Is being young a disadvantage in the strip clubs?

Clackport
Washington
I have heard strippers say they don't approach the young customers (generally under 30), for a few reasons including: the young people are more handsy and disrespectful, they are less likely to buy a dance, if they do buy a dance it's more likely to be a single dance rather than a 30 min VIP, they try to ask the strippers out on dates rather than getting dances, they have a cocky attitude about them that they feel they shouldn't have to pay for a Lapdance, and last but not least THEY GENERALLY HAVE LESS MONEY.

All of this is in comparison to the older customers. I have noticed that the strippers don't approach me too often. I will be tipping a girl on stage more money than the older guy next to me, but yet after her stageset she goes and sits by the older guy. It's a little frustrating, but I understand it's all about money, and she thinks has a better chance making more money with the older guy.

On the other hand if the younger guy makes a good connection with a stripper, there is a better chance (slightly better chance in most instances) for free OTC compared to a older guy.

Should the young guys stick to the nightclubs and bars, and leave the stripclubs for the older guys?

Thoughts?

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  • shadowcat
    10 years ago
    I think you have a good handle on the situation but I'm not sure that your solution is the best. I was once young and considered quite handsome but I never had much luck in picking up girls from bars and night clubs. I think that is what drove me to marry a much younger woman. That turned out to be a big mistake. If I were you I would seek out more civies but through friends, etc and not bars. In the mean time, you can still go to strip clubs and take what you can get.
  • rockstar666
    10 years ago
    The pros like older guys for everything: company, dances and OTC. We have more money, pay more attention to hygiene and have better manners. 99.99% of dancers don't give a rats ass how good looking you are if you don't have the above because they have .01% interest in a relationship outside of business.
  • Subraman
    10 years ago
    I always had a good time in the strip clubs when I was younger. Yes, the old guys have some advantages, but the young guys have an advantage here and there, too. It was always my sense that the younger girls often found it a relief to dance for younger guys, and even the old pros appreciated it here and there. Back then, there was no tuscl, and it never occurred to me that youth was anything but an advantage, it sure never spoiled my good time in a strip club.

    So I don't think you should just assume it's your youth. You need to double-check that you're not giving off a creepy or cheap vibe, maybe go during a less busy time where there's less competition and establish some faves, and perhaps be more assertive at the tip rail (this sounds awfully passive: " I will be tipping a girl on stage more money than the older guy next to me, but yet after her stageset she goes and sits by the older guy")
  • eyeamlong
    10 years ago
    Young man, its all about how much money you are spending,,, And yes give the dancers RESPECT !!!!
  • sinclair
    10 years ago
    A certain percentage of dancers will avoid younger guys. It is definitely the perception that they have little money and just want to take in the view. You can squash the perception by not going to the SC's in a group of young guys, dressing like you have some jingle (a suit or dockers/button-up shirt), and tipping well.

    There are three types of strippers: dancers who will completely ignore young guys, dancers who will pursue the young guys after working all of the older guys in the room, and dancers who don't care because money is money no matter who they get it off of.

    The advantage to being young is like you highlighted. All factors being equal, they'd rather fuck a young bull than an old ox.
  • impala
    10 years ago
    Dancer I use to date told me that she preferred to pay more attention older guys for a few reasons:
    - Older guys tend to have more money to spend
    - Older guys were generally more respectful
    - Younger guys generally tries to push the club and dancer rules a lot further
    - Younger guys would get jealous more readily if a dancer they liked payed more attention to other customers
    - Younger guys a lot of times would think that they were starting a relationships and would hang around longer than they should, older guys typically would go home to their wives
    - If some type of side action would get set up, a lot of younger guys almost acted like stalkers afterwards
    - The younger guys didn't understand that what they were feeling was lust and not love

  • GoVikings
    10 years ago
    Well first of all, the percentage of young guys who go to strip clubs regularly is probably very, very low. There's nothing wrong with it, but its certainly very much outside the norm. Most regular strip club customers are middle aged or older.

