Is being young a disadvantage in the strip clubs?
Clackport
Washington
All of this is in comparison to the older customers. I have noticed that the strippers don't approach me too often. I will be tipping a girl on stage more money than the older guy next to me, but yet after her stageset she goes and sits by the older guy. It's a little frustrating, but I understand it's all about money, and she thinks has a better chance making more money with the older guy.
On the other hand if the younger guy makes a good connection with a stripper, there is a better chance (slightly better chance in most instances) for free OTC compared to a older guy.
Should the young guys stick to the nightclubs and bars, and leave the stripclubs for the older guys?
Thoughts?
Got something to say?
Start your own discussion
36 comments
Latest
So I don't think you should just assume it's your youth. You need to double-check that you're not giving off a creepy or cheap vibe, maybe go during a less busy time where there's less competition and establish some faves, and perhaps be more assertive at the tip rail (this sounds awfully passive: " I will be tipping a girl on stage more money than the older guy next to me, but yet after her stageset she goes and sits by the older guy")
There are three types of strippers: dancers who will completely ignore young guys, dancers who will pursue the young guys after working all of the older guys in the room, and dancers who don't care because money is money no matter who they get it off of.
The advantage to being young is like you highlighted. All factors being equal, they'd rather fuck a young bull than an old ox.
- Older guys tend to have more money to spend
- Older guys were generally more respectful
- Younger guys generally tries to push the club and dancer rules a lot further
- Younger guys would get jealous more readily if a dancer they liked payed more attention to other customers
- Younger guys a lot of times would think that they were starting a relationships and would hang around longer than they should, older guys typically would go home to their wives
- If some type of side action would get set up, a lot of younger guys almost acted like stalkers afterwards
- The younger guys didn't understand that what they were feeling was lust and not love
Secondly, getting free OTC from strippers is highly unlikely regardless of how old you are because the vast majority of strippers aren't trying to hook up with customers.
And yes, being young IS a disadvantage. The only advantage I think a younger guy has is....I'd assume that strippers would much rather dance for younger guys than a guy who is decades older than them.....but besides that.....I think they'd much rather deal with middle aged or older men (because they got more $, generally more polite, etc)
I'll also pile on with the suggestion to be more assertive when tipping. If you want a girl to come sit with you, say something when you tip her. For what its worth, I've found there to be little correlation between amount of tipping and dancer's coming approaching until you get to tips in the $50-$100 range. At the same time, its pretty rare for a dancer I asked to come by not to, and even more rare that they don't tell me they won't in advance (eg, I'm busy with my whale, it may be a bit.)
The flip side is the dancers who DO approach me often are in the mindset of "if I get anything out of this guy it's a win" vs "this guy should do VIP". I'm more likely to get dancers who are in "shoot the shit" mode to sit down with me, or dancers who ate dodging annoying customers. I've made some casual friendships with dancers this way; no free OTC, but I have hung out socially with a couple dancers. Again, not a "date", but meeting up at a bar for a drink with a group. Unfortunately my current lifestyle isn't super compatible with "let's go to the bar at midnight on a Thursday" anymore.
Anyways, in general if a dancer doesn't have a regular she needs to attend to, you can flag her down. I've watched young guys who clearly had no cash flag down every girl there to try to flirt, and the girls always stop to talk for at least a minute. It really does depend how busy the club is and how many dancers are there.
Yes, this is exactly what I meant when I said R's description seemed awfully passive. At any age, I've never found it to take much more than, "if you're not with a customer, I'd love to get some dances, come by and see me" when she walks around the stage thanking everyone when she picks up her tips, to get any stripper who is not already encumbered by a regular to come over.
So the funny thing here is, I get lots of that also, and I'm on the wrong side of 40 -- in fact, as I look around the club, I get far more of that than even the younger customers. I get lots of shoot-the-shit in the club, and eating or drinking before or after her shift, for free? No big deal. Hang out "socially" (that is, hang out together, for free, on a day she's not working, drinking etc. but no sex), check. Free sex OTC is harder, but the small handful of times I pulled it off, it was on this side of 40, never once experienced that as a younger man.
Overall, while there are advantages and disadvantages of youth, I think it's ridiculous to let those advantages define your experience. I never knew dancers were supposed to avoid me when I was younger, and I never let being older stop me from pursuing various types of for-free socializing. Go find a way to have a fun time, rather than look for excuses as to why you're not. I'm sounding a bit motivational speaker-ish, but don't want anyone to metaphorically end up in A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
And there are many places besides nightclubs and bars to meet civvie chicks. There are even a myriad of online communities.
A lot of the comments on this thread are spot on.
I once knew a guy who was around his mid 20's who I went to some clubs with... He had the additude that he "shouldn't have to pay" for a dance or for extras... Or for anything for that matter. I think some young guys don't understand that the strip club isn't a civie "night club". The girls aren't there to be "picked up." They are working and are there to make money. Older guys understand this fact more than younger guys seem to.
I generally approach strippers, and I usually don't have a problem getting the stripper I want for dances, and I generally have a good time. I was just giving a example of what happens sometimes when I tip compared to a older guy.
@jabberwock- both the younger and older dancers avoid the younger guys, but it's more likely that a younger dancer will come to a younger guy as opposed to a older dancer.
Just remember, you are asking about women and no matter how much we think we know about women, we will never figure them out. Never.
During my brief retirement pussy was the focus of my life.
For me, work has been infinitely more satisfying than pussy has been, whatever my age. I discovered SCs only in my old age and quickly learned that my money trumped anything that brokeass young guys could offer to a hot stripper.
Now that I am old, I seem to be finding myself hanging out in SCs.
But that's just me.
Women will always be working in the SC. They have to make money. Don't think she likes you just because she is nice to you.
One way of knowing she likes you is telling her you do not have enough money and If she keeps coming back to you then you know she likes you.
SCs are for everybody, just go there and have a good time. Then forget the girl and toss the memory out the window.
If I was in my 20s today Id focus on civilian women. The young girls today are total sluts compared to when I was 20.
The girls will admit that they prefer to dance will young guys; seeing it more of an ego boost. But in the end C.R.E.A.M. Cash Rules Everything Around Me, or them, for that matter....
Do we really need to AGAIN go over the long list of reasons why a dancer just sits with a custy when you'd buy a dance if she'd just ask. He could be paying her for company, he could be her OTC sugar daddy, etc. etc.
Older guys may also be a much easier target – a dancer will consciously or subconsciously assume a 50 y/o guy would in no other way be able to get w/ a hot 20-something and is thus is willing to pay a premium to do so.
I started my professional PL career at 30 and tended to look (and act) younger than my age – and found at times being passed up by the hos as they literally would walk right past my table w/o even making eye contact w/ me and go sit w/ the silver-fox – I kinda noticed this more at the upscale clubs where there seemed to be more older guys of means.
It’s probably not an even playing field and under circumstances like this it means a young guy may need to be more proactive in order to overcome some preconceived ideas.
I am pretty adverage for looks and from what I have seen the older guys at my local clubs do not get dances often but do tend to just sit there nursing a drink and maybe tipping at the stage. One of the older guys I have seen in there a few times does get dances but I have heard he is a bit to handsy and is often way to drunk when he does get a dance.
Its ironic that my second visit to one of the clubs a dancer gave out free extras to me cause I talked to her like a normal person and asked what she was ok with before we did a private dance, I was also hesitant to "break the rules". Needless to say I often enjoy going to that club more when she is there.