Boobs vs Booze ?

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There's no direct correlation between mileage and whether alcohol is served or nudity allowed. The most significant correlation is with attitude of management. If management has a setup that allows high mileage it will happen. If they don't it won't.

One of the highest mileage clubs in NJ is a bikini club that serves alcohol. It's basically a brothel. Every single dancer offers a full menu. I've also been to nude clubs where bouncers and the setup are not conducive to high mileage.

BTW, I have to give credit to Dougster for explaining this in response to one of my early PL career posts. I hypothesized that clubs with private lap dance booths consistently offered higher mileage. That's not true.

Local tolerance has way more to do with it than whether or not alcohol is being sold. So as HG said, there is not correlation. However, the possibility of loosing your booze license over too much mileage can be a concern for clubs where alcohol is a major % of revenue.

I know in a lot of places you can't have full nudity and sell alcohol, but over the years I've gotten higher mileage at topless clubs anyway. I'm not much of a drinker either and I never drink in a club so I won't leave flat broke.

It's a no brainer since I don't drink.

I'm also a non-drinker, and here in LA if you want serious mileage you have to go to the nude (non alcohol) clubs. The topless joints may offer some mileage, but it is usually nothing compared to the nude places. Usually there is plenty of booze in the DR's of the nude clubs, so often the girls are tipsy and the clubs tend to turn a blind eye to it as long as they don't go overboard and get visably drunk.

Alcohol has very little to do with whether a club has mileage. It's pretty much whatever management dictates, which may in turn be based on what LE would do with them if they got caught breaking the law, which is probably in turn based on how badly they want to keep their alcohol license. OTOH, I mostly go to BYOB clubs, but even they can be all over the chart as far as mileage goes.

Papi,

At least we don't have the problem here, so mileage is dictated by the clubs and dancers.

Local laws and regulations--and how actively they're enforced--have the most influence on mileage. Alcohol is a factor in that clubs with alcohol have an additional layer of regulation by the liquor commission and can lose their liquor license if they violate regulation.

Detroit, by the way, passed some very restrictive strip club rules a few years ago, but enforcement has been ignored.

While many things influence mileage, the most important of which is the attitude of LE and management, I have also noticed that nude clubs have a clear tendency to have more extras. I'm not saying that there aren't plenty of high mileage topless places, but all other things being equal your more likely to get sex in a nude club. This might be because many of the nude clubs have no alcohol (and thus nine if the regulation that comes with serving alcohol) but I don't think so because many of the highest mileage nude clubs have alcohol and extras galore.

Bottom line: I think it's the strip club gods. They determine high vs low mileage, and they allocate the best ATFs to the most deserving among us. So when you have a great night at the club, be sure to thank them. They send ROBs to the non believers.

I rarely go to full nude clubs, but I'd think that a high-end topless club makes a killing just off of drinks, especially at the outrageous prices. You have to consider that a lot of customers might go to nude clubs solely to see the girls nude on stage, not necessarily spend all their money on dances. Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

When I go to full nude no-alcohol clubs, I'll often bring a bottle of spring water -- just like the ones they sell at the vending machine or snack bar -- but filled with vodka instead. All the girls who know me will rotate through the chair next to me, hanging out, groping, and drinking. The are no problems, only opportunities :)

I join in the general consensus that it's more a matter of the attitudes of management (both the top overall management and the individuals running operations onsite on a particular night) and the local authorities. Like JS69 said, there are clusters of very high mileage and extras-loaded clubs with alcohol (as in, almost everywhere in South Florida [nudes] or Detroit [topless]).

Though I must recognize, as mentioned by jackslash, that where there IS a liquor license that is something more that The Man can hold over the club's head -- and for some clubs an ACB [or whatever it's called in the state or county] query into a license violation is far more terrifying than any police raid.

I don't drink, and I think it makes strip clubs better if their is no alcohol, not in the customers or in the dancers.

It certainly is one less set of regulations to get busted over too.

But, I notice that the metros with lots of mileage have lots of strip clubs per capita. You usually don't get this unless they are also offering alcohol. Consider Portland.

SJG