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3 years ago
LOL it's funny that Scrub thinks that because no one has announced it on these forums, it just can't be true. Like Papi said, she travels and has met a fair number of TUSCLers, she usually leaves it up to those members whether they want to announce it or not. Other than SLD, I remember there was another Oregon member who recounted some of his visits with Nicespice.
Or do we have to speak in Desertscrub speak: LISTEN, you fucking old BASTARD! People don't always wanna put every fucking morsel of their lives on this site. It's filled with fucking PARANOID SHITHEADS like you!!! And they'd rather not deal with the drama. So SHUT THE FUCK UP if you're not positive with your allegations about someone. You know that saying about ASSUMPTIONS?? Yeah, heed that advice DUMBFUCK!!!
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3 years ago
Then once I finished paying, the score actually dropped 30 points. That's where I've been ever since. The reason is cited as 'lack of installment loan'. Basically they rather you be in debt paying off something. Which I am, I pay ally other bills in a credit card. But since I currently don't have a car note it's like I'm being penalized from having the max score and sitting at 820. Which honestly is no different from an 850, I just liked seeing the perfect 850.
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3 years ago
I can attest that it doesn't take decade(s) of perfect credit to get in the 800 range. I've had credit since 18, and spent all my 20s basically fucking it up doing dumb shit. I didn't start getting responsible with it till about age 26. At that point it took about 7 years until I got into the 800 range. At 26 I was in the mid 600s.
Certain things I noticed though that I don't like. I bought a new car and had a 5 year car note. During the 3rd year of that note my score peaked at 850 and stayed all the way until I finished paying the car off.
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3 years ago
Younger guys might not know, but guys who were fans of football 35 years old and up definitely do. And it doesn't matter if they don't know, they'll see this pretty chick then hit google to get the info on both of them.
Myself I didn't know who Skyler was, but like Cashman said she looks like another one of the thousands of insta thots out there. Most of them have no objection to some high profile guy with a lot of money using into their DMs.
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3 years ago
^^^^ @SJG so do you see how your assumption was totally false? It's more of that projection that you're doing. Notice all the attributes you tried to apply to the Reddit forum are all things you've listed as problematic?
Closely moderated? Not even, I don't think I've seen a single removed post or any kind of warning from a moderator to any poster. Narrow topics? Well if only discussion regarding strip clubs is narrow, then sure. Luckily Reddit has a billion other threads to discuss other topics. A place where people don't make fun of LDKers? Nope, people still express disgust with it there. Which is no problem btw. A totally consumeristic vending machine approach? That's some term that you made up, that sounds quite ridiculous tbh.
Still, I'm glad there's far less trolls there. It makes it easier to talk about different topics.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG thanks for answering the questions. But you are mistaken in your assumption that I am putting the girls in strip clubs in a different category. All I said was, I don't go into a strip club intending to find a GF. Much like I don't head into a bank and intend to find a GF. Also like I don't head into Target looking for a GF. If I happen to connect with a girl in any of these places, then great! However, it isn't my purpose for going into any of those places.
I didn't say that a guy was delusional for trying to find a GF in the strip club. I said the ones who do often end up in heartbreak or get a strong dose of reality. The heartbreak comes from falling for a dancer who they've been spending money on. The patron starts developing feelings, but the dancer does not. She doesn't outright tell them her true feelings, because she wants to keep making money. But eventually she has to, especially if the patron starts becoming too difficult. I mean right here on TUSCL we've seen story after story of guys who fell for a dancer, or tried to start something with a dancer outside the club. Most times, the story doesn't end favorably for the patron.
As for your definition of what a strip club is, I think it's unfair of you to compare US strip clubs to foreign strip clubs. Hong Kong TJ and the strip club in Brazil you mentioned, those aren't true strip clubs, they are brothels. The rest of what you mentioned revolves around your love of kissing, which doesn't sound like a good way to classify a real strip club IMO.
Nontheless, thanks for your responses.
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3 years ago
Over on Reddit there was a thread that asked "how much debt do you have?". I was shocked by the high numbers I was seeing. For a lot of them it was student loan debt and they flat out said since they can't afford to pay it off with the interest piling up they would just take that debt to the grave with them.
