Show me that kitty!

I like to see the kitty, but the kitty and alcohol have not been seen together in Michigan for a long time. While the Michigan Liquor Commission has dropped the prohibition on liquor and nude dancing, cities may still prohibit it. My favorite club, the Flight Club in the Detroit suburb of Inkster, started allowing nudity last month, but dancers have the option of performing nude or not. Most dancers have not been showing the kitty, although I have been encouraging it and tipping any dancer who removes her bottoms. These dancers, most of whom are extras-friendly (or extra-friendly) are simply not used to showing off their pussies on stage, and they feel shy.

I can't agree with you more, I almost exclusively visit fully nude clubs for that reason. One of the best parts of the stage show is when the girl slowly strips off her panties.

As for private lap dances i feel a little ripped off if the girl doesn't remove her bottoms in a club that is fully nude

You guys will probably find this surprising, but it really doesn't matter much to me. As long as it's not a pastie club (that's the problem with the clubs in my area), I don't care if it's nude or topless. Don't get me wrong, less clothing is obviously better, but my point is going to a topless club over a nude one isn't a deal breaker for me.

To me, ass and titties are way more appealing to LOOK at than the kitty. Plus, I'm a big believer that on average you'll find better looking dancers working at topless clubs because if there's one part of the body many girls don't like to reveal, it's their kitty.

" When I went to LA and Vegas the girls were topless on stage, it's just not the same."

Don't go to LA & Vegas then if you don't like what you see. STAY with what you like.

In 99% of the local clubs ladies don't go fully nude. Worse, before a change in the law, most girls stripped to full nudity. The withdrawal is TERRIBLE.

@Jackslash - some clubs in Kansas, for various reasons, serve alcohol and full stage nudity. VIP is still topless but some dancers are more accommodating.

@Siege031 "One of the best parts of the stage show is when the girl slowly strips off her panties." Yeah, me too, especially if she's been very seductive up till then.

I like seeing down below too. All the decent nude clubs closed up in western South Carolina. I really miss that. Now I either have to go to the beach or another state. The better lap dances and the better looking girls were all at the topless clubs so I believe strip club managers wrongly thought there wasn't much interest in all nude clubs. Maybe South Carolina just has some stupid laws about contact with an all nude girl and the restrictions are so lame, that not much happens and almost no one spent any money on nude lap dances in this state. That's my reasoning why nude clubs disappeared for the most part from South Carolina even though it is still legal. Not many what to spend money on nude lap dances when it isn't much different than watching from a stage. No money, no good looking girls when they go for the bucks they can get at topless clubs. Without good looking girls, not many customers.

I'd still go for the stage show if there were decent looking girls and byob to save some money.

​I'm with GoV. I'm a boobologist rather than a gynecologist, so showing the kitty is less important to me. But, I do feel cheated if I'm in a nude club (all of my local clubs are), and the dancer on stage doesn't go completely nude. Some are so lame that they only flash their boobage as a means to comply with the topless expectation. I want the top completely removed. For lap dances, here, they're required to be bikini, but some top and/or bottom flashing does occur.

When I'm in clubs in other states that offer nude lap dances as a choice over topless, there's usually an extra charge for the nude dances. I don't buy nude dances in those clubs, and it's been my observation that just a small percentage of customers do. Also, here, if a dancer offers to flash her kitty for an extra tip, I don't partake in that either.

Most of the clubs that I go to in Cali are fully nude. Unless I'm going to a topless bar to watch a fight(have a couple of drinks), then the strip clubs in Cali are nude.

I’m w/ GoVikings also in that a bare kitty is not that big a deal to me. If given the option, I’d prefer full nude but it’s not a requirement 4 me.

All the clubs in south FL are full nude on stage w/ full nude table dances but bottoms-on/topless LDs.

There is a club in south Miami (Showgirls) where the dancers do their 2nd stage rotation on the bar top. In that scenario one gets a really good & different view of the cuchie which I really like.

I'm nude now

I'm spoiled. In 72 years, I have seen my share of vaginas. :) I don't even pay attention to the dancers on stage at my favorite club. I know that I am going to do lot more than look once I get into VIP.

@Club & Papi- I like full nudity including showing pussy. I like it in the context of an already seductive stage routine, not as an end in itself.

