Stripper Judgment

looneylarry
After reading all of these threads all this time about ITC activities and covered or non covered, etc., it just occurred to me: what about the judgment of these girls? After all the preliminaries and the walk back to the VIP or CR or whatever they call it, do you ever wonder about their judgment? Is that mainly what you are trying to gauge as you scout them, not only whether it will be a good return on your investment, but whether they are reliable or not?

I suppose we assume that they have more to lose than we do if they get caught and therefore they aren't going to do anything at a certain time or in a certain area that would cause them to get caught, so we just follow their lead. But what if they aren't that slick, or are pushing the envelope too much, or are so desperate that they take chances they shouldn't, or are under the influence of something that affects their ability to make good decisions? I have been with some dancers that were not thinking straight and nearly got us both caught--it turned out that I was the one that noticed the management starting to sniff around.

There is all this talk about knowing whether the club is an extras club or not--I worry about whether it is not exactly one or the other. If you pick the wrong girl, she may take too many chances. What really happens if management catches you? Do the girls get canned and the customer thrown out? Worse? I have had girls tell me they know where all the cameras are and which staff are "safe", but I guess I'm taking their word for it.

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txtittyfan
12 years ago
My main worry is if they will provide the entertainment I am expecting.
It is not that difficult to prevent a dancer from pushing the envelope if you so choose.
Clackport
12 years ago
I am fearful of management catching me ITC, that's why OTC is the best option.
shadowcat
12 years ago
I've never worried about it. Getting thrown out for being on the receiving end, is the worst that can happen to the customer. No club is gonna call the cops. In the few cases that I am familiar with, the worst that has happened to the entertainer is a suspension. In those cases that I am familiar with, the customer didn't get kicked out.
deogol
12 years ago
My opin is that "ITC" or "OTC" is not stripping. If they engage in such things, they are already in the least breaking rules, in the worst, breaking the law.

I also know that a lot of girls tend to get lost in their stripper persona. As "Galaxy" they are willing to do things that as "Laura" they would not.

Most of a criminal bent, are not all that "slick."
rickdugan
12 years ago
Almost everything that shadow said. I've been caught a few times over the years and the stuff that I was involved in was fairly heavy duty. I was never even thrown out. Clubs value paying customers too much and, even in the tighter clubs, I cannot imagine a situation where the club would want the attention of LE.

As for the girls, I have no idea what happened to them. It wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them was kicked out, but these weren't regular haunts of mine so I really don't know.

Club_Goer_Seattle
12 years ago
I only once did I ever see a club call the cops. It wasn't over something a dancer did while with a customer. A dancer threw a temper tantrum after she got off stage, and no one in the building could subdue her, so the owner called the cops. I stopped counting after 20 cops entered the club. Later, I saw that dancer being loaded into an ambulance in the parking lot. Apparaently she was under the influence of something.
Stiletto25
12 years ago
I'd agree with deogal.

Ive not had too many experiences with girls getting caught inside the club unless they danced for a cop, but outside the club, I've known more than a few fellow dancers get their hotel doors busted down by police. Two of the girls found out that it was the front desk person who called the police. These were deja vu clubs so management found out and fired them
jackslash
12 years ago
In the clubs I generally visit, no one is ever "caught." The clubs provide a venue for the strippers to do whatever with customers in the private VIP booths or rooms. Nobody is snooping.

As for stripper judgment, I don't think they have much. Would a hot young girl with good judgment have sex with me?
DandyDan
12 years ago
No one ever gets caught at any of the clubs I visit, because either they are so strict no one tries anything, which is most clubs I visit, or else management doesn't really care what goes on, which is what my favorite club is like. I know at one of the strict clubs I've been to, they had girls who forgot what the rules are, did some extras and immediately got fired, but nothing that brought in the cops.
georgmicrodong
12 years ago
Let me get this straight, there's a set of girls who provide extras, e.g. suck strangers' dicks and swallow their jizz minutes, at most hours, after meeting them, and you're thinking their judgement about *where* and *when* to do that might not be completely sound, right?

