Vacation with your ATF?

Knock yourself out,send photos.

Fucking helps if you are rich or have the income to do it.

Me, I'd have to win the lottery to have a vacation like Art does.

Thats very true, Im sure you could get with player11 & get some of his VIP trailer girls for 500 for a weekend.

I don't pay strippers to spend time with me other than for sex. I do that by the hour. If a dancer wants to have dinner or anything else it's has to be because she truly likes my company and not for my money.

Now I would pay for air fare, lodging & meals. So far I have not done it because the few that I would have wanted to take could not get away for various reasons, like kids.

I've done this in the distant past (more than a decade ago) and only paid for expenses plus some "spending money" roughly equivalent to what the sex alone would have cost back home.

I took my old ATF on a couple pleasure trips. I did not pay her for her time, but I paid all the expenses of airfare, hotel, meals, and entertainment. She seemed to appreciate the free trips, and told me she had never stayed at such nice hotels and eaten at such nice restaurants. Motel 6 and McDonald's are more her style.

There are some downsides to traveling with an ATF, or at least an ATF like mine. First, she looked like a stripper even when dressed in conservative clothes. (The long blonde hair and big tits were a give-away). Second, guys were always talking to her, and I could tell she loved the attention. Third, she drank heavily all the time. Fourth, she would get very loud in public, especially when drunk.

Of course, she was a lot more fun than a sober, quiet, modest librarian.

The couple times I've done this I handled it the same way Mr Ermita described. In all but one instance the experience was fucking awesome and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

My only caution would be--and you already know this I'm sure--that you set the proper expectations about finances before you take off on your trip.

BTW one of my weekend get aways was St Lucia and that was a total blast.

I'm with Shadow. I've never taken an overnight trip/vacation with a dancer, but I've spent afternoons and evenings with them going to movies, shows, dinners, etc. I've never paid them for their time while doing so. Just paying the usual expenses is all I do. I spent enough money on them in their clubs and doing conventional OTC sessions. They appreciated just taking them out for a date. I think you're risking too much if you feel she should be paid something just for her time while the two of you are on vacation together.

That money that I pay her for her time includes tickets, her stay, spending money. She is at 1000-2000 a night earner so its stands to reason that I should cover that cost. I am more than happy to do that especially on a Thurs-Sun basis which are her best nights. Im nit giving her 6000 and still paying extra for everything else that would be over the top.

Just don't take Carolynne. She will want to fuck the cabana boy while you are checking out and paying the bill with your Amex Black Card.

Lion:

First, I am envious as hell that you can pull off such an arrangement.

But, no woman is worth $1000-$2000 a night and if you are paying that much a night for her either you are rich and $1000 to you is like $100 to average people OR you have a severe case of the PL disease.

Should my ATF jump at the chance to go with me on "vacation" I would pay for all expenses, airfare, hotels, etc., and even a small gift of cash, but in case you did not know, independent contractors are not "paid" for not working.

Lying around the pool in a bikini, soaking up the sun, eating and drinking all they want on your tab, occasionally having sex, shopping, and seeing the sights, man that's not work, that's a FREE vacation. And you still want to pay her for missing work?

Now if you are going make her do lap dances all night.....................

No no im not paying her that much, I am saying she can make that much every night at her club. So if I am taking her out of the club and possibly the country then it stands to reason that I should pay her for her loss. That payment comes in the form of tickets, meals, hotel, entertainment, and I will give her a n envelope of cash as well. Last time I took her to the derby she didnt take the cash as I bought her an expensive outfit and other things. But I still want to plan for it. when I see her in the club I give her 500-600 depending onwhat we do.

Do what you wanna do and take her on vacation. Some people here might think that you're paying too much. That's a matter of perspective and options.

The best part of a pay for sex relationship is that part of the tab is for her to go home. I'd rather spend the weekend with my wife who golfs and loves deep sea fishing and pay a local hooker if we feel the need for a 3 some.

I've traveled twice with my ATF. The first was to Vegas and we went first class. Suite at the Bellagio, helicopter ride to the Grand Canyon, etc. there were lots of other men traveling with their nieces, so we didn't stand out. I gave her a grand for gambling. She is an addict and got "take home" doses of methadone for the 3 day trip. Other than $400 on the room charge from the spa, there were no surprises.
Another time we went to Myrtle Beach and I quickly learned she had no "take home" doses and it was horrible. I've been to Mrtle Beach hundreds of times but never had seen the underbelly of whores, dealers, pimps, and scum like I met in her search for drugs. One time she bolted from my car thinking she saw a dealer. I drove around the block for a 1/2 hour, got pulled over by police thinking I was trolling for whores. I explained that my gf and I had a fight, she took off and left her cell phone behind. They smirked and told me to be careful. I didn't pay for anything but air, car,and 5 $40 bags. One big clusterfuck.

Of course, she was a lot more fun than a sober, quiet, modest librarian.

Jackslash, sir, I must take issue with your above comment. I dated a librarian for a little while. She was anything but quiet. ;)

Lionshare, if you have the cash, go for it.