    Secondly, getting free OTC from strippers is highly unlikely regardless of how old you are because the vast majority of strippers aren't trying to hook up with customers.

    And yes, being young IS a disadvantage. The only advantage I think a younger guy has is....I'd assume that strippers would much rather dance for younger guys than a guy who is decades older than them.....but besides that.....I think they'd much rather deal with middle aged or older men (because they got more $, generally more polite, etc)
  • chandler
    10 years ago
    I was over 30 when I started, but that made me one of the younger guys in the club. I learned early on not to sit around and wait for strippers to come to me, but to get up and go after what I wanted. I didn't arrive at this approach after analyzing my predicament very much. I just got my ass in gear. Don't let yourself be disadvantaged. TAKE the advantage.
  • lopaw
    10 years ago
    Just like young guys, women have a rep in clubs for being really cheap and not tipping or buying dances. When I first started clubbing I had no idea that some dancers thought this. I learned very good early on what a weird world the strip club really is.
  • Dolfan
    10 years ago
    I'm over 30 now, but it wasn't that long ago that I was on your side of the "young line." I'm with Subraman, I wouldn't assume its all age. Age certainly is a factor, but I don't think its the primary one. Its impossible to know what's going on in the female mind that drives their behavior. Strippers are even more extreme examples of this unpredictability.

    I'll also pile on with the suggestion to be more assertive when tipping. If you want a girl to come sit with you, say something when you tip her. For what its worth, I've found there to be little correlation between amount of tipping and dancer's coming approaching until you get to tips in the $50-$100 range. At the same time, its pretty rare for a dancer I asked to come by not to, and even more rare that they don't tell me they won't in advance (eg, I'm busy with my whale, it may be a bit.)
  • JamesSD
    10 years ago
    I'm in my 30s but honestly look younger and work in tech where I can dress casual for work. I'm definitely not first on the list to approach for some dancers. This can be mildly annoying when it's moderately busy, I am looking to get a couple LDs and only the dregs of the club approach me.

    The flip side is the dancers who DO approach me often are in the mindset of "if I get anything out of this guy it's a win" vs "this guy should do VIP". I'm more likely to get dancers who are in "shoot the shit" mode to sit down with me, or dancers who ate dodging annoying customers. I've made some casual friendships with dancers this way; no free OTC, but I have hung out socially with a couple dancers. Again, not a "date", but meeting up at a bar for a drink with a group. Unfortunately my current lifestyle isn't super compatible with "let's go to the bar at midnight on a Thursday" anymore.

    Anyways, in general if a dancer doesn't have a regular she needs to attend to, you can flag her down. I've watched young guys who clearly had no cash flag down every girl there to try to flirt, and the girls always stop to talk for at least a minute. It really does depend how busy the club is and how many dancers are there.
  • Subraman
    10 years ago
    Dolfan: "I'll also pile on with the suggestion to be more assertive when tipping"

    Yes, this is exactly what I meant when I said R's description seemed awfully passive. At any age, I've never found it to take much more than, "if you're not with a customer, I'd love to get some dances, come by and see me" when she walks around the stage thanking everyone when she picks up her tips, to get any stripper who is not already encumbered by a regular to come over.
  • Subraman
    10 years ago
    JamesSD: "I'm more likely to get dancers who are in "shoot the shit" mode to sit down with me, or dancers who ate dodging annoying customers. I've made some casual friendships with dancers this way; no free OTC, but I have hung out socially with a couple dancers. Again, not a "date", but meeting up at a bar for a drink with a group. "

    So the funny thing here is, I get lots of that also, and I'm on the wrong side of 40 -- in fact, as I look around the club, I get far more of that than even the younger customers. I get lots of shoot-the-shit in the club, and eating or drinking before or after her shift, for free? No big deal. Hang out "socially" (that is, hang out together, for free, on a day she's not working, drinking etc. but no sex), check. Free sex OTC is harder, but the small handful of times I pulled it off, it was on this side of 40, never once experienced that as a younger man.

