Comments by RonJax2 (page 8)

> Deporting 11 million people will be too hard for a competent administration to handle Trump is incompetent, but the right-wing extremists who he'll appoint won't be. And he won't have traditionally small-c conservative appointees who ignore his neo-fascist demands, as Kirsten Nielsen at DHS did in his first term. Don't believe me: read Project 2025. https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise#document/p165/a2570871 One of the authors of that document was Ken Cucinelli, who headed up CIS in Trump's first term. The project calls for the abolition of DHS, and consolidation and massive funding for ICE, CIS and others to be consolidated into "“a stand-alone border and immigration agency". If Trump is elected, he'll build the infrastructure needed to deport those 11 million immigrants, including the concentration camps it will require. Trump will also revoke the immigration status of hundreds of thousands of people who are in the country legally, under type T and U visas. Your favorite Cubana stripper is here on one of those Visas, she'll be disappeared into the night if Trump is elected.

> " I think many businesses employing low-skilled workers are still suffering from a lack of labor." >> Basic economics. Labor supply down, wages up. Do you favor depressing American wages? If you support an increased minimum wage or unionization, you are inconsistent. I'll agree that's basic economics, because your understanding of economics is fundamentally basic. First off, immigration creates its own demand for goods and services. It creates jobs for people who build houses, transport and sell food, and provide other basic services. Second, deporting 11 million immigrants, as the GOP plans, would probably indeed raise wages. It would also cause a massive increase in prices. This is known as "inflation" and it's bad. The bottom line is immigration creates better jobs for native born Americans. People who might only be able to find a job serving or cleaning have the opportunity to supervise and manage low skilled immigrant labor. And for the record, I do not support a minimum wage or more unionization, I'm staunch capitalist. > > "I expect as this campaign progresses, more Americans are going to realize the absolutely devastating economic and human rights consequences of GOP policy." > Hahaha on half your posts you say there are no undecided voters left and in half you say 3 more months of Orange Man Bad are going to cause a massive desertion from the GOP. You seem confused, which is it? You can't have both. My point is that the GOP's neo-fascist policy on immigration is going to motivate democrats to vote. I don't see the consistency here. Also, Orange Man IS FUCKING BAD. He's rapist. A friend of Epstein's. A business fraud. He once tear gassed peaceful protestors so he could hold up a bible. He tried to overthrow our government. He separated children from their parents and put them in cages. And he's going to deport your favorite cubana stripper once elected. You seem to forget that Trump has lost the GOP three elections in a row. He's never won a the popular vote in a nationwide race. Polls and betting odds have narrowed significantly over the past few days. Look at the trend on PredictIt: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7456/Who-will-win-the-2024-US-presidential-election Still think things are headed in your direction? It's a tight race.

It would be nice if there was a way to filter the discussions page to not include political discourse, and additionally if Founder were to start removing political posts from the front room. Finally, it would be nice if people who threatened violence here would get banned. That shit is going to get Founder in trouble one day.

> including guys who are embarrassed to disclose the actual dollar amount they tipped because they know it's way too high and they would hear about it in the comments on their reviews, so they go with the vague "generous tip" instead. I think @majorboobage hit the nail on the head here.

I find your description of the death of George Floyd to be appalling. For the record, he did not OD. The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicide and determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.” https://www.factcheck.org/2023/11/no-change-in-george-floyds-cause-of-death-despite-viral-false-claims/ I also have no idea what you're talking about with the 12 year old girl. Care to enlighten us by linking to your Fox News source on this? If you are concerned with Venezuelan immigration, you should be very concerned about Monday's Venezuelan election: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Venezuelan_presidential_election If socialist incumbent Maduro wins in that election, experts predict the Venezuelan migration crisis to reach new heights. https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/jul/25/venezuelan-exiles-election-maduro The US's current immigration laws include a special humanitarian exception for Venezuelan nationals: https://www.uscis.gov/CHNV, A loophole which House bill HR 2 would have closed, had it not been filibustered by Republican Senators. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-block-border-security-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607 GOP lawmakers have set us on track for a huge wave of migrants from Venezuela.

CJ, this is probably too big of an ask, but any chance you could stop using meta links for this content? I can't see anything on insta personally. And also every time you use an insta link here meta knows who clicks on it, and which site (TUSCL) referred them.

@puddy it's weird to me that when you articulate your own personal positions, they seem to be in line with a typical center left democrat office holder. Like your personal opinions on health care and immigration are pretty lockstep with any member of the Blue Dogs in Congress. The GOP does not want to work at the margins, they want to eliminate Obamacare entirely (which would leave millions without insurance.)

@motorhead > Where’s the connection between MAGA and religion? White evangelicals are the biggest core of Trump's base. In 2020 evangelicals prefer Trump 8 to 10 over Biden. https://apnews.com/article/trump-christian-evangelicals-conservatives-2024-election-43f25118c133170c77786daf316821c3 > Trump certainly doesn’t seem like a religious person I agree, and it doesn't make sense to me either, that a thrice-married philanderer and sex offender with ties to Epstein would be the preference of religious voters. And yet, that's the case. Here's a quote from the AP article I linked from an evangelical pastor: > “We’ve all come from sinning. Jesus sat with sinners, so he’s going to sit with Trump,” Vaughn said. “It’s not about where Trump came from, it’s about where he’s going and where he’s trying to take us.” No doubt where Trump will take is further erosion of abortion rights and other individual liberties that religious conservatives oppose. And of course your favorite Latina stripper being deported.