Which had me wondering, what happens in that situation? If no one else signed on the loan with them, and if the person's estate left behind isn't enough to offset the remaining balance, what happens with all that money owed?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG once again, point out exactly what comments made you think that. Because as of now you're not backing up your thoughts with evidence.
And you STILL haven't answered the question about what a strip club is to you. Since the clubs that offer dances and extras are just clip joints to you.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@Drew SLD is a user that went by the handle Sirlapdancealot. We call him SLD for short.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG so I saw you accuse Drew of this earlier, and now you're accusing me of it. Show me anywhere in my posts that demonstrates that I look down on dancers. Also show me how I'm dividing women into two categories.
I believe you pulled that 'two categories' thing out of thin air. Just like how the entire second paragraph of your last post looks to be you listing what you believe to be true as a fact. Where is your proof that 'Usually if they go to the club it will be for FS, and usually with an extensive makeout session to get the girl opened up, and I think most of the time they will come to be seeing a girl outside." I mean come on dude, that entire quote is always YOUR mantra of how you want a strip club visit to go. Now all of a sudden that what most single guys who goes to strip clubs does??!! In a lot of clubs in the US what you wrote for a typical single guy visit isn't even possible to take place.
Anyhow, you're straying away from what I was originally asking you and starting to just assume what every single guy wants. And you never even answered my question of what you believe a strip club is, since you call clubs that sells dances and extras clip joints.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG ok you're assuming what you think the single guy wants. YOU would rather go into the club or somewhere else and try to start a relationship. And to your point, a lot of guys actually DO try to get something going with the dancer outside of the club. We've seen the stories both here and other forums, sadly a lot of them end in heartbreak and a dose of reality for the patron.
But plenty of guys are also content with just getting dances. Once again, nothing wrong with that IMO.
You call a club where girls sell dances and sometimes extras a clip joint? What do you consider a strip club then?
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3 years ago
@Icee you have the cash to buy a house outright? What about the car note for your Hellcat? Or did you pay $70K in cash up front?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG posted "A clip joint sells fantasy rather than reality. And the women learn to do what they do via dissociation. The money is real good, so they go along with it and learn it.
But if you go along with them you are being played, and played for a chump.
I am not saying you are doing anything immoral, but you are letting yourself be boxed into an absurd situation where your wallet is being hoovered out for nothing.
With most of the guys who do this it is simply because they are unwilling to keep their marriage vows. So they don't want any new woman calling them up on the phone and hanging around them"
@SJG you keep defaulting to this situation about a guy unwilling to keep his marriage vows when talking about buying dances. Not sure why you keep assuming that everyone who goes to the strip club is married. The way you keep doing this makes me think that SLD was correct in his assessment of you that you are projecting the things that caused your marriage to fail on everyone else.
What's your problem with the single guy who goes to the club just to buy dances and not try to pursue a relationship with dancers outside of the club? You keep saying they are boxed in to that. But if that's what the single guy wants, what is the problem? If he wanted to pursue a relationship with a dancer he would be free to. But he doesn't, he just wants dances and that's it. His prerogative, right? You say his wallet is being hoovered out for nothing. But like Drew pointed out, it's not for nothing. That patron has a lot of fun via dances/extras for the money that he spends. Seems it's not YOUR idea of fun, but for that patron it is.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
So let's assume then that it's a single guy going to the club. Are you then saying a single guy looking for just dances in the club shows low integrity, and a guy looking to persue a relationship with a dancer in the club shows high integrity?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
"Strip clubs are something to visit and learn from, but not to patronize regularly. No reason to"
You realize that's an OPINION, right?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG I wasn't talking about LDK82 in particular. I'm just speaking about men who go into the club that don't have the intention of trying to get the dancers outside the club. You said in regards to LDK82 that you think he is kind of a chump to get his wallet hoovered out by women he doesn't want to be bedding regularly. Well you probably just described 90% of the men on this forum, not just LDK82. It is what it is, I bet 80% of men on this forum also have similar views regarding you. But whatever.
So what you're saying is that you think all men who go into strip clubs that don't have intentions on seeing the dancers regularly outside are chumps?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
@SJG ok you said to Drew earlier that he doesn't wish to know the women in strip clubs. And because of that, buying dances and buying extras arise. And you don't go along with any of those concepts.