I have done this twice with my Toronto sweetie, each time at an isolated resort in Hawaii. She griped a little about the no TV, no internet, no cell phone rules of our resorts but that was one of the main attractions of these resorts for me - complete disconnect from my company and employees. Sweetie quickly got over her grumpiness after she got used to the excellent food, lovely beaches, sweet cabins, etc. Within a couple days of our arrival she was initiating the sex - perfectly fine with me!

The first time that we did this I slipped an envelope of cash in her jacket as we got back to Canada. When she found the cash when she got back to Toronto she phoned me and blasted me for doing that, saying that the holiday itself was more than enough for her. Second time we went to Hawaii I took her shopping in Honolulu while waiting for our return flight to Canada. Sweetie loved that! Funnily enough, I got a blast out of that shopping excursion, too.

Later this week when I am finished my Toronto business, sweetie and I are going to Porto-Vecchio on Corsica for another short holiday together. I speak French. Sweetie speaks Italian. We will also be spending a few days in Italy walking the Cinque Terre trail along Italy's Ligurian coast.

I won't tell you the cost of these excursions. Suffice to say that they cost in the multi tens of thousands of dollars. More than worth it to me. I get mentally recharged after a long period of heavy stress work and Mr. Wood gets all the opportunities that he needs to 'blow' off whatever he needs to 'blow' off.

Sounds great Art. I went to Bogart's and got a blowjob for $40 and a Burrito Supreme at Taco Bell for $1.99

I only pay them money for services rendered - sex. My contributions are on an hourly basis. If they want dating - dinner, movie well I will not pay money for that and very few takers.

Taking one on a trip one would have to take her costs - airfare, hotel, meals, shopping money and arrive at an average pop which made the trip worthwhile. I would want to fuck her all nite.....and most of the day.

I could give a crap less about paying them for their time unless its sex.

If you have money to burn, go for it. I personally have absolutely no plans to ever pay a dancer for her time when she didn't do anything. I also don't plan on spending much time alone with someone unless we already seem compatible with small getaways. One nice thing about traveling is that if you're already sleeping with her, you know what you'll be doing when you get back to the hotel unless you partied way too late.

For some people spending $5,000+ on a weekend or 4 day is out of their range... for some it's affordable, and if you enjoy it go ahead and do it... it's your money.

"I won't tell you the cost of these excursions. Suffice to say that they cost in the multi tens of thousands of dollars. More than worth it to me. I get mentally recharged after a long period of heavy stress work and Mr. Wood gets all the opportunities that he needs to 'blow' off whatever he needs to 'blow' off."

Maybe this thread should be retitled the: "Millionaires vacations with Dancer" Geez LOL

At 1st I thought it was too much $$$. But if you are truly enjoying yourself w/ her then that is what counts.

If we expect a dancer to treat us right and give us what we want/need – then shouldn’t they receive what they want /need?

I’d just be careful not to put her in too high a pedestal and spend on her like she was “the most interesting woman in the world”. I don’t know your ATF and she may be a wonderful gal; but many a ATF relationships have gone up in flames after the PL has spent thou$ands on her.

Farmerart, thanks for the advice. I have decided on a pretty isolatedprivate resort in the Keys. I dont plan on doing much except sleeping, eating, swimming in the ocean, maybe some surf fishing, and lits of sex.

Papi, she is great for me at least. I have put a spending limit on her though so once I hit that limit, I will find a new one. Unless she continues to suprise and.delight me then maybe ill keep her around longer. I suspect Ill lose intresy and want something new eventually though.

did this only once with ATF. paid for all expenses (first class, 5 star resort) 2 bedroom suite to allow her some down time. gave her a few hundred each day for personal expenses but nothing up front for sex. spent a week in Hawaii. she fucked and sucked my brains out in appreciation.

Well after meeting with my ATF last night we have come to terms. Turns out I wont be giving her anywhere near what I thought I was. All I am doing is paying for expenses, giving he a pre trip shopping spree for new beach clothes, and some pocket change.

Why so cheap you ask? Because she invited her friend who I met last night and now she only has to do half the work.

So to wrap this up Lionshare, ATF, and smoking hot new friend on Palm Island in Keys for three days. Its going to be epic, and then I think Ill retire from this game. Nh

I wish you luck but I can sure see put falls when it comes to third wheels.

Shadow, I agree but the trial run last night was terrific. Not that its sustainable over a long weekend. However, I asked myself whether I could live with myself if I didnt give it a try. Afterall it could be a once in a life time experience.

"I'm thinking 4-6 grand is fair for a Thursday-Sunday mini vacation to the Fl. keys, or St Lucia."

I dunno...I haven't read all the responses, but....and I don't want to be too negative here....

You are actually going to PAY a girl between $4,000 and $6,000 to spend 4 days with you on a fun vacation that most people would give their left nut to have?

And that sounds rational to you?

And let me get this real clear...

You're ALSO going to pay for both your and her airfare, meals, expenses? Is that correct?

Really, dude, let me ask you this cuz I'm absolutely dumbfounded on this one...

