Stupid Me--Dance With a Beginner

I had one 2 weeks ago that asked me how she was doing so I told her that this was a nude club and she was supposed to take off the bottoms. She said "Sorry. Nobody told me".

All stereotypes have exceptions. I had sex with the DS on her third day. She couldn't dance either but it was the best VIP of my life. So it's a mistake to automatically write off all baby strippers. We''ve all had lots of bad dances with MILF strippers too, but we don't write off all Milfs. No reason to write off all young ones either. Try teaching them instead. It can be fun.

I've had a few terrible dances with beginners. So what? It's just a dance. I've also had some fantastic dances with them, and many who started out tame but got better and better each time. Always going with experienced dancers would be boring.

Rookies can suck

My expectations for "lap" dances are simple and don't involve any attempts to make me mess my pants. They are also generally expressed before I agree to one. If she agrees to sit there while i grope and play, and follows through, I will consider it well done.

Been there done that sooooooo many times. I'm no longer willing to spend my hard earned money teaching a confused and scared girl how to molest me.

Hmmmm.....wait a second there..........

I've had a few incredibly boring lap dances, too. One, she kept asking for the money after each dance, and they barely qualified as air dances. After the second, I paid for the dance and, without a word, went back to my table. She was quick on my heels and sat down with me, promising she'd do better and just not shutting up. I didn't say a word. After a few minutes, she gave up and left.

Another time, I had just sat down when a very cute girl parked herself on my lap and asked me about VIP. I asked her about any rules; she said there weren't any. She asked me to tip the bartender well so we wouldn't be disturbed, which silly me did. This girl had two, maybe even almost three moves, one of which involved poking her head through the curtain behind me and watching the empty floor. And she had the gall to hit me up for a tip -- a $200 tip -- without any sort of extras! If I wasn't so exhausted from boredom, I would've been on the floor laughing. It had to be the longest, most boring, least satisfying 30-minute VIP I've been through in my mongering career.

I've had my fair share of dances from newbies and while some just shouldn't have been dancing at all, much less in a strip club, others clearly have potential. I met one girl at my #2 club the first week she started and while she just didn't have the hang of lap dancing yet, it was clear she was trying. The next time I was in, she was light years better and now she's someone I will go to if my club favorite there is busy, which is more often than not.

That happens to me most often when I buy a dance from a shot girl. They can be the hottest girl in the club, but there's a reason they're not dancing! Now I stick to the pros.

I avoid the new dancers, as I have have had Art's experience too many times. However, one time I did offer to allow a newbie to practice in my hotel room, and she took me up on that. That dance worked out rather well.

I turn down some beginners who may look cute, but within seconds of meeting, show that they just don't get it yet. Any girl who starts out focusing on tips or VIP, or money at all instead of my pleasure, isn't likely to be a good candidate. With rookies, it always comes down to attitude, even if their dances start out less than great.

I broke in a new dancer once. Even her first dance was better than about 70% of the dances I had ever had to that point. She was both "coachable" and grateful for my pointers and quickly became my go to girl.

GMD wrote:
" If she agrees to sit there while i grope and play, and follows through, I will consider it well done. "

I go along with this completely. The sooner you can get her sitting instead of moving the better. And better still, to do this in the front room, before retreating to private space, and where she won't have to cut the money, and where you can terminate it if it isn't working.

SJG

There is a definite disconnect for new dancers. I would think they'd done some research before their first night or even during their first month. I also understand dancers vary from area to area with the level they at which they can entertain . In the south Florida area, it's very liberal . Had one dancer a month in a solid 8 all natural, very disappointing. Found a new girl recently two weeks in and tried with the same results. Even gave her the benefit of the doubt by doing a second dance thinking things would get better a dances went on. No dice. I'll do a little more chatting before investing in a losing proposition and a waste of time.

As a rule of thumb I think most new dancers suck (in a bad way :)) – but of course there are always exceptions to the rule as some girls just seem to be born with an extra ho chromosome in their DNA.

But thank about it – how were we as PLs when we first started – as long as they are willing to try; I may give them a chance.

Hell, it's $20, why not take a shot? Occasionally, I hit the jackpot -- a new girl who is permissive and sexy, and perhaps doesn't realize that the level of service she's providing is probably worth much more. I'm always down to take the new girl for a test drive

This has been the subject of many posts. Why not just get her off script from the start. Rather than talking about doing booth dances with her, invite her to sit with you, or to sit on you. Then place some money into her hand. She should not have to cut this with the house.

Then just try to charm her and court her with words. You talk to her, but not to solicit or negotiate. Treat her like she is a girl you just met at a party. Let her get to know you some, as this will make it easier for her to open up to you. By using eye contact and compliments let her see that you really like her. Try to get her DFKing with you, and then proceed from there.

Then only retreat to private space when it is clear to both of you that it is time to fuck.

What do you think would have happened?

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SJG

As a general rule, I tend to avoid newbies.

I understand they need to get experience somewhere. From someone.

I just prefer it to be from someone else (with someone else's money). lol.

Here's what I do guys (and gals). I pay my ATF to train them. I was in a situation at the Living Room in Dayton a while back where a girl came up to my table and told me she had just auditioned and it was her first night. I wanted to make her night and knew she had a $30 house fee to pay whether she made a dime or not. So I gave her $50 to cover her house fee and one dance. We went into the "Relax Room" and she asked me "what do I do now?" I told her to take her clothes off and start grinding on my lap. She started crying and saying she couldn't take her clothes off. I felt benevolent that night so when my ATF came in along with another excellent dancer. I paid each of them $40 to take this girl into the Relax Room and train her. Both of them worked with her for close to 20 minutes and she came out knowing what to do and how to do it. Unfortunately after a couple months she decided dancing wasn't for her. But I had fun while it lasted.

Awesome!

SJG

The real question is, is she stripping to put herself through school, maybe art college?

More like cosmetology school, Slick.

I generally avoid newbies, too. One exception I can think of was a sexy Filipina several years ago whom I met on her first night of dancing. I could have been her first *dance* ever but turned down her offer. When I said yes later in the same visit, I learned that she was a natural seductress who got me off after about two dances. After that I was a regular for the rest of her career at that club, probably three years.

Come to think of it, Filipinas *always* get me going! I don't know if only the most seductive ones become strippers, or I have Asian fever, or what, but almost all of the dozens of lap dances that I've gotten over the years from Filipinas have ended happily.

I’m not much into Asian dancers but I *do* like Filipinas since many seem to have some Spanish mix – the Filipinas of darker skin that don’t look as Asian *do* turn me on and they are often very willing to please.

I hit a black dive this afternoon down here in Miami – was only planning to stay about 2 hours and ended up staying for 5 (it *is* the season to celebrate is it not :)).

Anyway – got some dances w/ a young freaky curvy yellowbone and halfway thru our 8 consecutive dances (they are $5/song) she tells me “btw today is my first day dancing” (she def could have fooled me).

I had a great great conversation with a newbie a few years ago, she was just my type, she was hot as hell. I didn't get a dance with her because she was a newbie. When I left that club that night, I had wished I gave her a shot.

I didn't see her again until 3 years later at a different club. Man she was smoking hot. I tried to get a dance from her, but she had guys in line waiting to get dances from her. Surprisingly I never saw her again, till this day I regret not giving her a shot, she definitely had ATF potential.

What we still need is a scholarship fund, so that we can put some strippers through school so that they can become marriage counselors or divorce lawyers.

SJG