FONDL, I was responding to your dismay over waif's derogatory connotation. I disagree that either term is totally divorced from its dictionary meaning. "Spinner" has roots in things that spin. "Waif" has roots in starving orphans.
Chandler, we readily accept "spinner" to mean something totally different than what the dictionery says, so why not "waif?" I've seen the term used to describe women in reviews but I'm not sure what it means, which is why I asked the question. BTW, the latest "Men's Fitness" magazine refers to stationery bikes as "spinners." I guess that's what my gym's spinning class is all about. And here I was all set to sign up, expecting a room full of cute young girls ready to teach me something new.
Don't blame us, FONDL. Check a dictionary. Waif literally means a stray or homeless child (girl or boy). "Waifish" or "waif-like" have come to mean sort of weakly and bookish young woman, but only recently, I believe.
You both seem to think of "waif" as a derogatory term. I've had some good times in clubs with girls I'd consider waifs, which I think of as being that undernourished look that you so often see. I always associate it with drug use but I'm sure that's not always true. But I never associated "spinner" with being super fit or stacked, I just thought it meant tiny, which many waifs also are.
I think of waifs (waives?) as being thin, pale, quiet, and generally neurasthenic, sort of like Joni Mitchell or Winona Ryder. I think of spinners as being more like cute little vivacious cheerleader types, short and stacked.
I think this is totally a matter of connotation, though.
OK, we seem to agree on what a spinner is. So what's a waif? Is that the same as a spinner or are all thin young-looking girls waifs regardless of height and all little girls spinners regardless of age? In other words, are all or just some waifs also spinners, and are all spinners waifs? Is one a subset of the other?
Chandler, I like small strippers because I'm fairly small and having a big girl on my lap just isn't very confortable. Often the smaller ones look younger too which I like. But I agree, it's often hard to tell when they are in those dumb shoes. "I met a pretty Funny Girl dancing in tall shoes. She smiled a smile that said hello and chased away my blues." Sorry, just felt like throwing that in - whenever I think about stripper shoes that pops into my head.
FONDL: I'm the opposite. If there's a size I look for, it's average height although thin. But I often wind up with "spinners" or very tall girls. In real life, I've never cared for short girls. I can't recall ever dating a girl under about 5'5". In strip clubs, however, height is distorted. With customers sitting and the girls in heels or up onstage, all the girls look taller, so "spinners" look almost normal height. I'm always surprised when a girl I had thought was taller stands next to me without her heels.
I always assumed that's what the term meant although I haven't heard it in many years and I was never really sure, it's an old term that's maybe making a comeback. That's the kind of girl I look for too, the petite ones who look really young. Funny thing though, none of my faves have met that description. Guess I'll just have to keep looking.
Last night at the club, I was talking with my latest fave, sort of a Christina Aguilera clone who might be 5'2" in stockings.
"Has anybody ever called you a spinner?" I asked.
She lit up, "Yeah!"
Me: "What the fuck is it supposed to mean?"
Her: "You don't know?"
Me: "I've heard different explanations."
Her: "It's cause you can spin them around..."
Me: "So?"
Her: "What you do, you lie down on the floor, and then you spin her around on your dick!"
Me: "I think I need to have it demonstrated."
Her: "That's gonna cost you."
Me: "Sounds like fun."
Her: "Yeah, I guess."
Me: "Not that you've ever...so where did hear about this?"
Her: "I dunno...guys."
Me: "Geeks be havin' some overactive imaginations."
Her: "Not as dirty as yours."
Me: "Well, you just got a new nickname"
Her: "You're still Shithead."
Me: "That's Shitty Shithead to you, Spinner."
I always thought that spinner referred to easy transfer from cowgirl to reverse cowgirl, a maneuver which is certainly more easily (although not exclusively) done by more petite girls.
I think of gymnasts and ballerinas as having the archtypical "spinner" bodies. Reese Witherspoon would be a good example of someone in the public eye who seems to fit in that category.
I absolutely love women that would be defined as "spinners." I'm a sucker for a long pair of legs, but there's something about those perky little breasts and tiny tight bottoms that drives me insane.