Seriously, are you that repulsive that you've got to lay out that kind of money to get a girl to spend a fun vacation with you? Because, it seems to me that you could spend a couple of nights bar hopping with REAL girls and find a couple of girls who would gladly go with you, and might even chip in.

Jerkison, I pretty average in the looks department. I have no interest in bar hopping and looking for girls. I am not paying much more than I would pay having a regular girlfriend.

I like strippers, and I like partying with strippers. I can afford to party with them as much as I want. So I find value and intrique in spending a weekend on a private island with a private beach with two knock out strippers.

Im ok with this, and they are ok with this. They also know what I expect of them. So instead of me pampering a civilian girl and trying to make her happy. I will have two strippers pampering me all weekend.

If you dont like it, you could just ignore this thread instead of insulting people. Im good with what I do, I just thought it was an interesting topic to discuss to see what other folks have done.

I once took her to Key West with me. It was a business trip for each of us. It cost me nothing other than a couple of meals.

Right on Mr Lion!!!

You're the man and personally I hope your adventure pans out the way you hope. Having done this a couple times myself the only advice I would tender is to be flexible and go with the flow. In my experience true enjoyment is like holding an eel. The tighter your grip the harder it is to hold.

Take care and have a blast...

Lionshare, live it up.

@Lionshare,

2 strippers at the same time? Have you ever done this before? Just the thought of it scares the crap out of me.

You're a better man than I.

Thanks for the support gents, I will be writing an article about it once its over. Its only fair to share the experience with the board. Maybe then the doubters will understand, or perhaps I will learn a valuable lesson.

Farmerart, only itc not otc. I plan on doing a trial otc session before hand at the local casino here. That way I can get a feel for the interactions, and possible snafus. I agree its risky, but as the kids say YOLO.

I would definitely think about doing this if I made a little bit more money and could spare the spending cash. Sounds like an awesome trip. Enjoy, Lionshare!

Jerkison, you didnt read where I said I wont be paying that much. I could have if needed, but turns out the trip itself with a pre shopping spree, for them both. Im going to give them both an envelope with some cash in it also but not because they are forcing me to. Much like Farmerart did with his sweetie, which is where the idea came from to begin with.

Dude, is criticism really THAT fucking painful for you? Like most kids on this board? Geezus, you guys go freakin' ballistic if someone dares to criticize you. Can't you grow a pair and take your hits like a man, and, hey, maybe even ADMIT that someone who criticizes you might actually have a point? Is that so freakin' painful that you can't even consider it?

Good lord, ladies, why not try this:

"Yeah, I know, it really is a pathetic thing I'm doing, and I realize I'm a douchebag for kissing some chicks ass like that and paying all my money just so she'll be nice to me. But I'm working on it, and I hope to be a better person some day".

Do you guys post on here SOLELY to get everyone to "support" you and tell you how wonderful you are even if you're being a dick? Some douchebag drives like a maniac thru the streets, but gets pissed if someone says it was a douchebag move.

Okay, Lionshare, I take back everything I said. Give her all your freakin' money, give her a wonderful vacation, and convince yourself she really likes being with you...because you really are just an awesome person. Feel better?

Y'know, for some reason all of this reminds me of once when I was flipping channels and saw what's her name...the black talk show host who was a fashion model years ago....doesn't matter...oh wait, Tyra Banks.

Anyway the show had an entire herd of huge, fat women. The whole point of the show was to showcase FAT PRIDE or some such insanity, so these fat fucking whales how they should convince themselves how beautiful they were, and how everyone should support each other and tell each other how beautiful they are...even though they're a bunch of fat fucking cows with rolls of blubbering fat.

And that's all because these women cannot stand to have the least bit of criticism directed at them...they can't accept that maybe they are fat, ugly fucking cows who should stop eating so much and go for a fucking walk once in a while.

There are a lot of people like that nowadays...

Jerk, this is a board about strippers and what people do with strippers. People post topics to share their thoughts and stories. That is the purpose of a discussion board.

If you read through the thread I already admitted that it might be a bad idea, and Ill either have a great time or learn a valuable lesson.


Apparently the only thing you are good for is criticism an angst. Thats ok, critism is neccesary in life. But seeing as thats really the only value you bring to this board, you should consider maybe adding value to a topic once in a while. Maybe post an interesting topic or make a good point. Instead you attack on every thread. Thats cool, thats what trolls do. Dont hate on me because I like strippers and I like spending lots of money on them. If I didnt like that I wouldnt be on a site about strippers geared towards customers of said strippers.

I dont mind the critism at all buddy, and I was just giving you a response to your critism. So until you add some value to this board I suggest you steer away from my posts and topics, since they will mainly be about spending lots of money on strippers. Apparently, you frown upon such acts on a site based on spending money on strippers.

Word!

Spending time with a stripper on an isolated resort sounds like hell. She better be damn interesting. Unless you're in your 20s how much fornication (with the same gal) can a guy tolerate? Get a local stripper/escort in Waikiki and live it up for a few days. Then back to civilization.