The ultimate pity hustle
rickdugan
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Two minutes into my conversation with a dancer last night, she started to tear up when she told me that she wouldn't be able to have the birthday party for her 6 year old today. Apparently she was having a horrible night and things were shitty for her all week, so she was broke. The melodrama continued with her sobbing and asking how would she be able to break this to her kid, who was supposedly very excited about her upcoming party. No consolation that I offered made her feel better, including telling her that she still had 2 1/2 hours in the night, that the important thing is that the kid had food in her belly and a roof over her head or that kids are resilient and a decent excuse can hold her off for a while.
So, seeing that she was inconsolable, I did what any good guy would do. I offered her an earning opportunity. ;)
A short while later, she experienced another bout of anguish over the fact that she was going to have to fuck a stranger to earn money for her kid's birthday. I became a little irritated and told her to forget it, giving her a consolation $20 for her time. She immediately did a 180 and made sure I knew that she really wanted to do it and then put a smile on her face, though you could see that she was a little torn. I was still a little irked and made it clear that I had no interest in a reluctant partner and she continued to assure me of her willingness to do the deed.
Well, she certainly did do the deed and quite well I might add. Thank goodness she wasn't crying during the event, lol. After the fact, she seemed to be very concerned about what I thought of her. I made sure to let her know that I respected her for doing what was necessary to help her kid and that she's a good mother. I have a little "you were a lioness for your child" spiel that I trot out for these occasions and it often seems to make them feel better. :)
I expect to see her again. Hopefully things will start off more pleasant the next time.
So, seeing that she was inconsolable, I did what any good guy would do. I offered her an earning opportunity. ;)
A short while later, she experienced another bout of anguish over the fact that she was going to have to fuck a stranger to earn money for her kid's birthday. I became a little irritated and told her to forget it, giving her a consolation $20 for her time. She immediately did a 180 and made sure I knew that she really wanted to do it and then put a smile on her face, though you could see that she was a little torn. I was still a little irked and made it clear that I had no interest in a reluctant partner and she continued to assure me of her willingness to do the deed.
Well, she certainly did do the deed and quite well I might add. Thank goodness she wasn't crying during the event, lol. After the fact, she seemed to be very concerned about what I thought of her. I made sure to let her know that I respected her for doing what was necessary to help her kid and that she's a good mother. I have a little "you were a lioness for your child" spiel that I trot out for these occasions and it often seems to make them feel better. :)
I expect to see her again. Hopefully things will start off more pleasant the next time.
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Case in point:
"A short while later, she experienced another bout of anguish over the fact that she was going to have to fuck a stranger to earn money for her kid's birthday. I became a little irritated and told her to forget it, giving her a consolation $20 for her time. She immediately did a 180 and made sure I knew that she really wanted to do it and then put a smile on her face, though you could see that she was a little torn."
WTF? I suspect she probably fucks strangers all the time and was just a little turned of by the guy fantasizing about popping her "OTC cherry"!
"I made sure to let her know that I respected her for doing what was necessary to help her kid and that she's a good mother. I have a little "you were a lioness for your child" spiel that I trot out for these occasions and it often seems to make them feel better. :)"
Does anybody else find this a bit creepy?
I'm a pretty positive guy and I don't like to judge but there is something about how rickdugan seems to focus on the icky aspects of sex with strangers for money that makes me view him as a d-bag!
If he had just told a story about meeting a girl that seemed reluctant but came through and gave him a good time that would be brilliant! But this? Not brilliant :(
Anything is possible, but if she was acting then she deserves an Oscar. This was one of my regular clubs and, until last night, she was always adamant that she did not take money for sex. I'll readily admit that I was happy that her misfortune opened up an opportunity and if that makes me a D-bag then so be it. I had a great time with her - GFE all the way. Now I have no idea if and how much she has fucked for money before, but her issues seemed genuine and it was a very different experience than the type I normally get with girls who I know do it routinely.
Besides, in my experience, most escort sex sucks anyway. Sex with strippers is often very different, especially when you find one who does not market herself elsewhere as an escort and is eager for repeat visits.
Day girls don't seem to try the pity hustle like night girls do. Probably because they're higher mileage so they're more willing to just go directly for the sex hustle.
She tried hitting me up for a $200 tip -- with absolutely zero action. I told her no. She kept nagging and haggling and lowering it. I kept telling her no. It got to the point where I just told her, "That's it. We're done."
She effected the big pout, borderline tears. "Is it because I won't have sex with you?"