Gosh. Let me think about that for a second...
pabloantonio
12 years ago
If dancers had any judgement they would have never become dancers.

If we had any judgement, we would have never entered this underworld of sex, drugs, alcohol, broken hearts, lost love, and wasted money.

Damn I love my ATF.
lopaw
12 years ago
Hasn't been an issue. I screen carefully, and I try to never get too hot & heavy with any dancer that is totally trashed on booze or drugs.
motorhead
12 years ago
GMD is right. This whole thread is funny. (looney?)

Many dancers I know, or should that be most dancers?, were pregnant at 15, dropped out of school at 16, liberally use illegal drugs, drink and drive, then at the end of the day goes back home to their unemployed BF who beats them and takes their money, and a thread is written about their judgment? Huh, next topic: NFL players and their judgement.

sharkhunter
12 years ago
If she has std's I would be concerned. If she's about to take you in the back for a lap dance and suddenly tells you that she wants to be a porn star, you might have a really good lap dance but she may get fired.
Who knows, you may be a porn star already if the club sold the film to a porn company.

If she says she routinely drives 95 mph all the way from another state to work at the club every week and the cops threatened to arrest her, then no. It sounds like her judgement is good. Why in the world would you want to question the judgement of a fearless stripper? Now if she's in her 20's and doesn't have at least one kid and an unemployed boyfriend, that would be strange. I might question her judgement then. She sounds like an unusual dancer. She might even be working on some job skills to get a better job.
Alucard
12 years ago
This should be about the judgement of the customer NOT the dancer.
SemiCrazy
12 years ago
My experience in over twenty years of going to strip clubs all over the U.S. but mostly from Texas east:
What is allowed,legal or not, in one club may be prohibited in another and vice-versa. Even in extras clubs what is and isn't supposed to be on the menu can be highly variable. I've been in clubs that allow BJs but FS is strictly off limits. I've been other places where FS is allowed as long as it is very discreet but the dancers face isn't allowed below the customer's waist. There are clubs where management takes a "stricter" official stance while at the same time the club is laid out in a manner that makes enforcement impossible. Most clubs want to create the illusion of plausible deniability if LE ever cracks down.
If the dancer is cooperating with or initiating the prohibited behavior and you get caught the worst that will happen is a bouncer will tell you to stop doing whatever you're supposed to be doing. I did have one imply if I wanted to keep my arms attached to my body I needed to stop touching the dancer, but this was in an air dance factory many years ago. Most of the time if they do anything at all they'll just make enough noise to let you know they're checking on you and then step up the patrol until your dance is over. In places with cameras you will probably never know if anyone saw or cares what went on. The dancer will be disciplined (anything from yelled at to fined to suspended to fired) out of view of the customer, and usually not until the end of the shift or at least until the customer has left.
On the other hand, if you are attempting activities the dancer does not want to participate in you may be warned the first time. For any further offenses you will be asked to leave, probably assisted to the door by several security goons and quite possibly bounced on the pavement a few times upon arrival to the parking lot.
Of course there is always a slim chance that there are undercover LEOs (dancers or customers)in the club that management is unaware of, and if they observe you doing something you shouldn't you could suffer some consequences. In practice, most strip club raids I'm aware of involved mostly drug charges and sometimes indecency charges against dancers or other club employees without any arrests of club patrons unless they were involved in the drugs. The physical evidence of the drug charges is a lot easier to prove in court and gets the publicity the politicians or LE agency wants so they can posture in the public eye and claim they're fighting/shutting down the strip clubs.
Alucard
12 years ago
Of course, the "BEST" judgement would be to ONLY have sex with a woman who you have run a thorough background, medical and genetic check on and who has signed an agreement not to sue you. LOL

Not likely to happen.
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