    Overall, while there are advantages and disadvantages of youth, I think it's ridiculous to let those advantages define your experience. I never knew dancers were supposed to avoid me when I was younger, and I never let being older stop me from pursuing various types of for-free socializing. Go find a way to have a fun time, rather than look for excuses as to why you're not. I'm sounding a bit motivational speaker-ish, but don't want anyone to metaphorically end up in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
  • rickdugan
    10 years ago
    You are definitely at a disadvantage, but on the flip side, do you really want to blow a lot of money in clubs at your age? During the times I was single in my 20s and even very early 30s, I was having way too much fun fucking and sucking civvie girls to be motivated to chase strippers. It was only as I settled down that I found increased motivation to spend large chunks of time in strip clubs, as back asswards as that may sound.

    And there are many places besides nightclubs and bars to meet civvie chicks. There are even a myriad of online communities.
  • Mistah_Fetti_Morbuxxx
    10 years ago
    I believe younger people are at a disadvantage but I don't think it is too drastic.
  • bvino
    10 years ago
    I had a dancer explain to me once as a matter of respect and gratitude. Older guys ,she said, generally were grateful and didn't offer $20.00 to fuck. It was more than the money for her ,it was the attitude. My odds of hitting a civilian around 25 are slim and none so hell yeah I am grateful. I was not so grateful at 25 though and I can see her point. You can change your attitude.
  • Diva1975
    10 years ago
    I go for the older guys because I am getting older myself and I think I have a better chance with them. I have met just as many disrespectful old guys as young guys
  • warhawks
    10 years ago

    A lot of the comments on this thread are spot on.

    I once knew a guy who was around his mid 20's who I went to some clubs with... He had the additude that he "shouldn't have to pay" for a dance or for extras... Or for anything for that matter. I think some young guys don't understand that the strip club isn't a civie "night club". The girls aren't there to be "picked up." They are working and are there to make money. Older guys understand this fact more than younger guys seem to.
  • chandler
    10 years ago
    When I was in my 20s my attitude was that I shouldn't have to pay for pussy. That's why I never went to strip clubs until later.
  • chandler
    10 years ago
    None of the young strippers I know (18-22) tend to hang out with younger guys in the club, except on rare days when their boyfriends or other "real life" friends come in. No doubt it's a money thing. They often complain about slimeball older customers.
  • Clackport
    10 years ago
    As far as a young guy meeting girls, yes there are other places besides nightclubs, bars, and stripclubs to meet girls. I've met girls at school, work, mall, beach. I was just talking about the nightlife when it came to these things.

    I generally approach strippers, and I usually don't have a problem getting the stripper I want for dances, and I generally have a good time. I was just giving a example of what happens sometimes when I tip compared to a older guy.

    @jabberwock- both the younger and older dancers avoid the younger guys, but it's more likely that a younger dancer will come to a younger guy as opposed to a older dancer.
  • Corvus
    10 years ago
    Great question. But you may be thinking too deeply about this, although there is a lot of quality to the comments above relative to respect and available funds.

    Just remember, you are asking about women and no matter how much we think we know about women, we will never figure them out. Never.
  • farmerart
    10 years ago
    When I was young work was the focus of my life.

    During my brief retirement pussy was the focus of my life.

    For me, work has been infinitely more satisfying than pussy has been, whatever my age. I discovered SCs only in my old age and quickly learned that my money trumped anything that brokeass young guys could offer to a hot stripper.
  • Clackport
    10 years ago
    @Corvus- you're right about never figuring out women, that is something I can't do. I can fuck them good though!! :)
  • alabegonz
    10 years ago
    When I was in my twenties which was like a long long time ago, going to SCs never occurred to me, though.

    Now that I am old, I seem to be finding myself hanging out in SCs.

    But that's just me.

    Women will always be working in the SC. They have to make money. Don't think she likes you just because she is nice to you.

    One way of knowing she likes you is telling her you do not have enough money and If she keeps coming back to you then you know she likes you.

