Why the hangup about privacy in the VIP??

FS and BJ goes on all the time at the club where I am VIP.

I like privacy in VIP as doing a stripper in VIP or CR saves me on motel bill.

SP, a place like Bogart's mosh pit takes some getting used to. My last time there I had two solicitations from other dancers when my song wrapped with my current gal (kind of obvious when you're just getting a regular dance.) One gal even tried to drop in on my lap with a cowboy strattle, as I had just finished with her friend. But the most surprising thing (to me anyways) I learned later is the elevated VIP is still below the height of the gals when they're on stage (be it dancing or finale time.) With that mirror on the far wall, they can readily tell what girls and guys are up there and for how long. Once you know this, iy's rather surprising how often they look in there. Most guys in the bar probably have no idea...

SP, some guys prefer it for a similar reason that they prefer dividers between the urinals.

When I saw the title, I thought it was going to be about lack of interruption. It's a buzzkill for me when some bouncer pokes his head in like some kinda @ssh0le voyeur.

Lee ---why is the bouncer always looking in -----at the clubs I frequent they nothing more than sell wristbands

CQ ---at many of the Hamilton clubs I have even taken part in a second round when my Fav is getting up and getting ready tp clean up - another dancer sometimes will come right over and want to know if you really want to finish it iff --or go for seconds! I well know the layout at Bogarts and am familiar with the issue of which you talk.

I guess those of us from Detroit are a little bit more to the "mosh" pits than those from more reserved areas

AS my gal gets completely naked while doing FS with me in CR, privacy is important.

I insist on privacy in a VIP area because when I go in it can become a sideshow if there is not enough privacy, and too many guys are pretty overt about their ogling. It's distracting and annoying.I get enough looky-lou's out in the open area - I sure as hell don't want that in the VIP area. But I can't speak for anyone else, since my circumstances are pretty unique.

shucks, guys, I guess I am just shy LMAO.. Hey, SP and CT, I am from Detroit also, I go to Bogarts and HVIII South also, I just prefer the privacy of the booths at Players or Flight Club or Penthouse. I'd like to say watching Nicole and 2 dogs going at it at HVIII South was the most outrageous thing, but that wouldn't be true. Some of the posts about HVIII South crack me up.

It's fairly obvious we all like privacy because extras happening in an open lap dance area is essentially sex in public

Strangest thing in VIP. 7,8,9 years ago at the (now burned down) Chameleon Club in ESL, the furnace shot craps one winter, so they moved the "apartment" to a storage room that was about 8' x 10' with 2 couches facing each other. I was in there one night with 3 other couples all doing FS in that 8x10 cubicle on those 2 couches.

Since I had been to the apartment there many times in the past when there was another couple in the bedroom or over by the big chair, it wasn't quite as intimidating as it might otherwise have been for me, but I certainly wouldn't call it a turn-on either. I might see it differently today...

Gator, Lord only knows what the Inkster Police actually enforce. Clubs there, well except for Flight(less) Club [I'm decidedly in favor of The Penthouse Club!], are open mosh pit areas. And then, there's the large mirror at Bogart's which just shows things off all the more...

Vince, I've never been to H8S. Bogart's and Henry's in Inkster is more than enough (did enjoy paying one cover for both places though--when once scene grew old, off to the other! From what I've read of H8S, it sounds more "potent" than the other two.

SP: That was all almost too fast for me. I was impressed though with some of the gals at Bogart's. The place looks like a dive yet had some cute girls when I was there. And when they have special food offerings, it's actually good! One of my visits happened to coincide with their "Christmas in July" party. Each dancer got an outfit and then they raffled off other giveaways for the customers. That was so-so; but the food that day was very good. Then there was Henry's door guy pitching "Come by on the __th [I forget the date] -- we're going to slaughter a pig and cook it." YUM! Actually, I had fled town by then. One could only wonder what H8S rolls out special for their customers???

Last Friday I had the 2 nastiest dancers in the club sitting with me. I knew that one knew what the other was doing.She will suck anybody. She is not the least discreet.I did get a BBBJ from her on Thu. But damn,I do like my privacy. Got FS from the other on Friday. We were supposed to do it in my hotel room but it never got that far. It was discreet but fucking is a lot easier to hide. It looks like a lap dance. A BBBJ is much harder to hide. A head bobbing up and down says blow job. A HJ is not easy to hide but most all the girls are doing them.So I just let it happen.HJ's are the messiest!