> The "universal" systems are extremely different from one another and all have a private component, which puts them to the right of Harris. If Harris runs on universal health care, I will buy you a VIP session at a club of your choice Puddy. That issue, in America, died with Bernie Sanders' campaign. She's going to run on improving healthcare the margins. Leveraging medicare to get lower prescription prices for seniors, as Biden has done. Getting rid of pre-condition eligibility. Filing in the small gaps of people who are uninsured. Ensuring the marketplace remains competitive.

> I'll look that up later. Or you could just admit that you were grossly misinformed, but whatever. > Surely you didn't notice the literal spike in crossings the month Biden got elected? Gosh, was anything happening at the time Biden took over that was causing a massive change to global migration patterns? Can you think of anything? At least you acknowledge that Biden has done something about the border. (And I'll note, for the record, that I disapprove of Biden's policy - I think many businesses employing low-skilled workers are still suffering from a lack of labor. We need more immigrants, not less.) > Republicans are far more trusted on the border and it isn't even close. Planks one and two of the GOP party platform are: 1. SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION 2. CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY I expect as this campaign progresses, more Americans are going to realize the absolutely devastating economic and human rights consequences of GOP policy.

I've asked Puddy this question before and he won't answer. It seems like to Puddy, socialism is you criticize dear leader. But let's see if he can articulate in this context what he means.

Damn, I wish I lived close enough to pull off a last minute trip like this. I hope you have a blast dude!

> Meanwhile Democrats scuttled this one when it wasn't politically convenient. Are you a fucking idiot or being intentionally obtuse? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME BILL. The bill you linked, HR 2, passed in the house and was fillabustered in the Senate. It's the same fucking bill the NBC news link I posted refers to. See the full history of the bill here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/2/all-actions Republicans have no one to blame but themselves (and Trump) for scuttling this immigration reform.

No, this doesn't end the drug trade, just the reign of terror of the Sinaloa cartel. Just read some interesting reporting from the NY Times. By their account, it was El Chapo's sun, Guzman López who lured El Mayo accross the border. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/world/americas/mexico-cartel-ismael-zambada-garcia-joaquin-guzman-lopez.html > Mr. Guzmán López had persuaded Mr. Zambada García to join him on the flight by saying they were going to look at real estate, officials said, but the plane instead headed north across the border. ... > According to some U.S. officials, Joaquin Guzmán López was trying to help his brother Ovidio, who was already in U.S. custody, when he invited Mr. Zambada García onto the plane.

>> "She's going to attempt to make her campaign appealing to a broad and diverse coalition of voters" > Do you think voters don't notice what else they do? My contention is that the only people who give a fuck that she appeared with RuPaul are probably bigots who aren't going to vote Democratic. I don't think your average dem-leaning voter who is on the fence about voting or not in PA is going to care one bit about such an appearance. But by all means keep trying to label Kamala as an extremist. Extremism is an issue democrats win 3:1 on.

We took two of the world's biggest narcoterrorists into custody without firing a shot. That sounds like an achievement to me. I can't wait for Narcos: Mexico season IV where they explain how that went down. (Again, WTF were theses guys even doing in El Paso?)

> Your posts aren’t going to change anybody’s mind what they think about the former President You're right. There are fucking zero "undecided voters" in this election. People have made up their mind on Trump. More than half the country hates him. No one is changing their mind on Trump. This election will be about turnout. It will be decided by Trump-hating republicans who either stay home or hold their noses and vote for Trump. It will be decided by apathetic democratic voters, again based on whether they stay home or register and go to the ballot box. Both of those voters are persuadable in a sense - you can persuade them to vote or not. Will constant reminders that Trump wants to "grab 'em by the pussy" be effective at motivating either of those groups? I think it will be.

> There was one border security bill that would have impeded the flow and the Democrats killed it. You mean this Border Security bill that nearly every single GOP Senator voted filibustered? https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-block-border-security-bill-campaign-border-chaos-rcna153607 Or are you talking about a different bill and if so can you link? > By the way I don't do CFs. Well, say goodbye to all your new favorites too, because the stripper population of the US will be decimated if Trump is elected. I fear too for my ability to travel so easily to Tijuana, I don't imagine Mexico's government is going to continue to let Americans through once Trump succeeds in SEALING THE BORDER.

Also, let me let you in on a secret Puddy. RuPaul's show will not be the only show she appears on. She's going to make appearances on a shit ton of different shows, and do campaign stops at tons of places, including churches in the blue wall. She's going to attempt to make her campaign appealing to a broad and diverse coalition of voters. This is a tactic known as: "Running a Political Campaign".

Yesterday you were complaining about the young black men she put in prison. Today you’re calling her the most liberal member of the senate. Honestly I can’t even tell which straw man of Harris you’re trying to shoot at. It’s like you don’t even know anything about the candidate you vehemently oppose.

Your “petty ideas” are pretty because you’re basically describing Biden-Harris policy with addition of a remittance tax which no country is going to pay. And Remain in Mexico only works with Mexico’s close cooperation, and it’s problematic because most immigrants entering at our southern border aren’t even Mexican. And your ideas are quite irrelevant because the party you support wants to implement the largest deportation operation in American history. They want to build a wall. They want to shut down some of the largest border crossings in the world, with one of our biggest trading partners. It would be an economic nightmare and human rights catastrophe. Say good bye to your CF and hello to concentration camps within our borders.

Let’s also remember your first comment to me in this thread was to call me a “liberal autistic troll”, so reread your Sowell quote again and maybe try to have some damn self awareness

If RuPaul was her running mate THAT would be a move to the left. But merely appearing on the show, no I don’t think your average PA factory worker is going to care about that.

What ideas am I denigrating and demonizing? I am literally quoting the GOP party platform.

LG is on my list for my next visit. Thanks for the report