Getting Hustled?
From what I can tell, my ATF is a pretty good hustler. She has a number of guys that take her shopping, give her expensive gifts, do favors for her, and pay her to go out with them (apparently without sex). It takes her about 0.5 seconds to talk people into lap dances, and she gets so many drinks bought for her she can’t drink them all. I asked her once why people do that and she told me she actively tries to make men fall in love with her because then they’ll do whatever she wants. That, and she knows how to talk dirty.
I go to the club about once a week, and when I’m there I buy her drinks too - usually 4-8 over the course of several hours (they’re cheap and she makes a couple bucks off of each one). I also buy every other dancer there drinks, if they choose to sit with me for a while. Otherwise, I very, very rarely get dances or VIP from her (only three times in over a year), and I never tip her for anything. I’ve made it clear under no uncertain terms that I won’t be buying her things or giving her money for nothing (although I did buy her a somewhat expensive belated birthday present). She just hangs out and drinks with me in between doing dances for other customers, sitting with her other regulars, doing VIP rooms, etc.
I’m reasonably comfortable thinking of her as a friend - we talk about very personal things and I see her outside the club (for free) every few weeks. She texts me to come in every time she works, and she won’t leave before me. If her shift ends before I’m gone, she’ll get dressed and hang out with me until I leave (which is sometimes several hours). She insists on cuddling and holding hands while she sits with me, and she lets me touch her anywhere. By the time I got my first (and only) lap dance with her, I had already gotten to “third base” more times than I could remember. Also, apparently one of the waitresses and some of the other customers think we’re dating.
That was fine until a couple of months ago when she got drunk and out of the blue told me she loves me. I said “haha yeah I like you too”. Then she said “No, I mean it - I love you. Maybe you think that’s bullshit but it’s not”.
I’ve had strippers tell me they love me before, but it has always been obvious they meant it in a joking or friendly way. This one threw me for a loop. I don’t know what to think. On the one hand, I feel like she might be trying to hustle me. On the other hand, I can’t imagine why she’d put up with the kind of interaction we have for so long for such little return.
I care about her quite a bit, but her job is to get men to give her money, so I acknowledge I’m in RIL territory. Am I being played?
I go to the club about once a week, and when I’m there I buy her drinks too - usually 4-8 over the course of several hours (they’re cheap and she makes a couple bucks off of each one). I also buy every other dancer there drinks, if they choose to sit with me for a while. Otherwise, I very, very rarely get dances or VIP from her (only three times in over a year), and I never tip her for anything. I’ve made it clear under no uncertain terms that I won’t be buying her things or giving her money for nothing (although I did buy her a somewhat expensive belated birthday present). She just hangs out and drinks with me in between doing dances for other customers, sitting with her other regulars, doing VIP rooms, etc.
I’m reasonably comfortable thinking of her as a friend - we talk about very personal things and I see her outside the club (for free) every few weeks. She texts me to come in every time she works, and she won’t leave before me. If her shift ends before I’m gone, she’ll get dressed and hang out with me until I leave (which is sometimes several hours). She insists on cuddling and holding hands while she sits with me, and she lets me touch her anywhere. By the time I got my first (and only) lap dance with her, I had already gotten to “third base” more times than I could remember. Also, apparently one of the waitresses and some of the other customers think we’re dating.
That was fine until a couple of months ago when she got drunk and out of the blue told me she loves me. I said “haha yeah I like you too”. Then she said “No, I mean it - I love you. Maybe you think that’s bullshit but it’s not”.
I’ve had strippers tell me they love me before, but it has always been obvious they meant it in a joking or friendly way. This one threw me for a loop. I don’t know what to think. On the one hand, I feel like she might be trying to hustle me. On the other hand, I can’t imagine why she’d put up with the kind of interaction we have for so long for such little return.
I care about her quite a bit, but her job is to get men to give her money, so I acknowledge I’m in RIL territory. Am I being played?
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By the way she's very likely fucking the guys she sees OTC. Just thought you should know before you accept an imaginary stripper girlfriend.
My reasoning for thinking she doesn't have sex with people she goes OTC with is that she brags about how she gets people to give her things without having to have sex with them. She's told me "eventually they realize they're not going to get sex from me and they get mad and stop coming around, but oh well there's always another one".
It's worth nothing that this is the Midwest, in a town where P2P is difficult to find, even with escorts.
But, yeah, I wouldn't rule it out.
In fact getting dances from her will move you into customer zone and passion will be gone.
she's probably already checked with other dancers about you. That "this dude doesn't get dances from anyone - in fact only comes to the club for you".
I too would believe her - largely her OTC trips are sex free - exceptions notwithstanding. Which don't count anyways.
If you like her, physically I mean, go for it.
Remember dancers are adventurous people - they like something - go full intensity - and then interest wears off - and look for next adventure. So keep that in mind - and keep up, change your game - if you want to keep her intensity for you high.
Or, enjoy good supper and sex for a few months - and if you are like rest of us red blooded TUSCLers - you'd yourself be looking for the next bubble-butt diva.
But anyway one thing that a universal truth, if you have to ask if you're being played then you most likely are...
It also sounds like she considers you "safe." Sorry, man, but even if you've gotten to third base with her, you might've been friend-zoned by a stripper.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
Oh, and if you aren't willing to stop your visits for fear of how she might react, then you really already know the answer.
You're being played.
Sorry. Just the unbiased facts...
Keep in mind, it doesn't even have to be hustle. These girls are often emotional wrecks. I became good friends with a stripper I met at a club, even though I was never her customer (long story). When she retired from stripping, she removed everyone from her life who she met in the stripper world, except 3-4 really good customer who she really liked, and who she wanted to stay friends with. Well, I remember the day she jettisoned those 3-4 guys also, "You know, I really thought I liked those guys, but I was confusing my gratitude and appreciation for their financial support, and emotional support, for real feelings of affection. Now that I don't need their money or emotional support, I figured out I don't like them that much anymore". Just the way some strip club customers confuse lust for love, some strippers confuse appreciation for actual affection.
I think a lot of you are right - in order to be sure, I have to quit going to the club. Fortunately, she's not the only reason I go and I have fun while I'm there so perhaps it isn't super important to me that I know how she feels for real.
Insofar as the Friend Zone goes, when I was younger I was God Emperor of the Friend Zone. After a few long and painful experiences, I wizened up and I don't do that any more. My ATF and I are both in relationships (so the sex issue is complicated for both of us), but when I met her I told her I want to fuck her brains out and I remind her periodically under no uncertain terms, the last of which was only a couple of days ago. I *think* that keeps me out of the Friend Zone.
Shortly after that, I was sitting with my second favorite, and my ATF came over. I told her "get in there and give it to her". A few moments later, I was working her G-spot and kissing/biting her all over while she made out with another dancer, on the main floor, in my lap, for free. Is that a Friend Zone thing?