"No." I dropped her a $20 pity tip, then left the club. And I will never go back there.
It's just a hustle as most of us know – and they pull it b/c a lot of part-time SCers that don't know the game/hustle will fall for the “damsel in distress” act.
Strippers are to be trusted as much as one would trust a used car salesman in a car dealership.
Used car salesman? You mean like our very own Leisure Suit RickyBoy?
I walk away from dancers who try the routine on me. If you can't feed them,
don't breed them. I have been burned before and learned my lesson.
And this is is the sort of thing that makes me think you're trolling us! "I just happened to be looking at this thread without logging in..." If you really don't want to engage me (or anybody else) then don't engage! Don't complain about "trolls", make a big deal about not "feeding trolls", and then engage with somebody you consider to be a troll!
"I'll readily admit that I was happy that her misfortune opened up an opportunity and if that makes me a D-bag then so be it. I had a great time with her - GFE all the way. Now I have no idea if and how much she has fucked for money before, but her issues seemed genuine and it was a very different experience than the type I normally get with girls who I know do it routinely.'
This sort of crapola is why I call you a d-bag! It isn't that you "lucked out" to get some good sex for pay ("at the going market rate") it's that you take glee in this being hard for her and have some d-bag "lioness" speech for strippers like her! To be fair, it is probably hard for her to fuck you, because you're such a d-bag!
So, rickdugan, if you happen to "accidentally" read this without logging on and want to actually discuss my point please do! I'll be expecting the exact same sort of non-brilliant answer I got here! :(
I don’t see how Dugan bought it – I think he said/was-aware of it being a hustle and it seems he sorta just played along and used her hustle/SS to get what he wanted
stfu zipperhead
Some of the obvious players in this discussion appear to have a problem with this, as if he'd paid too much, or shouldn't have paid at all. Is that it, or am I missing something? It is it simple jealousy over the fact that Rick actually went out and *did* what he talks about, instead of just talking about it, or lecturing others on the "right" way to do it?
Maybe the problem is that some of the guys in this thread are ultra humane types who get messed up by sob stories. Not me, at least not anymore. I've been way too many pity hustles tried on me over the years to view them as anything but an opportunity. The ones who are just running a con usually take off quickly when hit with the OTC counter and the ones who really need the cash (and who I want to fuck) get a way to earn some. Some of my best OTC adventures have come from pity hustle girls.
That said, I have loaned small amounts of money to favs on occasion. But I see it as similar to how credit is sometimes extended in long-term business relationships.
well OK then. hibachi has opined and now we can all return to our bedrooms for some self reflection
I believe your statement to be incorrect. Even aside from my own case, this board is replete with examples. It might not be a *healthy* bond, but it is a bond.
That's not to say it was a bad deal or anyone got conned, but I stick with what I said.
However, I'm reasonably sure that in at least one case, there is a two way bond. She calls me at least as much as I call her, and she has yet to ask me for money since she left town.
And one example is all I need to prove that your absolute statement is incorrect. :)))))
But at the end of the day, whether I believed her or not doesn't matter. I dealt with it the same way I always do with pity hustles and got what I wanted without giving her charity cash.
Human emotions being what they are, there's obviously not an absolute cause and effect between them, but the correlation is there.
Anecdotally, my relationship with my ATF was the longest one I've had with *any* woman except my wife. However, my wife and I had only dated for two years before we got married; my ATF and I were having sex for almost half again as long as that before I admitted to myself what was going on.
Bottom line, without the sex, I don't think it would have happened, even had we been together on a daily basis for an extended period of time.
Brilliant point!
"Maybe there was some truth to her story."
I suspect there was! He kid probably did have a birthday coming up and she probably wanted more money (whether or not said money was for her kid's birthday)!
But the bigger point is that rickdugan seems to get off on her reluctance to have sex, possibly more than he gets off on the sex itself! As I see it there are two possibilities! She could be exaggerating her reluctance to get more money out of rickdugan (likely) or she could really be bothered by the thought of having sex for money (less likely).
If it's the first its no harm no foul but rickdugan was being a bit of a fool! If its the latter then prolonging the interaction with the lioness story isn't going to make her feel better! Why would it? Some d-bag you didn't want to fuck tells you that you were a "brave little soldier" for fucking him! Why would that be comforting? So either rickdugan doesn't realize how normal people react to things or he was intentionally being cruel!
Hence my judgement of rickdugan = non-brilliant! = d-bag