Newbie stripper - extras?
Dancinggal
Okay so I'm new to stripping and I've read absolutely every article on stripping, every review on clubs in my area, from all sorts of perspectives - new strippers, experienced strippers, regular custies, custies who like variety, ect. And I have a couple of questions for all of you that isn't completely clear for me. Do customers go strictly for extras? How common are they? Is there a certain type of girl that you know will probably do extras? And if you do go strictly for extras, why strippers and not escorts? Also, I've been working in the industry for about a month - yes , truly and complete and total newb, and I have made REALLY good money, not doing extras. I am always upfront with customers about this too. I don't play that hustle because I feel like if I promise they're gonna get something, it looks bad if I don't deliver that and they certainly won't be coming back. No, I don't expect guys to just pay me for my time and hand over gobs of cash. I work hard to make the customer feel special, important, I'm extremely sociable and will sit with them for quite some time before even asking for a dance. Despite me telling them I don't do extras, guys have still bought VIP dances from me. And I do let them TOUCH my body, just no sexual acts or touching anything besides boobs/butt, and even that is light, usually. I know this isn't fucking yahoo answers, but there are so many customers here and I really would be interested to see the discussion on this. Thanks
Xx "Cece"
Xx "Cece"
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No. But then the definition of what is an extra, might vary. I'm ok with no FS or BJ or even HJ, but at least I'm looking for a GFE, that would include kissing.
@motorhead
Thanks for your informative answers. I even paid for VIP I this site to get a deeper insight into what the customer wants and what makes them tick, and I've found this website to be mostly customers who want sexual acts or to form a SD /SB relationship with girl OTC. I actually really enjoy GFE type experiences with customers, and I've met some really amazing and respectful customers who , during a dance, will not even try to touch me. To the point of where I'll put my hands on my hips or kiss their cheek to let them know, I am okay with this type of innocent behavior that feeds the fantasy. I tend to avoid guys who ask me for extras straight up and I am kinda offset by this website because of the way the guys talk about the dancers. I know that a lot of them are spewing SS, all the excuses in the book. But there really are girls who really aren just trying to take you for all you have. A guy I danced for last night assumed we had done 5 dances, when we had only done three, and I was honest. But seeing this websites comments makes me want to up my hustle and fuck these guys over sometimes. But I wouldn't wanna ruin things for the guys who really come for the experience and appreciate me/my body, and my time.
Setting that aside Ranukman pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Also, remember that the regular posters on these discussion forums are *not* typical of strip club patrons in general, at least based on my experience. Many, if not the vast majority, just go for precisely the fantasy you're providing.
Thanks for that answer. I realize that there are gonna be customers like this, but this website blindsided me a bit with how many guys are this.
Ranukam is dead right in his assessment of SC patrons. The number of us bad boys is only a minority of total SC customers. When you take one of us to the VIP you will quickly realize what type of customer you are facing.
Your single SC review is for a SoCal club. SoCal is not the cleanest area of the North American SC industry. If you haven't done so already, you will very soon encounter one of us horndogs.
Your comment made me laugh. Terms like "bad boy " and "horn dog" remind me of highschool. I guess I've decided there are also two types of customers that want extras. I think I have encountered both. One being, the guy that respect that I don't do extras and is happy to chit chat with me for a minute, tip me on stage, and run along to a girl that will be more suited for his needs. Then there is the guy that I will tell upfront that I don't do extras (as I do to each guy I have encountered from the getgo). , this guy will buy a dance from me, maybe even VIP , and keep persisting. He will try to convince me, change my mind, offer me larger amounts of money, ect. Honestly, If a guy does this ill give my manager a heads up. The club I reviewed is one that I have not worked for, but do frequent as a customer and have friends who dance there. I know for a fact this is a pretty clean-from-extras club. But the two clubs I have worked for have been a whole nother sort. I've worked in OC and LA. And yeah, you're right. It is not the cleanest of SCs.
A club like Jumbos is basically a showcase for stage and pole work. Lapdances are not common. Got a place like Tropical Lei, on the other hand, and the gals are on you from the jump, asking if you've heard of their VIP.
Unfortunately, I don't work at Fritz. I work at a full nude club in a sketchy part of OC. I haven't reviewed my own club because I never attended as a customer, and I feel like it would be a biased opinion of a dancer that none of you guys will give a shit about how I think "bubbles" has a great personality and she alway loans me mints in the dressing room. No one fucking cares. My club definitely does extras, I talked with a customer last night who told me he frequently gets them. He was really nice though, tipped me really well on stage even though he wasn't interested in a clean dance from me. So yeah, I know girls do it. Even tough none will admit it.
Dancinggal - what club(s) in LA have you worked?