    SCs are for everybody, just go there and have a good time. Then forget the girl and toss the memory out the window.
  • JohnSmith69
    10 years ago
    Being older is a big advantage in a strip club much of the time. That's one reason it's so awesome -- the cute young women flock to the old men in the room.

    If I was in my 20s today Id focus on civilian women. The young girls today are total sluts compared to when I was 20.
  • Eagle1191
    10 years ago
    The young women today also do not practice safe sex either, sure they give it away easily but they often also give unwanted gifts that keep giving.
  • jestrite50
    10 years ago
    I have found its all about "the money"! I never went to strip clubs when I was younger because I couldn't afford to. As you progress in your career you start making more money and you don't hold on to it like you did when you were young. I remember the first night I spent a hundred dollars in a strip club. I kicked my ass all the way home. But I went back. Now I never spend less than 200 and most nights it's 700-800. If the girls see you spending money on them Age will not matter. It's SHOW ME YOUR MONEY !
  • Timex345
    10 years ago
    As long as you have the money, the women in a showclub don't care about you.
  • BigPoppa99
    10 years ago
    ;) I'm very fortunate and lucky to say it's all about the money! And being a young, tall, dark, and handsome guy, doesn't hurt either...
    The girls will admit that they prefer to dance will young guys; seeing it more of an ego boost. But in the end C.R.E.A.M. Cash Rules Everything Around Me, or them, for that matter....
  • ilbbaicnl
    10 years ago
    If you're a good customer (polite, not trying to get something for nothing) you're always better off going to a club you've been to before many times. The only downside is the common problem where dancers think a custy should only get dances from one dancer. The disadvantages (young, wear cheap clothes, etc.) go away once dancers know what to expect from you.

    Do we really need to AGAIN go over the long list of reasons why a dancer just sits with a custy when you'd buy a dance if she'd just ask. He could be paying her for company, he could be her OTC sugar daddy, etc. etc.
  • Papi_Chulo
    10 years ago
    For most dancers; SCs are primarily about business/$$$ and they will go to where they perceive the $$$ is - older guys are perceived as having more $$$ and *also* being more willing to spend it (some young guys may have the $$$ but may say “nah man – I don’t wanna buy lap-dances cause I wanna get the new IPhone-6; new rims for my ride; the latest Air Jordans; etc).

    Older guys may also be a much easier target – a dancer will consciously or subconsciously assume a 50 y/o guy would in no other way be able to get w/ a hot 20-something and is thus is willing to pay a premium to do so.

    I started my professional PL career at 30 and tended to look (and act) younger than my age – and found at times being passed up by the hos as they literally would walk right past my table w/o even making eye contact w/ me and go sit w/ the silver-fox – I kinda noticed this more at the upscale clubs where there seemed to be more older guys of means.

    It’s probably not an even playing field and under circumstances like this it means a young guy may need to be more proactive in order to overcome some preconceived ideas.
  • ilbbaicnl
    10 years ago
    @Diva at one club I use to frequent, there was a busty dancer in her 40s who reputedly was very popular with the younger customers. I wouldn't be so quick to write them off.
  • Dougster
    10 years ago
    In SCs it's all about what? Money!
  • Eagle1191
    10 years ago
    I'm in my late 20's and right from the start never had trouble with dancers approaching me or asking if I wanted some company, at a local club many of the day shift dancers know I will not be a cheap skate nor a rude customer. I asked one of the ladies once a while ago why they seem to treat me better then some and apparently a little class, manners, and not being a creep goes a long way.

    I am pretty adverage for looks and from what I have seen the older guys at my local clubs do not get dances often but do tend to just sit there nursing a drink and maybe tipping at the stage. One of the older guys I have seen in there a few times does get dances but I have heard he is a bit to handsy and is often way to drunk when he does get a dance.

    Its ironic that my second visit to one of the clubs a dancer gave out free extras to me cause I talked to her like a normal person and asked what she was ok with before we did a private dance, I was also hesitant to "break the rules". Needless to say I often enjoy going to that club more when she is there.
  • rentz2
    10 years ago
    No
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