An observation about the more public VIP's, such as Bogart's or H8S in MI, the romper room activities seem to be restricted to BJ, HJ, cowgirl and on occasion reverse cowgirl. I've had dancers in the more public VIPs decline other positions (e.g., K9) that would have the customer standing as being too "indiscreet." I'm not sure if others have encountered the same restrictions. As shadowcat points out, a BJ is also pretty indiscreet so I'm a bit surprised that some dancers have restrictions on some positions based on discretion. By the way, I haven't encountered such restrictions in more private VIPs. Since K9 is one of my favorites (nothing like the view from behind and being in control), then I have a slight preference for the private VIP experience but who's to complain--its all great.

1) From time to time, Houston Dolls just turns into a "Who cares" type of bordello. Once in late 2004, as I went to a back room with a gal, there were people doing the deed everywhere. It was like a roman orgy.

2) Ricks (Houston) is now on the spot where The Century Club once stood (before it weas burned and rebuilt as Ricks). I had become sort of a regular. As I walked in about 11:30 one night, the manager was locking the door. Like HD, there was an orgy going on.

Having befriended porn stars and being there during a couple of shoots, it was no biggee to me to see people fucking everywhere.

Electro ----- anything goes in the VIP at H8S ----- especially during the day shift when the club is less visited and Greg the wristband seller is off playing with himself. K9, DATY, anything goes ------ the only issue occurs when the place gets busy and there aren't enough chairs to go around and people are on the floor in the messes from the last person in there

Player, gator, etc ----- wouldn't you rather save some(a whole lot of) money and have full service in a "mosh" pit, romper room, etc. versus the hundreds that some of you pay in the elite enclosed VIP rooms?

The women who work in those surroundings do not seem to care ----- they like the money that winds up in they purse or special compartment in their shoes to the dancers it is all about the money honey!

Why pay the club some exhorbitant amonout of cash for their surroundings? Let the women have the money!

lopaw,

Much to unique IMHO! :)

slickpeter, the clubs I go are dives for the most part and have lap dance booths for $30 a song(they call them VIP but no champagne happening). There are higher end clubs in the area with champagne rooms etc that I think are not worth it.

I am not an exhibitionist, but won't let open surroundings deter from chosen activities. I do resent the nosy bouncers, so avoid clubs that have those.

gator ---I agree ---most of the places I go are dives ---but part of the fun is watching the others without any booths. I let the high rollers go to the places that have individual booths --- my fav gets me out of there happy and satisfied for $40 to $50. There is no way i would ever pay any dancer $100 or more! I am not cheap - just prudent with my money

The worst club in the galaxy for lack of privacy has to be Bobby's in my hometown. All in the open, lots of bright lights, and at least 10 idiot pool players watching you. It took a while to get used to hanky panky in the open. But alas, nothing goes on there any longer, so the lack of privacy is a moot point.

I sometimes think it's kind of "cool" that other people can tell what I'm doing with a dancer, and that I can see what other people are doing. I don't really like "ogling" the other customers as they get service, and I don't really want to "be ogled," so I don't think it's an exhibitionism thing. Instead, I think it's just a relaxation thing. For me, sex SHOULD be about as prevalent and normal as dining. It isn't, in most of our culture; but in a strip club where the VIP room has very little privacy, you can relax and get a bit of that normalcy for a brief period of time. That's refreshing. I don't think I'd want "the whole club" just watching me -- it would be weird, just like sitting at a formal dining table eating an expensive meal while fifty people sat around in theater seating, not eating, just watching me eat. I wouldn't mind one or two looking on, as they also ate. But I don't want to be the main attraction, more for normalcy reasons, than anything else.

slickpeter, the only 2 guesses I have as to why the bouncer keeps checking in are (1) it's in uptight Atlanta and (2) the one that does it the most is (in the words of the dancer I was with most recently) an "@ssf*cker".

(Which was actually an interesting choice of words, as she said it while I was seated and she was face-down, hands on the floor, feet at my hips, grinding away. ;-)

She noted that he sucked at it, though, as he checked 4 times in an hour and never caught her once (and never has before).

Maybe he really "sucks" at catching her in an inappropriate act, because he actually could catch her if he wanted to, but he has decided not to be looking at the times that would matter. He may have chosen not to, because of a deal he has with her, with customers, with the management, even just something he chose to do all on his lonesome ...

I was pretty uncomfortable at Mons Venus, and that was just getting a nude lap dance. Maybe it's because the place was so busy that guys were sitting shoulder-to-shoulder on the couches. Doing FS in that situation would be a deal killer for me. No way I'd finish. I can't even pee if somebody's next to me. LOL

Book Guy, I see what you're saying, but not in this case. He genuinely did suck at his job.

Fair 'nuff ...