I'm waiting for the day that we get a dancer on here that that would like to make more money and wants advice on how to ask a guy if he wants a blow job.
Some do, but not all.
How common are they?
Depends where you work. Some place are zero ITC, zero OTC. Some places (Detroit, Greater Toronto) can be anything goes.
Is there a certain type of girl that you know will probably do extras?
Nope. There is zero correlation.
And if you do go strictly for extras, why strippers and not escorts?
To each their own. IMO there is a certain preview aspect with stripper who also play.
Where the hell do you work? I'd LOVE a GFE with a stripper. totally cool with that. Kind of a fantasy of mine
Strip club customers have one or more of these characteristics, to one
degree or another:
1) Obsessed with female physical appearance.
2) Lack of real empathy.
3) Sadism.
Custies whose only problem is #1 are the easiest to deal with. Other than lack of eye contact, they will be polite and friendly (within the limits of their shyness). It's hard to make decent money without dealing with #2. You have to be very assertive. I don't think there is stripper alive who hasn't had to walk out in the middle of a dance. You can be the type who keeps the money, or the type that throws it back. But don't say no twice, the second time, just walk out. The only dancers I've seen who can deal with #3 well are the ones who are sadistic themselves, they just out-dom the guy.
Some guys will seem empathetic at first, but they will see you as some stereotype, fallen woman, girl with daddy issues, nympho, etc.
Being the #1 type, I don't ask strippers for any genital contact. Most strippers tell me they find it as offensive as most other women would to be called a hooker. And they consider a request for genital contact to be calling them a hooker. If a stripper I liked offered me sex for money, I might do it outside the club. But not inside the club, due to modesty, and because it's not the norm in the clubs I go to. Dirty clubs get raided in part of the country where I live. I don't want be partly to blame for everyone in the club losing their job.
We have other dancer members here, here is one:
https://www.tuscl.net/u.php?UID=325869
You may want to read some of her posts. (She is the ONLY dancer on here who shows her face, I admire her courage, but I think it's a bad idea.)
If you can make good money without extras, more power to you. You should not be upset about "the way guys here talk about the girls like they come in for some easy sex." Guys in general talk that way about women.
But why are you so dead set against extras? Couldn't you bring a little happiness into the lives of some of us poor pathetic losers? You're already dancing nude for men and letting them touch you. Why not move to the next level and give blow jobs to some nice, respectful customers? It's not poison.
If the club you work in is known as a extras club, and you don't want to do extras, then get out now.
I have never met a long-term dancer who didn't have extras with her special regulars.
Eventually you will meet a customer that you are tremendously attracted to. Sex is a natural outcome of physical attraction. So you will make an exception for him/her.
Unless of course you have no sexual desire whatsoever, which I can't imagine because you really have to enjoy working in a sexually oriented business if you want to succeed.
I expect the dancer to stay in contact throughout the dance, except for occasional pauses for her to catch her breath and relax during a very long series of dances. A dancer with decent lap dancing skills and who smiles sexily and doesn't have a bored look on her face will remain in my mind when none of my favorites are available.
What makes a favorite is a dancer who gives me all her attention from the moment she sits down, and throughout our dance, and makes our time togehter seem like we are only there for each other. Her lap dances have to be very smooth and sexy, with lot of two-way contact. She is also usually very good at teasing.
There is a lot of mutual fondling going on, especially with her breasts. When I am in a non-pasties club, she likes a lot of stimulation of her nipples, by my hands and mouth. While I am feeling her up, is fondling me just as much, rubbing her hands all over my body, especially using her fingers and moth along my crotch to tease me. I am not talking about whipping it out, and getting a BJ, I am just talking of rubbing, fondling or sucking and blowing through my pants.
Except with a exceptionally skilled dancer who is really trying to get her customer to cum in his pants, no matter how long and how vigorously she is grinding what I described is not enough for most guys to get off from a dance, even if we have been going at it for 20 or more songs, non stop, like I occasionally received back when I could get lap dances for $5 to $10 a song. So she had better not be afraid to get me too aroused.
Extras go well beyond what I described, and I rarely get extras unless I happen to be out of state.
I'm in OC, California. It looks like you frequent /live around the Austin SCs. Feel free to pm me for my club if you're in the area.
for a couple weeks. The girls were super desperate for dances and particularly nasty and bitchy crackheads behind closed doors. I will probably never work in another LA club again. Yuck.
The girls are just terrible and the commute was long for me. I probably wouldn't drive out there again to work with snobby girls, but maybe, maybe a different club. And I do realize girls are the competition, but gosh, you don't have to be a bitter , jaded, used up stripper all the damn time. These girls were another breed of irritating.
