I know I should feel bad about it, but I just can't bring myself to do so.
Bareback. Her, me, both of us. Her argument for doing it? "You're clean, I'm clean, you can't get me knocked up, it's your birthday, and I'm tired of tasting and feeling rubbers. Besides, I'm going to give 'J' a chance to show me what he's got next weekend, so I'd rather do this for you before that, just in case."
How could I argue with that? So, the last two times, it's been raw, and it's been awesome.
On top of that, when I asked her if starting up with him meant she wasn't going to come see me anymore, she said "Unless it gets a lot more serious than I think it will, I'll still planning on taking your money any time you want to give it up."
On the other hand, she's still a normal person...LOL...like everyone else. So, there's a good chance you'll be fine. LOL! At least you got to enjoy sex the way it was meant to be enjoyed. Best of luck to you.
GMD do you know for a FACT that this Dancer is clean & can't get pregnant? I understand desire to have intercourse uncovered. It just SIMPLY Feels so much better.
Is this "J" another customer? Is he someone MORE important to her than you? Is he a civilian male friend of hers that she may fall in love with?
If you nervous, get tested. If your pretty much 100% sure she is clean, you're OK.
As to her claim to be unable to conceive, is she on birth control of some sort or has she had a Hysterectomy or her tubes tied?
What happens between her & you & this "J" is the business of you three. I won't call you a sucker like tigerfan3 nor say your wrong to have had uncovered intercourse. That was & has been a decision made between you and this dancer. As to tigerfan3's claim that she is using you...Well only YOU know whether that is true or not.
@Alucard: Of course I don't know for a fact that she's clean. But, I have reason to believe she's been honest about her history, and the regular tests are indicative, if not absolute.
As for the pregnancy thing, I know she can't get pregnant from *me*. :) I've been shooting blanks for 15 years.
'J' is her current potential boyfriend. She's sweet on him and wants it to take up a notch.
Of *course* she's using me. Just like I'm using her.
@pabloantonio: I'm still a little bedazzled by the whole thing. :) Of course, it's a bad idea, and if she goes through with her plans for J, we'll be going back to our usual safer routine. It just feels so much better.
@sinclair: Nah. He's right. I am a sucker, and she suckered me. We'll see what happens.
It seems that one of our TUSCL members is educated in religious ministry. Perhaps he can step forward with religious counseling and give you absolution.
One of my favorites is now "dating" one of the club managers. The last time I saw her, she told me that she could not give me a bj that day since he was working, but she would still make me happy. After 1 song, she told me to keep an eye out and knelt down and gave me a fantastic bbbj.
georg, I am certainly not going to beat you up about this. I had my own bareback 'slippage' at New Years in Hawaii with my Toronto dancer. I just had my third test and so far, no problems; but Doc Joanne insists on monthly tests until June so............
I got back in the saddle yesterday (fully covered) in Vancouver for my first 'oil change' since my 'slippage' event. Just isn't the same, is it, georg?
I've done this before, many years ago, and I'm still alive. Not that I recommend it. You make your choices and take your chances. Remember, a safe life is a boring life.
You may think of yourself as a pathetic loser pabloantonio. I DON't think of myself that way & I am NOT one!
"I've done this before, many years ago, and I'm still alive. Not that I recommend it. You make your choices and take your chances. Remember, a safe life is a boring life"
I'll bet there are a few persons here who identify with this statement.
@trickystick: one of my favs told me her husband also works at this particular xxxtras club. I can't believe he doesn't know she puts out I VIP. He has to just not care, right? Much like your manager situation.
@pabloantonio: Were I not an atheist, that might be some comfort: :))
WRT her new boyfriend, last week we were at a club where one of her dancer friends (who used to work at the club my ATF worked at) and the three of us were talking about him. My ATF revealed that she'd told J about me, that I was a friend that she'd met while dancing, and that I take her to dinner and sometimes a club, and "help her out" with some money when I do. At the very same instant, the dancer friend and I both said, "And he *believes* that?"
@Art: Well, the folks in hell are certainly going to be the more interesting group, eh?
