oh John, John. As you know, I have already been fucked over by lawyer, so now I don't trust any of you guys, lol.
Dancer_
9 years ago
And yeah, I agree that it is a high price. But if I am gonna be a ho, then I better make sure that compensation is worth it.
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