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5 years ago
@Ishmael welcome to the club!
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5 years ago
@PinkSugarDoll Absolutely agreed, I always try to mention that I'm waiting on someone else because it's always true if I don't want a dance with someone. That's why early during the encounter I mentioned...
"Then she asks what brings me into the club. I turn to her and say I came to see as usual then bury my nose in my phone again."
^ FYI it was a typo but it was supposed to read "...I came to see *my ATF DS* as usual..."
She clearly heard it and acknowledged it too, but she still sat there for whatever reason.
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5 years ago
It's a pretty simple formula for me. Go to see my hot fave(s). Lather. Rinse. Repeat. (Then on occasion seek another fave.)
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5 years ago
"Really? I had the impression that kind of stuff would be considered higher mileage there. And something like half the customers at Sunset didn’t bother touching. (Despite bouncers being totally cool with that behavior) And most of the customers who touched asked permission ahead of time."
^ @nicespice Yes. Really. And I don't consider myself lucky in the mileage that I get. In my experience that is my average. Also I know there's a higher level out here than what I get myself because I compare my notes with my fellow local PLs and I have personally stopped strippers from trying to do more to me.
To me what you experienced at Sunset was the low side of average. And over the last seven years going there I have been with about ten different dancers and have gotten that same mileage - heavy two way, no touching pussy. Same thing at numerous other clubs out here.
LOL the only other logical explanation is that my dashing good looks gets me better mileage than most. 😝
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5 years ago
@blah I see strippers hop clubs here all the time, but I don't think they consider it exhausting. It's a perk! There are always options out here for both PLs and strippers which is a plus.
Note also that I've seen strippers stay loyal to a club too.
I think Portland is a good city for strippers overall. There's less pressure to need to compete with extras and there's almost always a club you can work at. Plus the hustle is low and the business is consistent. Strip clubs are a normal everyday part of the community here.
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5 years ago
As far as mileage out here it's been the same over the years. On average it's two way contact with no touching pussy. It's fairly high, though. Stick shifting is common and there's always a lot of pussy on crotch grinding. With the exception of a few one-way contact clubs that enforce it, this is the Portland standard mileage.
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5 years ago
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rickduganVerified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
I am an extreme regular for this very reason. As one, I can focus my spending on just my fave(s). At most I'll spend $5 on tipping other dancers and then another $5 on my drink (a soda) with bartender tip, and then the rest goes to my fave who I have already negotiated a low per dance rate which comes to $30/dance including tip. Then I get 2-4 dances with her on average. This is just about the minimum spending I do which allows me to have more frequent visits to a fave rather than ones to random strippers at a higher dance rate without guarantee of a good time. So the downside for me is I have to be OK with just a few strippers, which I am. I have a fave at at least two clubs for the variety.
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5 years ago
Out here in Portland it ebbs and flows. Where one club seems to get more dead, another club gets busier. I don't see an overall trend one way or another. And I've been an active clubber for years now, with the exception of only the last few months. I've been a regular to about three clubs with no discernable trend and also I have the same observation at at least half a dozen other clubs I've only been to a handful of time. For every club that I see close down, a new one opens up.
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5 years ago
@rickdugan by those examples I'm just saying that I get a free high (when I feel like it) and I have less wait time on my ATF DS because they go and tell her when I'm there, that's all. Besides, they're not all just shamus, butterfaces, and pregos.
Also I took no grief about white knuckling because it wasn't that at all, as explained as best possible. But more power to you if that's how you want to leave it though.
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5 years ago
@EndlessSummer no doubt TUSCL has a local benefit. I would be using it to PM with my faves out here because being married I definitely don't exchange my personal number with strippers. But my ATF DS has other social media that I can follow for her schedule and for that aforementioned fave I just call the club.
And specifically with TUSCL for me, I was able to meet nicespice through it which was to our mutual benefit. As soon as I saw her first pic I instantly wanted to meet up with her. Then over time she got out here and it was easy to exchange PMs with her. And through those PMs we talked local clubs, personal limits, dance rates, general expectations, and specific times to meet up - all before even meeting! It made everything about meeting up with a stripper I want super efficient and with no surprises. Through TUSCL I met up with a unicorn stripper at one of my regular clubs at the exact times that I wanted and for as long as I wanted. With zero hassles.
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5 years ago
@Nidan I get my variety by having a different fave at another completely different club.
And I'm a shark about going after a stripper I want. It's great when she comes up to me anyway by coincidence, but it also doesn't matter. As soon as I see her, I'm going over to her to reserve the next available time with her.
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5 years ago
@rickdugan and as nicespice and I are saying, if you pull that a-hole type of move in a small Portland club, and you do it to more than one dancer at the same club, the word about you will get out and you will not have a good reputation.
And to your point, it won't end up mattering to the strippers that you want because they will get both your money and good treatment by you. And also it's true that I could be that way too, because my ATF DS and I get along fine and she's getting my money regardless of how the other dancers see me.
But seriously, it doesn't work in one's favor to be that way for the little things. For example in that small club almost all the strippers that see me regularly will do stuff like go tell my ATF DS that I've arrived or they will invite me to go smoke some weed with them. If I were to be a dismissive a-hole I would not get those favors.
Also FWIW that stripper that sat there in silence with me was a total butterface. LOL her body was banging too.
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5 years ago
@rickdugan I never had issue with your approach. I just had issue with the assumptions that you made about me to prove it.