Well, george. Good news and bad. I talked with the Satan Man. He said. COME ON DOWN !! That's the bad news. The good news is Rick Santorum hasn't become President yet. We don't need to fear he is going to mount a fruitless campaign to ban Porn. LMAO Saints and sinners. I'd dare to say we've all had our moments of unprotected sex. shadowcat and Clubber like to poke at me sometimes for the 2 times I had unprotected sex with a truly fine brunette at shadowcat's ATF club. To my knowledge, I haven't picked up any dread disease from those great sexual encounters, and no, shadowcat, I can guarantee that I'm not the father of her child. I wish I had a dollar for all the times she had sex on a daily basis at that club. A paternity suit on her behalf would be pointless and a waste of time of money on everyone's behalf. Back to the subject, I agree unprotected sex is risky, but so is life. I ski, I've skiied several of the world's best ski resorts over the years. I've taken plenty of risks there in abominable weather, I used to jump off cliffs, waaaaaaaaaaaaay up on the mountain. I've never broken any bones. I've had incredibly scary falls along the way. Once coming down the run at Whiteface in northern NY where the downhill was staged for the 1984 Olympics (a fine, fine, run) I came off a rise, lost a ski in mid-air, thought I was going to die at the extreme speed I was at, didn't panic, and landed successfully on one ski before I fell on purpose. Life is a risk, take precautions as needed. Enjoy life, it may be your only one.
Been there. My ATF and I were in a similar situation (at least based on what I know from what you post about your girl). We did BBFS for about a month before, to her credit, she told me we needed to start using protection again. Looking back, it was incredibly risky, but to be perfectly honest, I don't know if I would or would not do it again.
Stay as safe as you can, get tested, and keep an eye on her. If you start to believe she's not playing by the same rules, then it's time to put the raincoat back on.
#1 pab.......I can give this relgious deed lol ! Tell me george your sins and I will tell you how many hell marys lol
#2 all this talk about bbfs and I say hell the fuck yes ! George your fuckin kool ! I just creamed my stripper/girlfriend pussy good a few days ago and will be doing so in a few days
#3 all this talk about "J" and no one is going to toss out a juice joke ! Lol sorry george but it is funny !
Thanks, shadowcat for the confirmation :) Alucard, many of us know that we've been here before. It's an interesting concept, multi paths in multi lives.
Slip ups are bound to happen. I've had a few over the years and lived to tell the tale and I suspect that many others can say the same. Mine usually involved BBBJ turning very quickly into BBFS.
Now I'm not saying that I could not have prevented these slip ups from happening, but with alcohol muddling the big head and a mouth stimulating the little head, the big head's efforts to intervene were token at best.
Anyway, good luck and let us know what the folks at the clinic have to say. ;)
Revisiting this one, we kept up the bareback from that point on. And we both tested negative on all our tests during that time.
The downside is that now I'm spoiled. I haven't gone as far as BBFS with anyone else, but the blowjobs, with only a couple of exceptions, have been raw.
Martin Luther, (the figurative father of us Protestants) said, "Sin boldly, and count upon the grace of God." Basically, in the Protestant view all of you sinners (and I!) have a shot at heaven where the AC is functional. I assume that anyone can opt out.
Did any of you hear about the PL who had unprotected sex with an Oriental stripper? A week later his penis started to hurt and he went to his doctor, who said, "You have contracted the Hong Kong Dong Disease, and if we don't amputate quickly, you will die."
Understandably, our PL was upset and told his doc that he needed a second opinion. Reasoning that he needed a Chinese doc, he found one and made an appointment. The doc examined him and said, "Ahhh, you have the HDK disease." The PL cringed and told the doc what his doctor had said. The Chinese doc laughed and said, "He doesn't know what he's talking about." "Whew," thought the PL. "No, in just one more week, it fall off by itself."
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last commentYou're a sucker. She's using you and since she's a whore you should get tested.
No, but really...COME ON MAN!!!
On the other hand, she's still a normal person...LOL...like everyone else. So, there's a good chance you'll be fine. LOL! At least you got to enjoy sex the way it was meant to be enjoyed. Best of luck to you.
Is this "J" another customer? Is he someone MORE important to her than you? Is he a civilian male friend of hers that she may fall in love with?
If you nervous, get tested. If your pretty much 100% sure she is clean, you're OK.
As to her claim to be unable to conceive, is she on birth control of some sort or has she had a Hysterectomy or her tubes tied?
