What about "strippers" that never get up on stage to strip?
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
But should they be given a pass. That means less dancers in the stage rotation and it means that not all of the customers get a shot at seeing her without clothes. I have had guys PM for dancer names and if I think they deserve it, I'll give them some. But some of them never get up on stage so the guy cannot listen out for the DJ to announce dancer names. I guess the customers could ask a waitress or bouncer but at busy clubs they may not know that dancer or may not know if she is there.
With less dancers in the rotation, I have seen times at clubs when there are no dancers on stage. This should not be allowed to happen and I have had bouncers interrupt my conversation with a stripper to tell her to get her ass up on stage even though it is not her turn. That pisses me off.
At some clubs the girls are taken off the rotation when they do a VIP but at some other clubs the customer has to grease the bouncer to insure she doesn't get called to the stage. I have also been in semi private couch rooms getting numerous dances and the mileage has been getting better with each dance and then she has to stop right when things are about to burst to go on stage or get fined. They should get a pass if they are taking care of a customer.
So my opinion is that all dancers should be in the stage rotation but should get passes if they are in the back rooms with customers.
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I think the there are a lot of factors for why girls stay off stage.
1. Egos, I have heard in the last some girls think they are "too good" to have to go on stage. These girls are usually the (or perceive themselves as) "elite" dancers in the club.
2. Low tip out. Some girls know they can pay the extra tip out because to them it's still low and they can make it up in lappers.
... I know of one stripper who would pay the additional tip out at one club because dancing on a large stage with multiple girls was a waste of her time because guys didn't tip well at that club... the stage location was poorly planned for tipping and 8 girls on multiple stages at the same time meant she was getting little attention. Across town at a smaller club, she loved being on stage because they had only 2 stages as well as only 2 girls on at a time. she would get lots of attention as well as tips.
I used to pay my ATF's stage skip fees just so she could spend more time with me in the club.
So the dancers might be having a customer pay for them to not get on stage.
The bars in my area don't really care. They are getting the stage skip fees.
But I can see how the other dancers wouldn't like it, as it means they have to go on stage more often.
I imagine the stage rotation is a very different beast at 5 girl clubs vs 100 girl clubs.
I have bought a shot for the DJ -- not the bouncer -- and subsequently had him offer to take my dancer out of the rotation for one round. Good for him, good for me.
The few times I’ve noticed certain dancers not going on stage has normally being older dancers – that I’ve noticed.
So when this happens you're just supposed to accept it and pay up, even if you are less than a minute into the dance?
If what you claim were to be true then the fault lies with management for agreeing to such an arrangements.
I routinely wait to see a girl onstage before I decide whether to pay for dances with her. If a dancer asks to play and I am interested but I haven't seen her on stage, I almost always suggest that she let me see her on stage first. Stage dance not shows me what her body looks like, but it often gives an idea of how sensual and permissive she is. The odds of me spending any serious money on a dancer who I haven't seen onstage first are probably about one and 100. It might happen but it's rare.
I sometimes have lap dances interrupted for girls to go onstage, which as shadowcat says is stupid. Why would they interrupt the girl who is making a bunch of money to have her go onstage to make less money? Develop a flexible system that only calls the girls onstage who weren't busy earning money at that moment. I have never seen a club that would interrupt a VIP to call a girl onstage, but that is just idiotic for management to do such a thing. Trying to extort extra money from a customer to get the girl not to leave the VIP would likely be a way to guarantee that I don't patronize that club again.
Within literally just a few minutes an extra hot blonde approaches and settles her fine ass in my lap. Low and behold it ends up being the girl I was hoping to find. While talking to get to know each other she mentioned she was off stage duty due to a knee injury.
We had a great run in VIP and never had to worry about her being called onto the stage. I got the feeling she rarely ever took a spin around the pole on stage at that point in her dancing career. She was over 40 and as hot as any dancer I've ever seen. Well put together with great experience and know how. Great dances, some of the best I've ever had.
So while I enjoy watching the girls twirl around the pole on stage, it is not a requirement for me. What bothers me more are the dancers that do go on stage and do not strip. Take your clothes off dammit. I want to see your titties.
On the other hand.... if she's just hanging around for one of her whales to arrive, maybe she doesn't need to go on stage because she she fells her regular business is enough.
To answer your question, I think its a written or verbal contract with management ,,, when dancing on stage..
2. Many go on stage to ADVERTISE, so they can get lappers and VIPs.
3. If the girl is doing lappers or VIP, the DJ should move her down the rotation.
4. Follies is strange SC, as guys don't tip much on stage, so girls love to skip it there.
5. Speaking of Follies, there used to be lovely small blonde that had fear of heights. The small height of the stage terrified her. So she would not dance on the stage. I thought it was BS, but one day when I walked in grabbed her and lifted her up as I was hugging her. She went super nova on me, and remembered her fear. So put her down and calmed her down. Alas all was forgiven as I got extra lappers from her that day.
I ended up getting more than 10 minutes before the show and a full 30 minutes after the show all for the price of a regular 30 minute session.
You're new around here, aren't you?
* For me, stage is an audition for lapdance which is an audition for VIP.
* Assuming she's doing extras in VIP, that pretty much annhilates any pretense that the dancer is an "adult entertainer" -- she's just a prostitute.
* At every club that I've been at, the DJ has the rotation list, so he'd be the one to grease to get a dancer off it. I've done this (with just an implication of VIP) just to maintain a fave's company.
* That said, if a dancer got pulled out of a VIP with me to go to the stage, I'd raise holy hell -- at least until I got my money back (including my cover).
* I was already of the opinion that all bouncers are assholes. Your stories just add to that opinion.
You made a *definitive statement* (in the form of a question) that sc was not entitled to express his opinion in a fucking online forum. I stated that this was tiresome.
If I was going to bitch at you, I'd say something about how classifying that as "opinion" is asinine.
Personally, I don't mind it girls not going on stage. Like I said, in my experience those girls aren't anything I want to see anyway. As far as pulling other girls out of lap dances/rooms - I'm 100% on board with that being stupid. I find it annoying when I'm getting dances and the girl is called on stage. But, I partially blame the girl for that. The smarter girls know where they are in the rotation or take a minute to go ask the DJ so they don't wind up in that situation. The girl should know the policy & work with it, even if that means telling me we should wait till after her stage set to start.
At my regular club, it's not unusual for a girl to skip a stage set just because she doesn't feel like it at the time. She'll be in the rotation, but when the DJ calls her to the stage, she'll just not respond. She's not doing a VIP or even a table dance, just hanging out, but as long as the other girl he calls does go up, it's apparently not a problem. Maybe it's the weed that makes everybody so laid back.
And in some clubs I may rarely notice the stage – this is usually in clubs with lots of dancers on the floor like @ Follies.
I think dancers who don't go on stage miss out on a chance to "advertise". But, most clubs have a rule that a dancer has to walk a way from a custy getting multiple back-to-back by-the-song lappers if it's her turn to go on stage (obviously bad for her). Also, there are some dancers who dislike being the center of attention of the whole club like that.