Any guesses which kind of dancer my current ATF is????
EasyEd: I checked the locations of those stripclubs.net Google hits. One from Nebraska, and all the rest from east of the Mississippi. So much for being a West Coast term. I'll have to take your word on the California usage. The comparative difficulty of spinning girls of various sizes during sex is not an issue my vocabulary has needed to address.
Maybe it's a West Coast term. It's pretty commonly used out here in Califoria to describe petite women. You know, the kind you can easily "spin" around during sex.
Now for my two cents. I first heard the term, “spinner”, in a joke, some years ago. It was referring to a woman who was small and without legs. She would hang from the ceiling lower herself on the guys cock, and then he would spin her. I will assume legs were added and small women were still referred to as spinners.
I think a spinner refers to the type of body you normally find in a "spin class" at your local gym. The physical descriptions in the posts above sound right. Small, tight bodies that have worked off all the fat, leaving them lean. Hope this helps!
In the world of escorts a "spinner" does refer to a very small, petite woman. Generally about 5' and around 100 lbs. I think (although I cannont verify) it's because they are so tiny you can pick them up, spin them upside down, and do a standing 69.
I rarely hear the term, but 'spinning' is also a term used by acid/hard drug users. May also just be a more polite way of calling her 'crack-whore thin'.
If it just meant 'petite to the point of being spinable', why are both adjectives so commonly used consecutively to describe the same thing.
In any case, I like the legged, legless, and vertically-spinable definitions much better.
Train, Chandler and Chaitown got it right. A spinner is a very small/petite girl that is so small she can be spun around a hard dick like it's a "sit and spin".
Bones: I'd wear out that "falling asleep" excuse fast if I used it for every typo I posted. You're better off saying you meant to do that, and taking credit for starting a new catchphrase.
Funny, since this thread, I've noticed "waif" used a lot more with no derogatory connotation, so I should apologize to FONDL my rather priggish remarks upthread.
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I think this is totally a matter of connotation, though.
"Has anybody ever called you a spinner?" I asked.
She lit up, "Yeah!"
Me: "What the fuck is it supposed to mean?"
Her: "You don't know?"
Me: "I've heard different explanations."
Her: "It's cause you can spin them around..."
Me: "So?"
Her: "What you do, you lie down on the floor, and then you spin her around on your dick!"
Me: "I think I need to have it demonstrated."
Her: "That's gonna cost you."
Me: "Sounds like fun."
Her: "Yeah, I guess."
Me: "Not that you've ever...so where did hear about this?"
Her: "I dunno...guys."
Me: "Geeks be havin' some overactive imaginations."
Her: "Not as dirty as yours."
Me: "Well, you just got a new nickname"
Her: "You're still Shithead."
Me: "That's Shitty Shithead to you, Spinner."
I think of gymnasts and ballerinas as having the archtypical "spinner" bodies. Reese Witherspoon would be a good example of someone in the public eye who seems to fit in that category.
Any guesses which kind of dancer my current ATF is????
"Details: 5'0" 100 lbs dark-skinned black with well-proportioned 'spinner' style body."
"Also got dances from Tina, a very curvy blond and Marina, a petite little brunette that one might call 'a spinner'"
"God, what a hot, tight little body. Spinner personified."
"Raven(nice little spinner)"
Apparently, these spinners tend to spin off to god knows where. They're difficult to track down:
"Anybody know if that little spinner Yanna still works during the day, and if not, where."
"Went a few months ago to see a spinner named Cassie during the day....is she still there?"
"She's a very hot, petite spinner type. Anyone know if she is still working there? I'd like to stop in and see her again"
"use To Be a spinner Here named dixie. she still around? was very fun outside the club too!"
By the way, does anyone know why Google domain searches of tuscl.com don't work anymore? Not for me at least.
If it just meant 'petite to the point of being spinable', why are both adjectives so commonly used consecutively to describe the same thing.
In any case, I like the legged, legless, and vertically-spinable definitions much better.
Just thinking outloud,
DG
Funny, since this thread, I've noticed "waif" used a lot more with no derogatory connotation, so I should apologize to FONDL my rather priggish remarks upthread.