That leads me to believe that you think only men who wish to get to know all the dancers on some personal level belong in the strip club. Since you don't go along with the concept of just buying dances or extras. Is that correct?
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
So basically SJG you think that any guy that doesn't want to date the dancers has no place in a club?
And I think your theory of any woman can be gotten by any man is kind of unrealistic. Like a 65 year old man goes into the club and wishes to date a 24 year old dancer. Not gonna even talk about differences in personality, views, or anything like that yet. Do you really think it's feasible for a 65 year old man to go into a club and attempt to date a 24 year old?
From reading your posts about clubs you seem to berate any guy that goes into the club and isn't looking for a long term thing with a dancer. I know that's what YOU'RE looking for, but so you honestly believe that is the only use for a strip club?
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3 years ago
Why does that club on the other side of the country get all the damn fine women????
Congratulations to you, and congrats to the lucky fucking patrons of that place.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
I'm kind of shocked at Drew trying to have a reasonable conversation with SJG. Drew you've been here since 2018 so surely you've gotta be familiar with how SJG operates, right?
You've explained perfectly why you have no problem with the strip club setup and how it works for you. You get what you want and the dancer gets what she wants. However SJG will now try to convince you that you don't want that. Then he'll explain at length all this stuff that you should be doing, which is what HE wants to do in the club. Which is why he's always being told to "stop telling people they're having fun wrong". But he'll never stop.
Unfortunately the San Jose public library is now closed so his next response won't be until they open tomorrow at noon. But then he'll continue his brigade of how you're having fun wrong. Should be entertaining.
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3 years ago
Hypocritical comment by Icey. But shit, what else is new?
And Muddy it shows why Paul Drake left. Look how long it took you to notice. Dude stopped posting here a LONG time ago. Some fellow monger buddy you are.
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3 years ago
I don't know what to think after reading that. Have you ever been to a strip club before? Maybe you seemed like a newbie and she wasn't sure of you? Only thing I can think is, maybe she thought you were a cop or some kind of LE.
I'd say don't let that one experience taint your view of strip clubs. Try some other places, or hell even try this one again and get a different dancer. Cant see how it could go any worse.
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3 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
@Bharlem so you've never used Reddit? BTW it's a gigantic forum where they have subreddits for almost every topic under the sun. Not just sexwork. As a matter of fact, the anti sexwork subs are much bigger, sadly. Subs like 'femaledatingstrategy' pretty much downvote every sex worker that tries to speak honestly in there.
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3 years ago
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drewcareypnwnot the real drew carey, but I play him at strip clubs...
I'm wondering if you started this thread after the disagreement in that one Seattle review. The one where a few of us questioned why the reviewer connected dancer names to specific extra acts. I even tried to explain that it's an unofficial TUSCL no-no to connect dancer names to extras.
I think if you read enough discussion threads and reviews around here you can see that most folks don't have problems with extras, to the contrary we actually like them. We just don't like putting dancers on blast for performing them. Your buddy uncleseawill seems fucking incapable of understanding that, however. Goes in and on saying "that's how Seattle clubs are and everyone here knows it". Shit I bet Detroit, COI, and Miami clubs are more off the hook than Seattle clubs. Yet people in those regions for the most part when writing reviews know not to put the dancer on blast.
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3 years ago
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PutaTesterWest Coast. He who dies with the most memories wins.
^^^^CJ Kent, I understand looking at the glass as half full instead of half empty. But after reading the story, how could you not understand his disappointment? The entire purpose of the trip was to see the potential ATF. They had been in communication and she left him to believe that if he went down again they could have a TLN. The trip down there was just to spend time with her. He gets there, happens to see her on some fluke occurrence before their actual meet time. Then gets ONE last message where she all of sudden says some BS about not being able to see him unless she's at work??!! Why the fuck SHOULDN'T he be upset about that??!
It's not like he didn't try to make the best of it. He detailed right here how he tried to salvage the trip. But in the end, the time he had doesn't match up with what he could have possibly had with the potential ATF if their time mirrored what it was last time.