However, for the curious, jr gynecologists among us 2 sources:

Femalia - lastgasp.com

Thirty-two full-color photographs of women's genitals reflect the diversity of women's bodies. Therapists, sex educators, women's health clinicians -- and all women -- will find this volume a welcome addition to their libraries. Photography by Michael Rosen, Jill Posener, Tee Corinne, Michael Perry, and Joani Blank.

And yet to be published:

showoffbooks.wordpress.com

I’ll Show You Mine… NOVEMBER 15, 2010 My name is Veronica (Wrenna) Robertson. I am a 35 year old woman who has spent the past 17 years of my life working as an exotic dancer while attaining three university degrees. In this time, I have had the opportunity to witness the evolving relationship women have with their bodies. Plastic surgery has long been considered the norm in the industry, women having opted for breast implants since long before I started dancing. However, new procedures have become available and grown in popularity in this time period. The most surprising trend I have seen in recent years is the growing number of women seeking labiaplasty (surgical reduction of the labia for cosmetic reasons).

When a few women recently asked me to look at their vaginas, stating they were considering labiaplasty because they felt their inner labia were too apparent, they did so apologetically, as if it were somehow wrong to ask. This awareness was startling for me – realizing that even strippers, comfortable being naked around both women and men, do not openly look at or talk about their vaginas. I realized that if strippers are not looking at other women’s vaginas, who is? And if women aren’t looking at each other’s vaginas, where are they getting this sense of what theirs should look like?

In this society where even strippers are reluctant to look at another woman’s vagina, where parents do not show their children accurate pictures of the incredible diversity of female genitalia, young and old alike turn to pornography as an indication of what is normal. However, female actors now routinely undergo surgery to have their inner labia reduced, and magazines often utilize programs such as Photoshop to completely remove the inner labia, giving the vagina the “clamshell” appearance. This is alarming as the society we live in also creates taboos around the discussion and display of both female and male genitalia.

This is damaging on so many levels. It is damaging to the young girls who see these images which do not represent their own bodies. It is damaging to young boys who grow up believing that there is only one appropriate size and shape for a woman’s vagina. It is damaging to both male and female adults who also believe that the clamshell is not only the most attractive, but also by far the most common shape of a vagina. I have decided to do my part in countering this disturbing trend. With the help of my partner, I am publishing a book which accurately and objectively displays the beautiful diversity of the female genitalia. This book will be a hardcover, full colour photo book with life size and true to life colour pictures of the most diverse range of vaginas possible. I currently have models ranging from their early 20s into their early 60s. I am seeking models 19 and older of all ethnicities to participate anonymously in this much needed book. Shooting for the book starts in mid September in Vancouver. The working title for the book is “I’ll Show You Mine”.

The goals of the book are:

1. To show in life size and detail the wide variety of vaginas with the goal of debunking the societal standard which originates primarily in the porn industry and is then perpetuated by the ignorance of women and men;
2. To give a brief glimpse via text into women’s experiences and perspectives on their own vaginas with the goal of allowing other women to know that they are not alone in having issues with or concerns about their vagina;
3. To help break the stigma which allows public display of vaginas only in porn or art photographs. I hope this book ends up displayed proudly and openly on many coffee tables, provoking those who see it to challenge their own ethics and ignorance.

A FINAL NOTE I have often used the word vagina in this document. “Vagina” actually refers to the inside of the female genitalia, whereas the outside visible part, including inner and outer labia and clitoris, is actually called the vulva. However, I use “vagina” since it is most commonly used to describe the entire female genitalia.

You must have gone to topless joints in LA. Why bother when all of the action in the back is at the nude clubs?

@sclvr- I like to get my drink on in the clubs, and in LA there's no alcohol allowed in the nude clubs.

"One of the best parts of the stage show is when the girl slowly strips off her panties". I agree 100% with you Siege.

Yeah that is a big trade off to some folks while clubbing here in LA. Either booze or nudity, but not both. Personally I'll take nudity every time but I understand that there are many who don't really enjoy a stripclub visit without having a drink or two. In that case I'd recommend hitting a topless place first and finishing the evening up with a full nude club.

I hit the joint, then I hit the strip club.

Yeah, I prefer nude. But only a couple of local places don't look the other way when flashing goes on, and the back room is almost always nekkid land.

All other factors equal, full nude is better.

But I'd take topless tow-way contact over nude one-way contact or worse nude air.