Some of the other guys posting on here I wouldn't talk to in a normal day.
As far as the male posters on here being attracted to female looks, if you aren't interested in female looks, you aren't a normal guy. Every normal guy is attracted to female looks. As far as getting to know someone, what's on the inside is important but if you visit strip clubs, most people you meet you don't really get to know that well.
But we do fawn over potentially female posters.
There are some pretty obvious fake girls (I miss BBBJ Becky...) but it is always cool to have a female poster. But some of us PLs also maintain a healthy skepticism.
And if you don't dig the idea of extras that's cool. To thine own self be true!
If you wish to remain a "clean" dancer, I suggest you work in a club with a reputation for being clean and don't give into doing extras.
Good luck. The non-extras guys will live you.
I think there are guys out there who are sexually satisfied only knocking boots with the woman who loves them, even as age/pregnancy/illness take their toll on her appearance. For those of us not like that, our "problem" is not being lucky enough to be that kind of guy. Doesn't mean we're the Devil incarnate or anything. Some women go around pissed, thinking we choose to be like that. 'Bout as dumb as thinking gay people choose to be gay, in my book.
+ extras of course cost more $$$ - some custies may not want to pay that much and may be more content w/ the entertainment of LDs and some company
+ some married dudes actually feel that if they just get LDs; then that is not really cheating
w.r.t. to this site:
+ most on this site are hardcore SC goers – so the more one goes to a SC; the more he ends up doing
+ and even on this site; I would venture to say that half; or less; are extras or nothing SCers – may be more of a vocal minority thing.
+ w.r.t. guys on this site – it’s dudes (and lopaw) talking about women an sex – wth you think we were going to be discussing – writing love poems and talking about Martha Stewart – as jackslash mentioned – men talk about women and sex when they are amongst each other; even if they are not SC goers - and the dancers over at stripperweb.com often talk as negative about other dancers as we do here – and btw; you sure do come across as one of those stripperweb posters
If you are in an extras-heavy club; then yeah; it would be rough to compete and you will probably be constantly asked or even expected to give extras – so better to find another club.
Then there are clubs where extras are available; but not necessarily the main thing – so all types of dancers can make $$$ in these clubs.
In most clubs I go to where extras are available – I see way more custies heading to the lap-dance room for LDs than the boom boom room – so that should be a gauge as to whether you can make it in a club where extras are available but not the main thing.
And again w.r.t. guys on this site – there are guys whom go for extras b/c there are dancers whom give extras – you can’t blame a health male for wanting sex nor getting from a willing female – takes two to tango – in fact; I’ve been turned down by dancers for dances b/c these dancers where about extras (and thus the big bucks) or nothing - not the norm – but has happened to me
Sarcasm aside, OP should know that this is a stripclub review site. The serious contributors to DB constitute a VERY small percentage of reviewers. Yet OP appears concerned about how much longer she can continue to make good money doing what she does. The real situation likely falls somewhere between outright alarm, and "don't worry" approach. While tuscl extra seekers may be in the minority, the DB contributors likely visit clubs more often (and spend more $$) than most reviewers, maybe greater than 10 times more than a lot of patrons. So, if hardcore extras seekers constitute 5% of total clubgoers, their much greater level of patronage means that OP may encounter extras seekers ~ 50% of time.
Actually, OP has (or should have) a better idea than we do of how rampant extras seekers are. Tuscler only knows what he(she) and maybe a handful of buds want. OP working 2-5 shifts per week encounters far more customers than we do, so has a larger handle on club patron tastes. (I very rarely strike up conversation with other club patrons.)
1. Playing with/touching boobs, nipples and butt.
2. Touching the outside of your vagina.
3. Finger(s) in your vagina.
4. Grinding a guy, using your butt or boobs, over his pants until he cums.
5. Rubbing a guy with your hand, from outside his pants, until he cums.
6. Reaching into his pants for a handjob until he cums.
7. Pulling his dick out for a handjob.
You've definitely gotten some good feedback already, but I’d like to add my own two cents.
A dancer and I last week were discussing lapdances when she told me that for a certain amount of money she’d get a condom from her locker for a full service dance. I admit the idea was exciting, but I passed; it’s just not what I’m looking for. A dancer who allows more isn't necessarily better. Some dancers are very mechanical in private, which can be off-putting. I like it when she gets close all over, teases, takes it slow, talks to me, and lets her hands run along my legs. And, yes, I enjoy a good lap grind as much as the next guy.
Not all dancers are every guy’s type, and not all approaches are what every guy is looking for. But from my perspective, if you make him feel wanted, allow a little touching, and are honest and consistent about your rules, you’ll attract a loyal following.