And thanks for your follow up because what you just said isn't being the "dismissive a-hole" to me. It's typically how one should approach an aggressive dancer as soon as she starts wasting your time. (In my case she just wasn't wasting my time at that given moment.)
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5 years ago
Bada Bing, bada boom, in da back room.
(The owner patron's creed.)
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5 years ago
LMAO nicespice you're just too aggressive to handle out here. Mileage too! 😂😂😂
(Notwithstanding SirLap, of course. 🍆🦄🤗)
Just to add to your point, a while back at the same club, I went in and my ATF DS was a no-show. I decided to finish my drink and an aggressive stripper that was on good terms with the both of us gets the idea in her head that I'm there visiting behind my ATF DS's back. So she then starts getting real aggressive with me and just won't leave me alone even though she's seen me exclusively with ATF DS hundreds of times. And I've never asked for a dance with her except once at a different club. So anyway I ended up cutting her off by saying "Damn, you're thirsty." She stomped off in anger, and OMFG did it get back to my ATF DS eventually. Luckily she knows both of us and that the other stripper is shameless but they are still friends. But still we had to have a conversation about it which then led to me and the other stripper making up to each other. I told her it was bad of me to call her thirsty (LOL she was, though) and she knew she should respect my loyalty to ATF DS.
If we hadn't already been mutual friends ITC, I would have had a bad rep with all the dancers from that point forward.
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5 years ago
@rickdugan I totally get your perspective. And trust me in that there have been times when I've been a total dismissive a-hole so as not to miss an opportunity. And I know and have experienced the aggressive stripper type.
The one thing is, that might make our situations different, though, is that I'm a regular at this club. I'm not known at all as an a-hole (because I'm just not...most of the time) so I'm not going to create a bad scene if I don't need to. At a club I've never been to and won't be returning to for a while, I certainly would take more of an approach like you mentioned.
And thanks for sharing your approach too! 👍
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5 years ago
"if there are other strippers or the bartender that I know well, absolutely I'll pull them into the uncomfortable silence to save me from it if they are nearby."
^ @rickdugan FYI by this statement all I meant is that I'll simply start having a conversation with them instead of the stripper. Why, because I like having conversations with people I want to have conversations with.
It has nothing to do with not being a natural conversationalist with women or fearing confrontation, like you incorrectly assume about me.
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5 years ago
"But c'mon now. I stand by my original statement regarding fear of confrontation and I don't buy the rationalizations that were provided in response."
^ @rickdugan LMAO feel free to have your opinion but all I can say is that you're wrong because you are simply misinterpreting what I'm saying and using things to rationalize them in your own way. It's simple. If I don't want to have a conversation with someone, I don't. But feel free to think otherwise based on misinterpreting what I'm saying.
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5 years ago
@rickdugan I totally agree in that I'll never let a fave or a stripper I want pass by. I just take a different approach than you. I control my space in a different way, that's all. But I've been at this game a while and I never lose out on being passive. LMAO that's rookie shit.
When I'm at a club waiting on a fave or desired stripper I am constantly scanning the room at frequent intervals. This is whether or not I'm on my phone or in a conversation or whatever. And then seeing the stripper I want is my cue to just take action and I do. As per my story above, as I was sitting there with this other stripper in silence, I saw my ATF DS come out of the dressing room and immediately gestured for her to come over and separated from the other stripper by a seat so my ATF DS could sit between us. There was no need to shoo the other stripper away or anything. She got the hint and moved away. Again, this is just a different approach than you would advise, but I got the same result: my stripper as soon as I saw her.
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5 years ago
... She smokes weed with you
... She buys you a drink (just because)
... She gives you a massage
... She lets you take a few pics of her
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5 years ago
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founderslip a dollar in her g-string for me
Let's take this discussion to the Dr. Phil Show. It's clearly the only solution.
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5 years ago
It might not have been an orgasm. Some women are more naturally wet than others. Also it might have been just after she did a FS extra.
At a former club where my ATF DS worked there was a stripper that was known as an extras girl and a backpage.com escort. One time after she was doing a lot of private dances, I went to the stage and watched her. As she danced I noticed lube dripping out of her pussy. No way it was pussy cream. It was clear like lube. I tipped and walked away because I didn't want that dripping on me from a stage grind.
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5 years ago
@EndlessSummer As a resource and marketing tool, I think this site is great for a travelling stripper. For local strippers and their regulars, there are already all kinds of social media and their mobile phones to stay in touch. But for a travelling stripper that wants to promote herself someplace new, I don't know of a better resource than TUSCL.
And absolutely if you decide to check out Portland I will help you with what I know. I won't even charge a commish. Ask nicespice. 😝
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5 years ago
@EndlessSummer if there are other strippers or the bartender that I know well, absolutely I'll pull them into the uncomfortable silence to save me from it if they are nearby.
One of my MOs is to tip the bartender and the other strippers at the stage, even though I'm never going to get a dance with some. As a regular the bartender and said strippers end up getting to know me and have my back whenever they see me. At my club(s) the bartender has already poured my drink before I even get to the bar, and the strippers that know me always come up to say hi and then will go get my ATF DS for me if she's in the back. Small tips go a long way...
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5 years ago
^ @EndlessSummer Despite being in my 40s, I'll never grow up. That's with the exception of one part of me that tends to grow up on occasion. But then I'll regress in said spot too. It's a vicious cycle. 😁
My All American Stripper does not use TUSCL from what I can tell. I'd definitely be less candid about her if she did. But I wouldn't mind either. She and I would have fun on here.