Let's just keep it outside the club

I agree that there is an allure to the club and yet I much prefer OTC on a prearranged basis. Part of it comes down to what it is you want. When I'm looking to be with a variety of young women, to check out new talent, to talk with a favorite, I'll take a few hours at a good strip club. But if I want uninhibited sex, long lingering blowjobs where I'm repeatedly brought to the brink and then let down; if I'm looking for lying naked with a gal who's 40 years younger than I and to be able to massage and caress every inch of her beautiful body, then an assignation at a hotel beats a trip to the club. When I've had a BBBJ or even FS at the club the dancer is nervous about getting caught, my dick gets caught in my zipper and the whole experience, while pleasant, is nowhere near the same. So my conclusion is that it depends on what you want. I know there are many readers of this tome who want nothing more than a good lap dance. More power to them. Some like hamburger; others want filet mignon.

I feel ya, Mr. Dugan. I too enjoy the sc vibe, watching the ladies strut their stuff, and the game or hunt for extra this and extra that. There's a satisfaction I get when I hook up with dancers that I don't get from escorts. It could be hustling with the hustlers, the take and give between both parties, the audience(I'd be a liar if I didn't admit to being somewhat of an exhibitionist) or some unknown element yet to be properly known.

I prefer the OTC over ITC because I get more for my money, it's more relaxing, it's on the territory of my choosing, and you get to spend more time with the gal. Lots more. But you can't get that OTC without that ITC. At least from my experience.

For me, OTC is not usually connected with a strip club visit. I will arrange OTC or a club visit. Both in one day is too much. But it is only the concern of the customer and the dancer.

I agree about the relative benefits of OTC vs. ITC. What I meant is that I want it all - lol. I want to be able to enjoy my time in the club and have a great OTC finish. I guess I'm just greedy that way. ;)

Sorry for being redundant. Twice.

@gawker,

'Some like hamburger; others want filet mignon.'

Others, like ol' farmerart here, want the 'bone on Oilman's cut rib eye' done rare, accompanied by all the usual sides.

Rare, spoken like a man who knows quality beef. Me, I prefer liver, with some fava beans and a nice Chianti.

I can't do both. Just too old. LOL. One disadvantage of taking dances out of the club is that they might be too tired from working(dancing, BJs, fucking) to really do a good job OTC.

And as my original ATF said "I can't go to the club and work after I have had an orgasm".

I like both ITC and OTC. Like others have said, not in the same day, usually. I enjoy both experiences. My ATF danced in Las Vegas. I'd travel there on four-day trips. A typical itinerary included seeing her at work one night, an OTC another night, and taking her out to dinner and a show a third night. There was just one occasion where I saw her ITC and OTC in the same night.

My ATF wanted to be exclusive OTC which I had never done before. I never had any dancer OTC let alone on a continual basis. We had a few dates and I realized I missed the club! I agree with the others that the club is a fun experience apart from (although related to) the sex.

So now I see her weekly ITC and arrange the OTC on a separate day.

RickyBoy: " I just heard this the other night from a girl that I finally cracked after several visits where she played hard to get"

"cracked"? "hard to get"? You're never going to get it, are you, RickyBoy? Looks like you are a complete idiot for life.

@Dougster: LOL, I guess that I'll just have to muddle along as best I can. ;)

@Everyone who said they don't like both in one night: I get what you're saying and it is certainly more difficult as the years go by. The girl who I hooked up with the other night made me wait until 1:00 and then wanted a ride someplace else after the event. I can't easily do those types of nights anymore, especially after I have been clubbing all night. But I have to say there is something hot about watching a beautiful girl dancing and knowing that I am the one who is leaving with her later.

I have never had much luck with ladies OTC. For all the arrangements I have made, only about 10% of them worked out. And I find that OTC is really not necessary these days. The VIP areas in the clubs I go to are very nice and very private, with couches big enough to lay down. And I get everything I could ever need or want in the VIP, so there is no need to arrange OTC. Also, I tend to be extemporaneous when it comes to spending time with a young lady. OTC encounters require a lot of planning ahead of time. I just like to go into a club, find a hot lady, take her in the back and have my way with her.

runnoft: "I have never had much luck with ladies OTC. For all the arrangements I have made, only about 10% of them worked out."

Sounds like a guy in need of RickyBoy's The System.

I prefer OTC. It costs less and lasts much longer. And my house is much more pleasant and relaxing than the club. Yes, I bring dancers back to my house. I'm single, I live alone, and I have video security cameras on the doors so if anyone let's themselves in when I'm not home I'll have a full color video to turn over to the police.

I hate it when I just arrive at a club and girls come up to me and say, let's head out to a hotel. I usually say, I just got here. Even weirder is a girl asking to meet up who is not a dancer and I never saw her before. That was around 3 or 4 years ago so I probably won't run into her again, I have tipped a dancer a dollar while she was on stage shortly after arriving at a club and she came over and she told me about her rates at a hotel. She wanted to leave with me. That was at a club I haven't been to in over a year or two. I just arrived and happened to tip her a dollar. I was surprised she thought that meant I wanted to leave with her.

I suspect that could have been a case of mistaken identity. Some guy probably tipped her big expecting her to come over and talk. Then she walks right over to me. He was probably watching and thinking WTF? Sometimes I think if you sleep with one dancer in a club, other dancers will try to sleep with you without you even suggesting it. Makes me wonder what is said in the dressing rooms.

^What a STUD!!!

Rick, let me guess, you were one of those kids who played more with the box than the toy that came in the box.

@shark: I've had that happen as well with a couple of established OTC girls. I very nuch dislike that as part of my reason for visiting a club is to, well, enjoy the club. If I just wanted a quick fuck in a hotel room I could have called a girl from BP.

Haven't popped my OTC cherry yet. Too many times of lining up a room and waiting and getting stood up. When you are in a relationship, the chances you get are few and far between, like getting the planets to align just right. And then you line something up and they don't show because flakiness is part of the job description. I don't have much of a desire for OTC any more.