What happens between her & you & this "J" is the business of you three. I won't call you a sucker like tigerfan3 nor say your wrong to have had uncovered intercourse. That was & has been a decision made between you and this dancer. As to tigerfan3's claim that she is using you...Well only YOU know whether that is true or not.
Good luck with her. :)
...and just in time for bang69's "BBFS King compition"
@Alucard: Of course I don't know for a fact that she's clean. But, I have reason to believe she's been honest about her history, and the regular tests are indicative, if not absolute.
As for the pregnancy thing, I know she can't get pregnant from *me*. :) I've been shooting blanks for 15 years.
'J' is her current potential boyfriend. She's sweet on him and wants it to take up a notch.
Of *course* she's using me. Just like I'm using her.
Yeah, I'm a PL.
@pabloantonio: I'm still a little bedazzled by the whole thing. :) Of course, it's a bad idea, and if she goes through with her plans for J, we'll be going back to our usual safer routine. It just feels so much better.
@sinclair: Nah. He's right. I am a sucker, and she suckered me. We'll see what happens.
Of course, that is another way to avoid making Babies! :)
The SOs either don't know or don't care. Those that don't know are ignorant and those that don't care are pimps. Both of them are suckers.
But we TUSCL members know what dancers are and what they do. We're not suckers, just pathetic losers.
I got back in the saddle yesterday (fully covered) in Vancouver for my first 'oil change' since my 'slippage' event. Just isn't the same, is it, georg?
All the best, good tuscl buddy.
You may think of yourself as a pathetic loser pabloantonio. I DON't think of myself that way & I am NOT one!
"I've done this before, many years ago, and I'm still alive. Not that I recommend it. You make your choices and take your chances. Remember, a safe life is a boring life"
I'll bet there are a few persons here who identify with this statement.
WRT her new boyfriend, last week we were at a club where one of her dancer friends (who used to work at the club my ATF worked at) and the three of us were talking about him. My ATF revealed that she'd told J about me, that I was a friend that she'd met while dancing, and that I take her to dinner and sometimes a club, and "help her out" with some money when I do. At the very same instant, the dancer friend and I both said, "And he *believes* that?"
@Art: Well, the folks in hell are certainly going to be the more interesting group, eh?
The sinners are much more fun
In 50 years it won't matter
Go gmd
Being a long time "Sinner"(I'm NOT religious), I know that is very true! LMAO
Probably considerably less than that, for me. :)
Only one & a short one too VM.
Stay as safe as you can, get tested, and keep an eye on her. If you start to believe she's not playing by the same rules, then it's time to put the raincoat back on.
#2 all this talk about bbfs and I say hell the fuck yes ! George your fuckin kool ! I just creamed my stripper/girlfriend pussy good a few days ago and will be doing so in a few days
#3 all this talk about "J" and no one is going to toss out a juice joke ! Lol sorry george but it is funny !
The sinners are much more fun"
This^^just changed my life!
The sinners are much more fun"
You should be OK George,
You know that only the good die young!
@runrdude: If that's the case, then most of the posters on this forum are gonna live for freakin' ever. :)
@GMD - what, was there some doubt before?
Now I'm not saying that I could not have prevented these slip ups from happening, but with alcohol muddling the big head and a mouth stimulating the little head, the big head's efforts to intervene were token at best.
Anyway, good luck and let us know what the folks at the clinic have to say. ;)
The downside is that now I'm spoiled. I haven't gone as far as BBFS with anyone else, but the blowjobs, with only a couple of exceptions, have been raw.
How are you sure she can't get preggers?
Makes me think of a Law & Order SVU episode where a chick was blackmailing 10 guys claiming they were her kid's dad.
Did any of you hear about the PL who had unprotected sex with an Oriental stripper? A week later his penis started to hurt and he went to his doctor, who said, "You have contracted the Hong Kong Dong Disease, and if we don't amputate quickly, you will die."
Understandably, our PL was upset and told his doc that he needed a second opinion. Reasoning that he needed a Chinese doc, he found one and made an appointment. The doc examined him and said, "Ahhh, you have the HDK disease." The PL cringed and told the doc what his doctor had said. The Chinese doc laughed and said, "He doesn't know what he's talking about." "Whew," thought the PL. "No, in just one more week, it fall off by itself."