The Owner Patron

^ *go to the stage and tip*

Never seen an owner.

When one club owner had made changes because he wanted his main club to become a copycat Palazio, the owner was (From what I saw) hanging out there nearly every night at that time I remember. (Around last March-April)

There was one particular table he would sit at, for most of that time.

@nicespice did he ever go to the stage and tip? Or interact with the dancers in any way?

At my old favorite club, when the original owner was there, he would get lapdances. Many of the dancers thought that was weird. It must have been real awkward as well.

I've seen it. At least the drinking and getting some dancer action. Tipping not so much.

I've heard from several dancers at the same club that one of the owners had favorites that he would take to his office, smoke pot with them and then "pay" them for sex. The dancers I heard it from admitted that they had done it.

In any other industry, it would be perfectly normal for an owner to sit, observe, and interact with employees and customers to ensure the highest quality of services and experience. I can even understand him tipping dancers on stage if they were performing extra well, or if no one else was tipping on a good performance. Even lap dances, while customarily an avenue for mileage or extras, or an important part of the customer experience that he needs to ensure are done well and within the boundaries of any local ordinances .

It seems creepy because of the inherently sexual nature of the business. The owner-patron role can easily be corrupted into harassment and coercion. The owner has to be careful to remain appropriate and professional at all times. Its a fine line tonwalk between a quality check and taking advantage of employees. Hiring a mystery shopper is another avenue the owner could consider.

I volunteer to be the mystery shopper...

No, jascoi, it would have to be someone reputable and trustworthy.

Of course, that rules out our community in its entirety.

I've seen it a couple of times over the years and it invariably makes for a weird scene. The girls just don't behave the same as they would if the owner were someplace else. At the very least they are more self conscious and defensive.

I definitely saw this at a club I visited while traveling. I was sitting at the bar enjoying a drink and some company when the bartender suddenly makes crow noises "Ca-CAW! Ca-CAW!" I noticed the dancers got glum looks on their faces, so I asked what's going on. The dancer I was with said the bartender had spotted the owner's vehicle pulling into the parking lot and that was her signal to let everyone know he was about to come in. He comes in and orders drinks from the bartender who I never saw him tip. Then he goes and flirts with and gropes the dancers while they're on stage without tipping them. I could understand why they didn't like the guy.

^ LMAO the crow call sign is fucking hilarious.

I have seen what amounts to the opposite. The girls suddenly turn the floor mileage down from 10/10 to about a 4 and no one goes to VIP. Reason? The owner was there and he "officially" frowned upon the activities that were making him rich.

Forgot to add that once he left the girls were making up for lost time and revenue.

I was watching my ATF DS on stage once and the owner at the time, who knew me as a regular, sat down next to me and proceeded to tip her but on my behalf. And he was dropping one after one on the order of $20. And since I just want to be solo at the club and enjoy my 1:1 time with my ATF DS, it got awkward for me even though the owner and I were cool with each other. He was just trying to have a good time and entertain me but it put me off as weird. I ended up getting up and saying that I had to go use the restroom to disengage.

goldmongerATL - I've seen that too. The bouncers were warning the dancers and keeping a keen eye out until he left. Even had them tap me on the shoulder as soon as he came in.

seems that some owners just don’t know what they own.

@nicespice, that wouldn't happen to a particular ATX club that decided to expand their VIP and raise their prices about that time, would it?

It'd be hard to ID the owner when traveling but at one of my old spots you would see the owner at the bar watching a game drinking a beer. Never seen him partake in the festivities of LD's and VIP's that would be an odd sight.

@sirlap No he didn’t tip. And he was sitting near one of the stages too. He would just hang out and do his thing. Maybe occasionally circulate the room because he wanted to enforce lower floor dance mileage. Which I hated because it was an extras club and most of the customers knew that, and of course there was no crack downs on that behavior—so I *really* didn’t want to try to sell cabanas there. So it got even harder to just find customers who weren’t extras hounds but just appreciated good lap dances on a couch (couches were taken away and dances became some on a less comfortable long bench—just like Palazio does it)

During that time, I couldn’t be bothered to get out on the floor until 11pm-midnight.

@Ferdinx lmao yes you know what club I’m talking about.

At one of my regular haunts, the owner like to monopolize a group of the most attractive dancers, either for himself or to impress his friends. He doesn't tip or pay them for their time, but it's implied that if they don't cooperate, things will be made difficult for them. His general attitude is that it's his club and he will do whatever the fuck he wants.

Tony Soprano always seemed to have all the 10's in that back room fucking him and his crew.

Bada Bing, bada boom, in da back room.

(The owner patron's creed.)

I used to see Alan Markovitz, owner of a number of Detroit strip clubs like Penthouse and Flight Club, fairly often in his clubs. He was not tipping dancers. He was observing and critiquing. He never looked happy. Dancers have told me that he would fire dancers on the spot if they did not meet his standards.

Can't say I've noticed - but I'm not a regular w.r.t. a specific club or dancer, in order to pick-up/be-informed on some of the inner-workings of the club

Club Fantasies ownership passed from Father to son. When father ran it, it was the number one club in Providence. The son had his favorite dancers and treated them special; he drank with them and his friends; he paid zero attention to customer service. The club is dead last in providence and will remain so, even though I don't see the chump any longer.

Besides Alan M in Detroit the owner of The Cadillac Lounge in Providence RI used come in all the time. After the Pink Palace (Cheaters) got busted for an under age girl turning tricks and the city clamped down opn all the clubs he stopped coming in an sold to a chain.